TheGuardian_ Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 What life without the Sedins could be here much quicker than most fans thought IF unsolicited statements from the Sedins over the last two years are correct. Each year these statements appear to becoming more direct, a couple of years ago the statements were kind of general, "it is the business", "these things happen", "we would deal with that if it happens" and now these pretty clear statements. Quotes from the SNet sight; ( hope isn't wrong to do this)“We haven’t won,” he said. “If you want to look back and say you had a great career, you’ve got to win the Stanley Cup.” Henrik is more diplomatic: “Played with great teams, still haven’t been able to win. But still trying,” he said. “We were close to winning [in 2011.] That’s the only thing we’re missing.” Now statements like that seem to indicate a willingness to be moved for an opportunity at the cup, doesn't it? IMO, if true, which it most likely is due to who said it, then Benning should be looking into possible deals even now, you know testing the waters type stuff. So a Canuck line up without the Sedins? Hansen - Sutter - Eriksson Rodin - Grandlund - Virtanen Baerstchi - Horvat - Ruutu Guance - Cassels - Dorsett I would think any deals would be at A trade deadline, most likely not this year, but that would get the Nucks the biggest bang for the buck with them having one more year on their contracts. Now nothing here says they are unhappy but like Bourque, the team and fans, should feel they owe these guys and do what would help them see a great ending to their careers and help this team for the future. There would be nothing stopping them from re-signing with the Canucks after their current contract expires to finish up with the Canucks. Of course Benning could do like he has done all the way along and get nothing, but if he starts at least thinking about it now, he might come up with something better than nothing. What does he need, an outright demand for a trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: What life without the Sedins could be here much quicker than most fans thought IF unsolicited statements from the Sedins over the last two years are correct. Each year these statements appear to becoming for direct, a couple of years ago the statements were kind of general, "it is the business", "these things happen", "we would deal with that if it happens" and now these pretty clear statements. Quotes from the SNet sight; ( hope isn't wrong to do this)“We haven’t won,” he said. “If you want to look back and say you had a great career, you’ve got to win the Stanley Cup.” Henrik is more diplomatic: “Played with great teams, still haven’t been able to win. But still trying,” he said. “We were close to winning [in 2011.] That’s the only thing we’re missing.” Now statements like that seem to indicate a willingness to be moved for an opportunity at the cup, doesn't it? IMO, if true, which it most likely is due to who said it, then Benning should be looking into possible deals even now, you know testing the waters type stuff. So a Canuck line up without the Sedins? Hansen - Sutter - Eriksson Rodin - Grandlund - Virtanen Baerstchi - Horvat - Ruutu Guance - Cassels - Dorsett I would think any deals would be at A trade deadline, most likely not this year, but that would get the Nucks the biggest bang for the buck with them having one more year on their contracts. Now nothing here says they are unhappy but like Bourque, the team and fans, should feel they owe these guys and do what would help them see a great ending to their careers and help this team for the future. There would be nothing stopping them from re-signing with the Canucks after their current contract expires to finish up with the Canucks. Of course Benning could do like he has done all the way along and get nothing, but if he starts at least thinking about it now, he might come up with something better than nothing. What does he need, an outright demand for a trade? JB got snookered an schooled last couple TDL 's an nothing there to indicate he can pull off a block buster that would favour or enhance the teams expedited rebuild to a successful new dynasty ,he has along ways to go . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I just don't see a cup contender being able to work around 14M dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: Now statements like that seem to indicate a willingness to be moved for an opportunity at the cup, doesn't it? No, it does not. Why don't you quote the entire article instead of a couple one-liner quotes from the article? Henrik also stated: “If we’re going to win,” Henrik declares, “we’re going to win in Vancouver. That’s the only option. But who knows? We’re not going to stay if we can’t help the team, or if they don’t want us. Who knows what happens?” Meaning, Henrik did not give a green light for a trade. They simply want to win in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGeorgeGoon Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 If you isolated those comments on their own, and the Sedins brought it up, I guess you could conjure some trade idea. When you consider they were direct, honest answers when they were put on the spot... it is very linear and not suggestive at all in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Stop. You just made basically the exact same thread 15 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Rex425 said: Stop. You just made basically the exact same thread 15 minutes ago His reputation is taking a big hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Some Canuck fans have such outstanding imaginations! Shame they don't put them to better use... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerridwen Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: No, it does not. Why don't you quote the entire article instead of a couple one-liner quotes from the article? Henrik also stated: “If we’re going to win,” Henrik declares, “we’re going to win in Vancouver. That’s the only option. But who knows? We’re not going to stay if we can’t help the team, or if they don’t want us. Who knows what happens?” Meaning, Henrik did not give a green light for a trade. They simply want to win in Vancouver. The quoted post above should be posted over and over and OVER AGAIN in response to the OP. Picking, choosing and posting only the parts of an article that play into the OP's allegedly clairvoyant wishings and imaginings does NOT make something a fact nor a reasonable support for their 'theory'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: No, it does not. Why don't you quote the entire article instead of a couple one-liner quotes from the article? Henrik also stated: “If we’re going to win,” Henrik declares, “we’re going to win in Vancouver. That’s the only option. But who knows? We’re not going to stay if we can’t help the team, or if they don’t want us. Who knows what happens?” Meaning, Henrik did not give a green light for a trade. They simply want to win in Vancouver. This. I like how the op casually left this part out just so there wouldn't be an argument against him. Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 Just now, Xbox said: I just don't see a cup contender being able to work around 14M dollars. It is easy for the Canucks, especially with so short a term left on the contracts. Retain half their salaries and then take on a short term "bad", cap heavy contract. Doing this would enhance the return immensely, especially if draft picks are coming back. example - retain 7 mil in cap hit, this still reduces the Canucks cap hit by 7 mil, and take on a 5 mil cap, the Nucks still save 2 mil in cap hit and the team trading for them now save 2 mil in cap and salary, one player at 5 mil vs two star players at 7 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xbox Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Just now, TheGuardian_ said: It is easy for the Canucks, especially with so short a term left on the contracts. Retain half their salaries and then take on a short term "bad", cap heavy contract. Doing this would enhance the return immensely, especially if draft picks are coming back. example - retain 7 mil in cap hit, this still reduces the Canucks cap hit by 7 mil, and take on a 5 mil cap, the Nucks still save 2 mil in cap hit and the team trading for them now save 2 mil in cap and salary, one player at 5 mil vs two star players at 7 mil. Our owner doesn't want to rebuild, no way that could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AriGold Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: No, it does not. Why don't you quote the entire article instead of a couple one-liner quotes from the article? Henrik also stated: “If we’re going to win,” Henrik declares, “we’re going to win in Vancouver. That’s the only option. But who knows? We’re not going to stay if we can’t help the team, or if they don’t want us. Who knows what happens?” Meaning, Henrik did not give a green light for a trade. They simply want to win in Vancouver. Wow, if he really cut out that much he should get a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Way to try to disguise another Sedin trade thread as "Canucks Talk" troll. 18 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: His reputation is taking a big hit. What reputation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luxury Yacht Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 If for some reason the Sedins were to become interested in a trade to a contender then I would support that. Even better would be for them to retire as Canucks and to sign one last contract at a discount, and be the best 3rd line in Hockey in a couple years, bringing us to the next level. This will of course only happen with some luck, hard work and Campy Jim and Co. finagling some magic. Haters will say Campy Jim is moron and will refuse to believe in the possibility. Homers will continue to see no fault in ol' Campy Jim's moves thus far and see us as a contender within a year or two. The reality is, as usual, somewhere in between the two schools of thought. That all said, I highly doubt the Sedins are going anywhere, they are forever Canucks and will go down in history as such. They are the embodiment of professionals...in my opinion...and I love them like hockey brothers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Pick one thread to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 4 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: His reputation is taking a big hit. He had one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 This is back on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 4 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: His reputation is taking a big hit. What reputation?! lol just another poster who waits like a snake in the grass to pounce on even the lamest reason to stir the pot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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