abdemarco Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Scott Cullen, one of TSN's analytics writers, has posted his projected top 300 scorers for the upcoming season. His methodology: who knows? His list includes a few Canucks: #39, Daniel Sedin, 80 GP, 23 G, 38 A, 61 PTS #47, Henrik Sedin, 75 GP, 13 G, 45 A, 58 PTS #84, Loui Eriksson, 77 GP, 23 G, 29 A, 52 PTS #181, Bo Horvat, 75 GP, 18 G, 22 A, 40 PTS #239, Sven Baertschi, 70 GP, 14 G, 19 A, 33 PTS #244, Brandon Sutter, 74 GP, 17 G, 15 A, 32 PTS #278, Jannik Hansen, 72 GP, 14 G, 15 A, 29 PTS #286, Ben Hutton, 77 GP, 3 G, 26 A, 29 PTS Do you think his predictions are optimistic/realistic/pessimistic for these players? My initial reaction is that Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson and Hansen will all produce a bit more than listed, Hutton will not produce as much, and the others will fall around the predicted marks. Any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jägermeister Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I'd like to see Baer produce a little better than that, but all in all I feel like that is going to be pretty accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 9 minutes ago, abdemarco said: His methodology: who knows? Sims NHL17 then screenshots the stats page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Bo will get more then 40 points. Also that list will have both Sedins break 1000 points this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Kerr Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 The fact he has Henrik only playing 75 games already makes this a little fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BCNate Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 I think that he is pretty low in a lot of cases, not only with the Canucks players. I can see McDavid scoring 40+, and the leading rookie in this class will have 60+ (but not be Matthews). I can see the first 5 Canucks on the list scoring 10 more points apiece for sure. I can't think he put much analysis into projecting 300 players, probably just formula driven without much thought put into players situational changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 20 minutes ago, abdemarco said: Scott Cullen, one of TSN's analytics writers, has posted his projected top 300 scorers for the upcoming season. His methodology: who knows? His list includes a few Canucks: #39, Daniel Sedin, 80 GP, 23 G, 38 A, 61 PTS #47, Henrik Sedin, 75 GP, 13 G, 45 A, 58 PTS #84, Loui Eriksson, 77 GP, 23 G, 29 A, 52 PTS #181, Bo Horvat, 75 GP, 18 G, 22 A, 40 PTS #239, Sven Baertschi, 70 GP, 14 G, 19 A, 33 PTS #244, Brandon Sutter, 74 GP, 17 G, 15 A, 32 PTS #278, Jannik Hansen, 72 GP, 14 G, 15 A, 29 PTS #286, Ben Hutton, 77 GP, 3 G, 26 A, 29 PTS Do you think his predictions are optimistic/realistic/pessimistic for these players? My initial reaction is that Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson and Hansen will all produce a bit more than listed, Hutton will not produce as much, and the others will fall around the predicted marks. Any comments? Hank, Sutter, Hansen, and Hutton are all understandable. Daniel and Eriksson will both cross the 25 (or even 30) goal threshold, while Horvat will get 50-60 points this year. Baertschi should get more than 20 goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamJamIam Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Bo already shrugged off the sophomore slump in the first half of last year. I don't know why you would predict him to stagnate. Sven and Hutton are expected to get worse? I find that highly unlikely given what we saw as the year progressed. Jannick Hansen is expected to half his production this year? No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Scott Cullen is just one of many Torontrolls - media conspiring against the Canucks - everyone hates us, etc. But seriously, this is the guy playing the fool's game: The analyticzzzzz!! He's pretty much predicting regression across the board. I think all those guys modestly exceed those numbers, with perhaps the exception of Hutton (29 pts out of wouldn't be bad). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Scott Cullen wrote something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBrashear Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 lol, I love that he doesn't just predict points/goals but also GP. Awesome. He can predict injuries now I see... If Eriksson only hits 23 goals then there's a huge problem. There is no way anyone, including him, would find that acceptable. I think the expectation is a bare minimum of 30 goals for Eriksson, and the expectation is a bare minimum of 70 points for the Sedins if they are all healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Imo, this list largely plays it safe. The Sedins-Eriksson line should exceed expectations. But if we're going to do anything this season, we're going to need Bear, Sutter, Hansen, and Horvat to be 20 goal scorers. If we're not adding that goal scoring winger, what other options are there? I think it's completely fair to expect more from these guys. Giving Baertschi a goal of five more goals than last season isn't unreasonable. Expecting Hansen to equal last year will make him work harder to hit that goal. Giving Horvat a target of four more goals is doable. Sutter's primary goal should be first to stay healthy but with the expectation that he needs to hit totals similar to his last season with the Pens. At 28, that's achievable. The goals have to come from somewhere and Willie should be setting the bar higher with each of them from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 12 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said: lol, I love that he doesn't just predict points/goals but also GP. Awesome. He can predict injuries now I see... If Eriksson only hits 23 goals then there's a huge problem. There is no way anyone, including him, would find that acceptable. I think the expectation is a bare minimum of 30 goals for Eriksson, and the expectation is a bare minimum of 70 points for the Sedins if they are all healthy. he's using the baummerman92.5 luck analyzer to accurately foretell the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said: lol, I love that he doesn't just predict points/goals but also GP. Awesome. He can predict injuries now I see... If Eriksson only hits 23 goals then there's a huge problem. There is no way anyone, including him, would find that acceptable. I think the expectation is a bare minimum of 30 goals for Eriksson, and the expectation is a bare minimum of 70 points for the Sedins if they are all healthy. You need to lower your expectations a bit. Especially for eriksson. Guys only hit 30 goals twice and that's his bare minimum? Cmon man. Only 18 players had more than 30 goals last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Seriously?? Who cares about scott cullens predictions. Most of the members on this board knows what to expect (realistic point production) from our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shift-4 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 23 minutes ago, DonaldBrashear said: lol, I love that he doesn't just predict points/goals but also GP. Awesome. He can predict injuries now I see... If Eriksson only hits 23 goals then there's a huge problem. There is no way anyone, including him, would find that acceptable. I think the expectation is a bare minimum of 30 goals for Eriksson, and the expectation is a bare minimum of 70 points for the Sedins if they are all healthy. Or maybe he is suggesting Henrik will be a healthy scratch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laheys Liquor Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 1 hour ago, abdemarco said: Scott Cullen, one of TSN's analytics writers, has posted his projected top 300 scorers for the upcoming season. His methodology: who knows? His list includes a few Canucks: #39, Daniel Sedin, 80 GP, 23 G, 38 A, 61 PTS #47, Henrik Sedin, 75 GP, 13 G, 45 A, 58 PTS #84, Loui Eriksson, 77 GP, 23 G, 29 A, 52 PTS #181, Bo Horvat, 75 GP, 18 G, 22 A, 40 PTS #239, Sven Baertschi, 70 GP, 14 G, 19 A, 33 PTS #244, Brandon Sutter, 74 GP, 17 G, 15 A, 32 PTS #278, Jannik Hansen, 72 GP, 14 G, 15 A, 29 PTS #286, Ben Hutton, 77 GP, 3 G, 26 A, 29 PTS Do you think his predictions are optimistic/realistic/pessimistic for these players? My initial reaction is that Sedin, Sedin, Eriksson and Hansen will all produce a bit more than listed, Hutton will not produce as much, and the others will fall around the predicted marks. Any comments? I honestly believe the Sedins/Eriksson will be closer to a PPG pace this year. If these predictions were accurate, probably no chance we make the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 Cullen, much like Yost, is a twerp of the highest order, and has spent to much time with his disk stuck in a faulty hard drive. His adherence to the religion of analytics is just another blip on the radar of geeks doing their best to take over sports and lord some kind of authority over jocks. Demented and sad...but social. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonaldBrashear Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 25 minutes ago, Gooseberries said: You need to lower your expectations a bit. Especially for eriksson. Guys only hit 30 goals twice and that's his bare minimum? Cmon man. Only 18 players had more than 30 goals last season. My expectations are fine. You should raise yours. When as Eriksson ever played with guys that are the caliber of Sedins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Ward Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 This list is ridiculous. To have Louie dropping 8 from last year while playing with 2 of the best passers in the league? To have Hank under 60 while playing with the best right winger he has ever had in the NHL? Horvat staying at 40 after gaining 15 points in his sophomore year? Daniel 68 Henrik 68 Louie 63 Horvat 46 Baertschi 38 This looks about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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