J.I.A.H.N Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Leon Draisaitl is going to be in for a raise with the Oilers next year, and since I hate the Oilers, I propose the Canucks offer him a 7 year - $54,750,000 contract. Now maybe the Oilers match, but the fact is I don't think they are planning to pay anything near that for him next year and they would have to consider that it would destroy their internal cap My bet is they offer him a 3 year $4,000,000 contract and he will want more. IMO, he is a #1 Center, and the cost would be nothing 2018 1st, 2nd and 3rd...........so what! Leon is the real deal and would be our center for years, giving us a guaranteed large young elite center, until he is 29 or 30. If Benning is serious about rebuilding on the fly, this goes a long way to achieving that...........it also opens up the possibility of moving the Sedins or Eriksson, and still moving forward, with a much rosier future The question I would like to know is would Edmonton match that...........Leons current salary is $925,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Why have people not figured out that offer sheeting players, especially within the division, is a horrible idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 17, 2016 Author Share Posted September 17, 2016 55 minutes ago, Pears said: Why have people not figured out that offer sheeting players, especially within the division, is a horrible idea? Explain to me why that is So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 He's a #1 center, who played parts of last season on the wing and will most likely spend most of this season on the wing. So offering him a contract of $7.8 million is the answer thus ensuring we give the Oilers multiple picks in what could easily be an off year for us, so on top of THEIR annual top 3 pick, we give them a possible extra bunch from us. K.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 I just do not think this is the time to be giving up picks or players,but he will be a 1st line center so would be worth a shot at getting him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Warhippy said: He's a #1 center, who played parts of last season on the wing and will most likely spend most of this season on the wing. So offering him a contract of $7.8 million is the answer thus ensuring we give the Oilers multiple picks in what could easily be an off year for us, so on top of THEIR annual top 3 pick, we give them a possible extra bunch from us. K.... I made a math error WH 54,250 ÷ 7 = 7.750 per Warhippy Which is a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd by next year Draisaitl is worth way more than that in picks....way more....... Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 4 hours ago, Warhippy said: He's a #1 center, who played parts of last season on the wing and will most likely spend most of this season on the wing. So offering him a contract of $7.8 million is the answer thus ensuring we give the Oilers multiple picks in what could easily be an off year for us, so on top of THEIR annual top 3 pick, we give them a possible extra bunch from us. K.... I sure hope that's sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 GIVE ME DRAISAITL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 5 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: Explain to me why that is So? What would stop them from doing the same to us when say, Boeser needs a new contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billabong Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 no rfas are bad news BUT the way you squeeze a team for a player the sensible way is using the expansion draft against them. A good player on some of the stacked teams will not want to lose a player for nothing and that includes rfas they havent resigned before the draft which they will still need to protect for the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 1 hour ago, janisahockeynut said: I made a math error WH 54,250 ÷ 7 = 7.750 per Warhippy Which is a 1st, 2nd, and a 3rd by next year Draisaitl is worth way more than that in picks....way more....... Peace He may be worth that in picks, but he's not worth that in salary. And when it comes to offer sheets, it doesn't just have to do with "screwing over the other team because you want their asset." The entire league suffers when bloated contracts like that happen. Not only that, then your team's internal salary scructure gets fracked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB5 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 8 hours ago, janisahockeynut said: IMO, he is a #1 Center, and the cost would be nothing 2018 1st, 2nd and 3rd...........so what! Leon is the real deal and would be our center for years, giving us a guaranteed large young elite center, until he is 29 or 30. Depending on how he does this year, he is probably worth that in picks. I guess the thing is that he still would have to agree to sign an offer sheet. There guys in Edmonton seem to think they are going to be winning a Stanley Cup so he may want to stay to see how it all pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 5 hours ago, Alflives said: I sure hope that's sarcasm. Not in the least. Laughing about Jonny Gs demands then giving a divisional rival 3 picks for an RFA and then giving said RFA more money than anyone on our team is making after barely 2 seasons in the league is nuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertuzzi4eva Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 14 hours ago, Warhippy said: He's a #1 center, who played parts of last season on the wing and will most likely spend most of this season on the wing. So offering him a contract of $7.8 million is the answer thus ensuring we give the Oilers multiple picks in what could easily be an off year for us, so on top of THEIR annual top 3 pick, we give them a possible extra bunch from us. K.... Not to mention pissing off a division rival who may well start sniping your own RFA's if you do this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeridebc Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 11 hours ago, Pears said: What would stop them from doing the same to us when say, Boeser needs a new contract? I can't see them having any cap room to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 10 hours ago, Monty said: He may be worth that in picks, but he's not worth that in salary. And when it comes to offer sheets, it doesn't just have to do with "screwing over the other team because you want their asset." The entire league suffers when bloated contracts like that happen. Not only that, then your team's internal salary scructure gets fracked up. I understand that is the common belief Monty Here is my thoughts on that 1. We are a business and need to look after ourselves not worry about the other teams 2. Since when has the league ever worried about us Our internal cap would not be disrupted because LD would instantly be our best young talent and we already pay the Sedins an old salary of 7 million per 3. Yes we over pay year one, but under pay year 3 of 7 4. Edmonton has to worry that they won't loose more and sign McDavid to a 8 year 88 million contract.....thus jamming up thier own cap... doubt they have enough money to go after ours 5. The enter your level kids have been artificially held back in contract for years 6. Why worry about disrupting RFA'S league wide when we are a rich team and would be a "have" team.....IMO it levels the playing field for us....screw the league...it's ran out of the east anyways I don't think we should be worrying about anyone else....besides we can sign our RFA'S before their contracts finish and sign the important ones to long term contracts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 21 minutes ago, janisahockeynut said: I understand that is the common belief Monty Here is my thoughts on that 1. We are a business and need to look after ourselves not worry about the other teams 2. Since when has the league ever worried about us Our internal cap would not be disrupted because LD would instantly be our best your talent and we already pay the Sedins an old salary of 7 million per 3. Yes we over pay year one, but under pay year 3 of 7 4. Edmonton has to worry that they won't loose more and sign McDavid to a 8 year 88 million contract.....thus jamming up thier own cap... doubt they have enough money to go after ours 5. The enter your level kids have been artificially held back in contract for years 6. Why worry about disrupting RFA'S league wide when we are a rich team and would be a "have" team.....IMO it levels the playing field for us....screw the league...it's ran out of the east anyways I don't think we should be worrying about anyone else....besides we have to sign our RFA'S before their contracts finish and sign the important ones long term contracts Well, those are fine thoughts to have, but they are wrong. Proof is that it has been said for years as to why offer sheets don't occur. Case in point, Dougie Hamilton. Boston knew they couldn't re-sign him, and Calgary wanted him. Instead of going the offer sheet route, when only the Oilers have done so in the last decade, they just traded picks instead, as to not inflate contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 14 minutes ago, Monty said: Well, those are fine thoughts to have, but they are wrong. Proof is that it has been said for years as to why offer sheets don't occur. Case in point, Dougie Hamilton. Boston knew they couldn't re-sign him, and Calgary wanted him. Instead of going the offer sheet route, when only the Oilers have done so in the last decade, they just traded picks instead, as to not inflate contracts. I guess Boston decided to do that, but that doesn't mean we have to The world is full of firsts Monty, if Columbus doesn't sail across the sea, we wouldn't be here....some would say that is good, some say when that is bad....depends on your point of view. I say we end up better than most if you could sign them, because we are a sign to the max cap team.... The whole sham of profit sharing doesn't help us....so why worry about them when we sign a free agent I don't get it....except that greedy owners want more money , fans want a winning team and I don't care how we get it....it is not my concern.....I just don't think I have to subsidize a $9.00 ticket in Phoenix So IMO sign away, if another franchise can't pay...too bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted September 18, 2016 Author Share Posted September 18, 2016 Monty On another note... The NHL corporate has one business model on how to run the league The Canucks have another...based on local ticket sales and merchandising and Aqualini's deep pockets The 2 models are not nessesarly identical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpt Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Pears said: What would stop them from doing the same to us when say, Boeser needs a new contract? The oilers won't have any cap space in the future when they need to spend 15 millions a season on McJesus and they are still stuck eating Lucic's salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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