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I haven't been a fan of the NHL taking control of goal reviews, where we hold our breath and wait to see whether "Toronto" decides if a goal counts. Those calls should be made in-house by referees, perhaps with an option for them to see replays.

 

Now the NHL offices are imposing more control over games with concussion spotters. 

 

Imagine a close playoff game 7 in the third period. Henrik Sedin gets blindsided with a cheap shot. The infraction was missed by the refs. But Henrik took a moment to compose himself. A call from Toronto means Henrik sits in the quiet room for the final key moments. 

 

TSN article:

 

NHL adding more concussion spotters

The Canadian Press

Bill Daly and Gary Bettman, Getty Images

WASHINGTON — The NHL is overhauling its concussion monitoring system.

Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said the league will have four concussion spotters watching all games from a centralized location in either Toronto or New York, as well as spotters at each game to check for visible symptoms. Those spotters will have the authority to have players removed from games.

"It's a pretty major revamp from what it was last year," Daly said Wednesday. "We're going to have both those (remote and on-site) spotters, plus you have the clubs' medical staffs. We're just building in reinforcements, really, to make the system work better."

Previously, there had been team-affiliated concussion spotters in each arena and they could recommend to medical staffs but not require players be removed from a game.

Daly said the new concussion policy goes into effect for the eight-team World Cup of Hockey, which begins Saturday in Toronto, and that the NHL will release more details closer to the start of the regular season.

"Players get removed for visible signs, and that'll be mandatory removal and that'll be done at the league level," Daly said.

Daly said the concussion spotters will work out of the department of player safety and report to the chief medical consultant and lawyer Julie Grand.

The NHL is in the midst of a concussion lawsuit filed by former players alleging that it had the resources to better prevent head trauma, failed to properly warn players of such risks and promoted violent play that led to their injuries.

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Like anything else, it will get a trial run.  If it works well and doesn't cause controversy, it stays.  If it works poorly, it will get revamped.  Until then, the NHL has to cover its butt because of past, current, and future lawsuits from the players.  Can't really blame the owners/league for this.

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That's stupid. They're grown men, let them decide for themselves. They make millions and that aside, if a guy is man enough to want to play through some pain whether it's physical or a concussion which is more than just physical, then let him. 

 

Don't cut out the feet from under a warrior

 

They know the concussion risks when they sign their contracts and lace up the skates. 

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21 minutes ago, apollo said:

That's stupid. They're grown men, let them decide for themselves. They make millions and that aside, if a guy is man enough to want to play through some pain whether it's physical or a concussion which is more than just physical, then let him. 

 

Don't cut out the feet from under a warrior

 

They know the concussion risks when they sign their contracts and lace up the skates. 

When the lesser players run low on money in the future they'll then blame and sue the league for letting them play.  And if any of them develop CTE at any point in their lives and hurt a regular person then that person can then turn around and also sue the league.

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2 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said:

When the lesser players run low on money in the future they'll then blame and sue the league for letting them play.  And if any of them develop CTE at any point in their lives and hurt a regular person then that person can then turn around and also sue the league.

Maybe add a clause in their contracts? :s 

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1 hour ago, Slegr said:

I haven't been a fan of the NHL taking control of goal reviews, where we hold our breath and wait to see whether "Toronto" decides if a goal counts. Those calls should be made in-house by referees, perhaps with an option for them to see replays.

 

Now the NHL offices are imposing more control over games with concussion spotters. 

 

Imagine a close playoff game 7 in the third period. Henrik Sedin gets blindsided with a cheap shot. The infraction was missed by the refs. But Henrik took a moment to compose himself. A call from Toronto means Henrik sits in the quiet room for the final key moments. 

 

TSN article:

 

NHL adding more concussion spotters

The Canadian Press

Bill Daly and Gary Bettman, Getty Images

WASHINGTON — The NHL is overhauling its concussion monitoring system.

Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly said the league will have four concussion spotters watching all games from a centralized location in either Toronto or New York, as well as spotters at each game to check for visible symptoms. Those spotters will have the authority to have players removed from games.

"It's a pretty major revamp from what it was last year," Daly said Wednesday. "We're going to have both those (remote and on-site) spotters, plus you have the clubs' medical staffs. We're just building in reinforcements, really, to make the system work better."

Previously, there had been team-affiliated concussion spotters in each arena and they could recommend to medical staffs but not require players be removed from a game.

Daly said the new concussion policy goes into effect for the eight-team World Cup of Hockey, which begins Saturday in Toronto, and that the NHL will release more details closer to the start of the regular season.

"Players get removed for visible signs, and that'll be mandatory removal and that'll be done at the league level," Daly said.

Daly said the concussion spotters will work out of the department of player safety and report to the chief medical consultant and lawyer Julie Grand.

The NHL is in the midst of a concussion lawsuit filed by former players alleging that it had the resources to better prevent head trauma, failed to properly warn players of such risks and promoted violent play that led to their injuries.

That's some corrupt $&!# if true. Hundreds of lives affected deliberately by the NHL..

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4 minutes ago, apollo said:

Maybe add a clause in their contracts? :s 

I know there's at least one lawyer that peruses CDC.  I wonder if he would know if a clause like that is enforceable.

 

Although, that still doesn't stop a regular person from suing the NHL for any future incidents related to CTE.

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1 hour ago, apollo said:

That's stupid. They're grown men, let them decide for themselves. They make millions and that aside, if a guy is man enough to want to play through some pain whether it's physical or a concussion which is more than just physical, then let him. 

 

Don't cut out the feet from under a warrior

 

They know the concussion risks when they sign their contracts and lace up the skates. 

appolo u got killed in the ring by a punch from a russian. id expect you to be on board with concussion safety.

 

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Revamp the Player safety clowns, if they gave out bigger suspensions for cheap shots to the head it might quell the rat's from doing it. Look at the criteria during the playoffs, a 2 gamer is equal to a 4 gamer in the regular season friggin neanderthal reasoning at it's best.

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7 hours ago, apollo said:

That's stupid. They're grown men, let them decide for themselves.

 

They know the concussion risks when they sign their contracts and lace up the skates. 

I believe the point is,  if a player is truly concussed,  they don't have the full wherewithal to be making decisions at the spurr of the moment like in the middle of a game. 

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7 hours ago, apollo said:

That's stupid. They're grown men, let them decide for themselves. They make millions and that aside, if a guy is man enough to want to play through some pain whether it's physical or a concussion which is more than just physical, then let him. 

 

Don't cut out the feet from under a warrior

 

They know the concussion risks when they sign their contracts and lace up the skates. 

Not a completely unreasonable post Apollo.

 

cops know the risks

 

fireman know the risks

 

marine welder know the risks

 

etc.

 

but I think that allowing a player to continue to play through concussion isn't right.  Even a boxers corner will throw in the towel to protect their fighter.  As well, no doctor will go against their pledge to endanger a patient.

 

if you had a kid there is no way you would want him or her to knowingly endanger their own health.  Money wouldn't matter I'm sure.

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20 minutes ago, PlanB said:

I believe the point is,  if a player is truly concussed,  they don't have the full wherewithal to be making decisions at the spurr of the moment like in the middle of a game. 

^ This.

 

You don't let people,  any people whether they're men or professional athletes,  make decisions that will effect the rest of their lives while they are in compromised mental states Imo.  Leaving those decisions up to team personnel is a major conflict of interest which I'd believe is what the NHL is concerned about from a legal perspective. 

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Well if athletes didn't blame the league for their concussions then this wouldn't have happened.

 

Its a simple process, shine a light in their eyes to test their dilation and test their cerebellum with cognitive processing tasks like what date is it today;  if they pass they can play, if not they go out.

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11 hours ago, Slegr said:

Imagine a close playoff game 7 in the third period. Henrik Sedin gets blindsided with a cheap shot. The infraction was missed by the refs. But Henrik took a moment to compose himself. A call from Toronto means Henrik sits in the quiet room for the final key moments. 

To address this concern, if there was an illegal play that causes the issue and the on ice refs miss it, Toronto should have the ability to also call a penalty on the play (or inform the refs to). 

 

As well as any post game supplementary discipline by the DOPS obviously.

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15 minutes ago, J.R. said:

To address this concern, if there was an illegal play that causes the issue and the on ice refs miss it, Toronto should have the ability to also call a penalty on the play (or inform the refs to). 

 

As well as any post game supplementary discipline by the DOPS obviously.

You mean punish the people responsible for causing head trauma?????

Sounds too logical for the NHL

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9 hours ago, TimberWolf said:

If you are doing that, go all the way and spot for divers and have them immediately suspended and the team killing a five minute pp

This thought kind of got me wondering if the concussion spotters might actually deter the divers a bit, since some divers act like they're phased / injured. I guess I'll have to see how it unfolds before passing too much judgement. Still, the idea of giving NHL offices more say during the course of a game doesn't sit well.

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