TheGuardian_ Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 From a SNet interview, from the Sedins. This isn't the first time one of the Sedin's has hinted that they are willing to do whatever is good for the team or that hockey is business and trades happen. Henrik even stated that if trade was to happen, it was to be expected and part of the business. (2013/14) It appears Benning will be "under pressure" if a deal is to get done. Unsolicited statements from the Sedins' suggesting they might not be adverse to being traded to a cup contender. Quotes from the SN sight; ( hope isn't wrong to do this)“We haven’t won,” he said. “If you want to look back and say you had a great career, you’ve got to win the Stanley Cup.” Henrik is more diplomatic: “Played with great teams, still haven’t been able to win. But still trying,” he said. “We were close to winning [in 2011.] That’s the only thing we’re missing.” Now statements like that seem to indicate a willingness to be moved for an opportunity at the cup, doesn't it? IMO, if true, which it most likely is due to who said it, then Benning should be looking into possible deals even now, you know testing the waters type stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 You're going to get roasted but I do believe the Sedin's wouldn't be opposed to a trade. They've become synonymous with the word Canuck to the fans but they've clearly been getting more and more frustrated with the direction this team is headed and the position they're in at this stage of their careers. I distinctly remember them calling out the kids this year when the kids have been busting their ass, they just aren't good enough. They also made a comment recently about how they want nothing more than to be pushed into a second line role. We are not a good hockey team and this year might be the final straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 as to the title: Trading The Sedin's Just Became More Likely." No it did not........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 i doubt they ever leave but at the end of their contract, i could see the canucks offering them 3.5 mil each for 2 years. they have said, if they don't feel they can play and help this team, they wouldn't stick around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I can see in 2017/18 near the deadline if we haven't won they could be moved to a contender. Anyone who could make their cap work to have sedins as their second line would be hard pressed to beat in the cup. They would command a high price even as rentals. Lots of teams would make that work to stack their odds for a deep cup run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mathew Barzal said: You're going to get roasted but I do believe the Sedin's wouldn't be opposed to a trade. They've become synonymous with the word Canuck to the fans but they've clearly been getting more and more frustrated with the direction this team is headed and the position they're in at this stage of their careers. I distinctly remember them calling out the kids this year when the kids have been busting their ass, they just aren't good enough. They also made a comment recently about how they want nothing more than to be pushed into a second line role. We are not a good hockey team and this year might be the final straw. The Sedins have more value in Vancouver than if they were traded, for that reason and no up and coming top line players coming in the twins are not going anywhere. If you think the Canucks are not a good team now, just imagine the return for the twins, you wont get top line players back and you will create a huge void. The team still can work with them as top line for even a few years at this point to find a solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Sure if you want to speculate something out of nothing I guess you can say that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 12 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The Sedins have more value in Vancouver than if they were traded, for that reason and no up and coming top line players coming in the twins are not going anywhere. If you think the Canucks are not a good team now, just imagine the return for the twins, you wont get top line players back and you will create a huge void. The team still can work with them as top line for even a few years at this point to find a solution. You could almost trade the twins for your complete up and coming first line back or one of the better 2nd lines in the league for a "win now" team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I think if we traded the Twins to a not-quite contender (e.g. the Blues or Predators) we could get a decent center, along with a good puck-moving D-man and prospect and/ or pick in return. Given how close the team thinks they are to contending and how desperate they are to win, I wouldn't think that's too unrealistic, especially considering there's 2 stars going back the other way. e.g. Berglund, Shattenkirk, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ojibwa72 said: You could almost trade the twins for your complete up and coming first line back or one of the better 2nd lines in the league for a "win now" team. Could you though? They'd only go to a contender. What contender has guaranteed future first liners to give up? You'd get good assets in return sure, but not the up and coming first line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuckin_futz Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 And what contending team has $14 million in cap space and decent assets to give up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 SHOULD the twins take on the appearance of Burns/Thornton(the wookies), I'll ensure they're shipped OUTA'HERE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 40 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: The Sedins have more value in Vancouver than if they were traded, for that reason and no up and coming top line players coming in the twins are not going anywhere. If you think the Canucks are not a good team now, just imagine the return for the twins, you wont get top line players back and you will create a huge void. The team still can work with them as top line for even a few years at this point to find a solution. We already have a number of huge voids. We aren't going to magically come up with these first liners either in a few years when they retire/move on. If we keep the Sedin's and keep building through FA we will never touch the area of the draft where we will acquire replacements for the Sedin's. A team like the Flyers could take them on if we took some combination of vets like MacDonald + Read in addition to Konecny, and one of their promising young defenseman. For PURELY funsies/hypothetical/No$&!#itwon'thappen. Marleau - Patrick - Boeser Baertschi - Sutter - Eriksson Etem - Horvat - Hansen Dorsett - Granlund - Virtanen It's not great, but it isn't the end of the world either. Obviously this is a fantasy scenario and it's never going to happen but the outlook of losing the Sedin's isn't too bad if within the first few years they do leave we can snag a center with a top five draft pick. We aren't drafting in that range so long as they're here. And every pick outside of the top 10 needs a minimum of 2-3 years to develop anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derp... Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 they said it would only happen in Vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 19 minutes ago, nuckin_futz said: And what contending team has $14 million in cap space and decent assets to give up? Theoretically the team would only need 7mill in cap space as we could retain 50% on each contract. If they are traded at the deadline the required cap space is even less as 3/4 of the season would be complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bur14Kes17 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I'm incredibly upset right now!!!!!!! I gave OP a MINUS on his reputation in his other thread that got locked. but even tho it got locked, I can put give him a minus on this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Botch, is that you??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 hour ago, TheGuardian_ said: Why don't you quote the ENTIRE article, not just the parts that you think support your rather outlandish theory/speculation? As -Vintage Canuck- posted in your other thread on this same topic (since locked): Quote No, it does not. Why don't you quote the entire article instead of a couple one-liner quotes from the article? Henrik also stated: “If we’re going to win,” Henrik declares, “we’re going to win in Vancouver. That’s the only option. But who knows? We’re not going to stay if we can’t help the team, or if they don’t want us. Who knows what happens?” Meaning, Henrik did not give a green light for a trade. They simply want to win in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 47 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Could you though? They'd only go to a contender. What contender has guaranteed future first liners to give up? You'd get good assets in return sure, but not the up and coming first line. Say maybe Killorn, Drouin, Palat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonoman Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Is this a contest to see who can get the most minus votes?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.