DefCon1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Quote A RUSSIAN BASE IN IRAN: A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE REGION Russia has announced its military presence in Iran for the first time since the end of World War II. 16.08.2016 Tu-22M3 Russian strategic bombers made their first flight from the base Hamedan in western Iran. The aircrafts attacked targets of the terrorist group "Islamic state" in Syria. Previously, Russian strategic aviation had been performing combat missions from the base of Mozdok in North Ossetia. Now the distance to the targets in Syria has been reduced by 60%. For the Syrian campaign, it means that Russian supersonic bombers will be able to bring a larger payload and at the same time carry out an increasing number of sorties. Accordingly, the intensity and effectiveness of the Russian air operations will increase significantly. Hmeymim airbase in Latakia (former civil airport) is not suitable for such heavy bombers. The Middle East: total coverage News agencies spread information that Russia and Iran have agreed on the deployment of Russian strategic bombers at the air base Hamedan on a long term basis. This information was confirmed by Iranian officials. Chairman of the Security Council of Iran Ali Shamkhani said that the Iranian side will provide its infrastructure for Russia to combat terrorism. Russian strategic bombers in Iran dramatically change the geopolitical situation in the Middle East. The combat range of the Tu-22M3 aircraft at supersonic speed is 1850 km and the maximum range is about 3000 km. This allows them to cover the whole of the Middle East. The area is now controlled by Russian aircraft includes Israel, Palestine, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, Egypt, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE, Yemen, Iran, the waters of the Persian Gulf. Within range are US military bases, all strategic places of Wahhabi monarchies of the Persian Gulf and the terrorist infrastructure in the region. The flight time to Riyadh is less than half an hour. The Tu-22M3 is designed to destroy large enemy military-industrial targets, centers of command and control, and communications, destroy buildings (including magazines) and units deep behind enemy lines. This aircraft can also effectively conduct aerial reconnaissance and engage in electronic warfare. The Tu22M3 is capable of carrying both conventional and nuclear weapons. The maximum carry load is 24,000 kg. Moreover, if Russia finds it necessary in a wartime situation, in agreement with Iran, can place better weapons at the air base in Iran, for example, the strategic missile carriers Tu-160, which are armed with atomic bombs and missiles with nuclear warheads. The combat radius of this aircraft is 7500 km. The Moscow-Tehran Axis Iran’s willingness to provide to Russia a military base Hamedan is a unique event in recent history of the state and evidence of a close strategic alliance between the two countries. This step links Russian geopolitics with Iran's interests in the region. There is no doubt that the Russian Aerospace Forces will protect the interests and security of both Russia and Iran. Iran strengthens its immunity against major opponents - the United States, Israel and Saudi Arabia, due to the Russian strategic presence. At the same time, Russia defends itself at a distance, moving the confrontation with the United States from Russia’s own border areas, closer to the marginal part of the Eurasian Rimland, and directly adjacent to the major US and British bases in the Persian Gulf (Bahrain, Oman, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates). Breakthrough Atlanticist blockade For Russia, this event is crucial. A "breakthrough to the warm seas" to the Mediterranean, Iran and India; this geopolitical expansion towards the south has been a major strategic imperative of Russian geopolitics since the XVIII century and the basic meaning of "the Great Game" from the Russian side. In contrast to her Atlanticist powers, Great Britain and the United States were trying to prevent full Russian access to the Middle East and the Persian Gulf. Russian strategic bombers in Hamedan mean a breaking of the Atlanticist blockade in this part of the Rimland. Russia now receives immediate access to the region and the possibility of a way to operate militarily in this area, to protect both its own interests and those of its allies. http://katehon.com/article/russian-base-iran-fundamental-change-balance-power-region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 if USA can have a Base in Germany why not Russia can have a base in Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, aeromotacanucks said: if USA can have a Base in Germany why not Russia can have a base in Iran? Am actually noticing that Iran is trying to protect its self interest and maybe its a signal that something bigger will be on the horizon. Russia will definitely protect Iran from attacks since one of their base is in Hamedan now. The Chinese and Russian ties with Iran are getting stronger every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aeromotacanucks Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, DefCon1 said: Am actually noticing that Iran is trying to protect its self interest and maybe its a signal that something bigger will be on the horizon. Russia will definitely protect Iran from attacks since one of their base is in Hamedan now. The Chinese and Russian ties with Iran are getting stronger every day. USA has military bases in Japan, SK, in many countries in Africa, Asia and Oceania... Russians have their rights too. as so as the Chineses. they can have their own military bases... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefCon1 Posted August 19, 2016 Author Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, aeromotacanucks said: USA has military bases in Japan, SK, in many countries in Africa, Asia and Oceania... Russians have their rights too. as so as the Chineses. they can have their own military bases... I know that, but its also used as a strategic position and will benefit Iran in many ways. It could be a deterrent from an Israel attack and allow for a much stronger Russian presence in the middle east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aeromotacanucks Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, DefCon1 said: I know that, but its also used as a strategic position and will benefit Iran in many ways. It could be a deterrent from an Israel attack and allow for a much stronger Russian presence in the middle east. honestly the world needs a balance. USA cannot pretend he owns the planet. USA will never fight Russia because everybody on earth knows what it means... so maybe it´s an evil thing but necessary. a balance, the MAD system. it´s scary but avoids one country taking all over the planet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantomex Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just another move on the chessboard. Russia and NATO/USA have been posturing for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Putin is tweaking the U.S.'s nose. I can't really blame him. That and it's easier for Russia to insert its influence over Syria if they have their military assets only 2 countries over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Good. The US had their chance to make amends. Repeatedly and instead extended a wilted and decidedly limp olive branch while siding with Israel and Bibi's "Acme Bomb drawing" There's no issue with this, it also effectively gives Russia and the rest of the big OPEC countries more control over Iranian oil. Imagine that. Dumping even more oil in to western markets further lowering the overall price. The US has Saudi interests, Russia now has Iranian. Tit for Tat comrade, deal with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 11 minutes ago, Warhippy said: Good. The US had their chance to make amends. Repeatedly and instead extended a wilted and decidedly limp olive branch while siding with Israel and Bibi's "Acme Bomb drawing" There's no issue with this, it also effectively gives Russia and the rest of the big OPEC countries more control over Iranian oil. Imagine that. Dumping even more oil in to western markets further lowering the overall price. The US has Saudi interests, Russia now has Iranian. Tit for Tat comrade, deal with it I almost forgot about that one! He must have been taking cues from Tea Party Republicans. Those nutjobs have come up with some doozies of their own over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Quote A RUSSIAN BASE IN IRAN: A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE REGION One base? 'Zo noze, something must be done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Eisenhower's farewell address. I know it's been posted before, but it's worth posting again every once in a while. Eisenhower warns the nation about the dangers of the military industrial complex. I've bookmarked it a few seconds before it starts (I think): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, aeromotacanucks said: honestly the world needs a balance. USA cannot pretend he owns the planet. USA will never fight Russia because everybody on earth knows what it means... so maybe it´s an evil thing but necessary. a balance, the MAD system. it´s scary but avoids one country taking all over the planet... I think what we'll be seeing eventually actually is the rest of the world gradually catching up. With huge populations in coutries like China, India, and Indonesia, the Asian economy's going to be where it's at and this whole debacle between USA and Russia will be a thing of the past as we start seeing multiple groups showing a lot of power. Alliances will likely be the true source of power. What's better than 1 powerful nation? How about a few powerful nations? However, they can also prove to be the most unstable sources of power as well. In the end, it'll be each country representing their own best interests and, if an alliance is proving to not work they could leave (ie Brexit but that's a whooooole different story that's still in the works). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The Lock said: I think what we'll be seeing eventually actually is the rest of the world gradually catching up. With huge populations in coutries like China, India, and Indonesia, the Asian economy's going to be where it's at and this whole debacle between USA and Russia will be a thing of the past as we start seeing multiple groups showing a lot of power. If those countries are smart, they won't bother. It's not worth wasting the resources. China is only building up because it wants to expand its borders south. India is in a perpetual conflict with Pakistan so if they start to build up and become that much more powerful, Pakistan will throw a fit and follow suit as well as continue to beef up their nuclear arsenal. Empire building isn't cheap and in this day and age, it's very wasteful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 if im states i cut ties with saudis as they have the worst human rights violations. the west needs to produce all its own oil and cease doing business with middle east in that regards. As for saudis and iran maybe a regime change proxie war can start fund a few mercenaries to fix the problem take out leader ship whixh would end any nuclear ambititions russia might get mad but what would they do not much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Just now, SabreFan1 said: If those countries are smart, they won't bother. It's not worth wasting the resources. China is only building up because it wants to expand its borders south. India is in a perpetual conflict with Pakistan so if they start to build up and become that much more powerful, Pakistan will throw a fit and follow suit as well as continue to beef up their nuclear arsenal. Empire building isn't cheap and in this day and age, it's very wasteful. You're talking about current events though. I'm talking 20, 30, 40 years from now. However, If you want to get into borders being the main "issue" for these countries not growing in power, the reasons you provided may just be the reasons why they DO grow in power. Take a look at the last 200 years of the US. All of the wars the US has been in. That's the reason why they have what they have today in terms of power. They've had border disputes, a civil war, overseas fighting. The same things have happened in Europe. Various wars have lead to alliances. Alliances are used to grow power. Perpetuals conflicts generally make nations build up resources and develop faster than ones that aren't in conflicts. While empire building isn't cheap, war creates goals and determination that often isn't there when everything's at peace. It's the harsh reality unfortunately. I'm not advocating war by any means. I'm just saying that when a nation has a reason, they work harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 1 minute ago, The Lock said: You're talking about current events though. I'm talking 20, 30, 40 years from now. However, If you want to get into borders being the main "issue" for these countries not growing in power, the reasons you provided may just be the reasons why they DO grow in power. Take a look at the last 200 years of the US. All of the wars the US has been in. That's the reason why they have what they have today in terms of power. They've had border disputes, a civil war, overseas fighting. The same things have happened in Europe. Various wars have lead to alliances. Alliances are used to grow power. Perpetuals conflicts generally make nations build up resources and develop faster than ones that aren't in conflicts. While empire building isn't cheap, war creates goals and determination that often isn't there when everything's at peace. It's the harsh reality unfortunately. I'm not advocating war by any means. I'm just saying that when a nation has a reason, they work harder. The only 2 countries that I can see trying to build another world empire by expanding their borders dramatically are Russia and China. The worrisome thing there is that they share a border. Three superpower empires all at one time. That would be a lousy future. Good thing that I may be old enough that I will never see the end result of that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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