Sedins all time nhl Vrs Sweden

[combover]

1	1971		Mats Sundin	F	1346	564	785	1349	1093	73	160	31	96	0.419	0.583	1.002
2	1972		Daniel Alfredsson	F	1246	444	713	1157	510	155	135	25	73	0.356	0.572	0.929
3	1970		Nicklas Lidström	D	1564	264	878	1142	514	450	132	10	35	0.169	0.561	0.730
4	1980		Henrik Sedin	F	1166	222	748	970	622	214	60	7	34	0.190	0.642	0.832
5	1980		Daniel Sedin	F	1143	355	587	942	474	184	123	0	78	0.311	0.514	0.824
6	1973		Peter Forsberg	F	708	249	636	885	690	238	71	16	43	0.352	0.898	1.250
7	1973		Markus Näslund	F	1117	395	474	869	736	6	126	6	53	0.354	0.424	0.778
8	1964		Tomas Sandström	F	983	394	462	856	1193	6	119	10	44	0.401	0.470	0.871
9	1980		Henrik Zetterberg	F	918	309	527	836	365	144	97	9	62	0.337	0.574	0.911
10	1960		Tom Steen	F	950	264	553	817	753	-70	74	13	28	0.278	0.582	0.860
11	1951		Börje Salming	D	1148	150	637	787	1344	175	46	6	13	0.131	0.555	0.686
12	1956		Kent Nilsson	F	553	264	422	686	116	-20	97	16	28	0.477	0.763	1.241
13	1972		Michael Nylander	F	920	209	470	679	468	74	63	0	33	0.227	0.511	0.738
14	1967		Ulf Dahlen	F	966	301	354	655	230	-20	120	2	49	0.312	0.366	0.678
15	1987		Nicklas Bäckström	F	652	165	477	642	334	96	50	2	24	0.253	0.732	0.985
16	1959		Mats Näslund	F	651	251	383	634	111	116	68	2	35	0.386	0.588	0.974
17	1956		Thomas Gradin	F	677	209	384	593	298	-34	51	10	29	0.309	0.567	0.876
18	1961		Patrik Sundström	F	679	219	369	588	349	-24	70	6	19	0.323	0.543	0.866
19	1966		Fredrik Olausson	D	1022	147	434	581	450	-28	72	2	20	0.144	0.425	0.568
20	1958		Bengt-Åke Gustafsson	F	629	196	359	555	196	49	49	17	33	0.312	0.571	0.882
21	1967		Calle Johansson	D	1109	119	416	535	519	57	53	4	17	0.107	0.375	0.482
22	1973		Tomas Holmström	F	1026	243	287	530	769	28	122	0	39	0.237	0.280	0.517
23	1952		Bobby Nystrom	F	900	235	278	513	1248	113	27	0	38	0.261	0.309	0.570
24	1985		Loui Eriksson	F	725	212	292	504	146	59	54	9	31	0.292	0.403	0.695
25	1984		Alexander Steen	F	746	197	284	481	355	46	49	9	41	0.264	0.381	0.645
26	1972		Mikael Renberg	F	661	190	274	464	372	54	55	3	21	0.287	0.415	0.702
27	1974		Fredrik Modin	F	898	232	230	462	453	-11	46	4	37	0.258	0.256	0.514
28	1963		Pelle Eklund	F	594	120	335	455	109	8	41	6	16	0.202	0.564	0.766
29	1978		Kristian Huselius	F	662	190	261	451	256	-16	58	4	31	0.287	0.394	0.681
30	1960		Håkan Loob	F	450	193	236	429	189	103	42	9	17	0.429	0.524	0.953
31	1951		Anders Hedberg	F	465	172	225	397	144	50	39	1	21	0.370	0.484	0.854
32	1990		Erik Karlsson	D	479	100	285	385	252	-21	22	1	18	0.209	0.595	0.804
33	1979		Johan Franzén	F	602	187	183	370	401	93	69	4	44	0.311	0.304	0.615
34	1947		Juha Widing	F	575	144	226	370	208	-81	24	0	21	0.250	0.393	0.643
35	1954		Stefan Persson	D	622	52	317	369	574	176	30	0	7	0.084	0.510	0.593
36	1956		Jörgen Pettersson	F	435	174	192	366	117	-14	42	3	24	0.400	0.441	0.841
37	1981		Niklas Kronwall	D	738	74	291	365	456	21	31	0	14	0.100	0.394	0.495
38	1975		Niklas Sundström	F	750	117	232	349	256	45	17	7	17	0.156	0.309	0.465
39	1976		Mikael Samuelsson	F	699	149	197	346	370	50	45	3	18	0.213	0.282	0.495
40	1960		Tomas Jonsson	D	552	85	259	344	482	66	23	3	12	0.154	0.469	0.623
41	1976		Mattias Öhlund	D	909	93	250	343	885	-6	36	5	19	0.102	0.275	0.377
42	1964		Ulf Samuelsson	D	1080	57	275	332	2453	172	9	1	9	0.053	0.255	0.307
43	1951		Willy Lindström	F	582	161	162	323	200	-5	26	0	19	0.277	0.278	0.555
44	1987		Patric Hörnqvist	F	509	153	165	318	247	62	50	0	30	0.301	0.324	0.625
45	1968		Johan Garpenlöv	F	609	114	197	311	276	-65	33	1	16	0.187	0.323	0.511
46	1984		Tobias Enström	D	616	52	236	288	360	4	22	1	7	0.084	0.383	0.468
47	1975		Per Johan Axelsson	F	797	103	184	287	276	-26	10	10	14	0.129	0.231	0.360
48	1976		Kim Johnsson	D	739	67	217	284	406	27	31	0	7	0.091	0.294	0.384
49	1986		Alexander Edler	D	620	72	207	279	387	-6	38	1	4	0.116	0.334	0.450

so I was watching the World Cup and saw an interview with afredson and wondered where the sedins compared in all time nhl stats vrs the likes of the forsbergs sundins alfredsons. I found it surprising even though I've watched them there whole careers (nhl). Two of the most underrated underapreciated players of all time. 

 

[Warhippy]

Just stop and think for a second.

 

Lidstrom is top 3 all time in Swedish scoring.  And probably could have beaten Alferedsson with 1 single extra season which he no doubt could have played.

 

We've some gems in the twins.  Hoping they still have 4 or 5 years left.

[Blömqvist]

I wonder if the Twins can catch Alfredsson before they retire.

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

Yep. Barring career ending injuries (*frantically look for a wood surface to kill the bad juju*), the twins should at least play their way to 2nd and 3rd on the Swedish all time list. Maybe even 1st and 2nd if they play well into their 40s (although Sundin will be tough to catch).

[Warhippy]

2 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Yep. Barring career ending injuries (*frantically look for a wood surface to kill the bad juju*), the twins should at least play their way to 2nd and 3rd on the Swedish all time list. Maybe even 1st and 2nd if they play well into their 40s (although Sundin will be tough to catch).

5 more years of 80+ points...I don't see it to catch Shrek

[SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME]

1 minute ago, Warhippy said:

5 more years of 80+ points...I don't see it to catch Shrek

They'd need to play well into their 40s to do it. But if they can manage 3-4 years of 60+ points, and then average 35-40, they'd probably catch him if they play until their mid-40s. Agree that it's unlikely but I don't put anything past the twins. 

[Green Building]

It kills me when people think they should be traded. I don't want to see them ever wearing another jersey.

 

Finishing 2/3 all time would be amazing. even more amazing would be seeing them get some credit around the league. Not from players, they already know, but from fans of other teams. All in all the only thing that matters is that I've watched them since day one in this league and they have done a tremendous job setting an example for other young teammates about what it takes to stay in this league.

 

Hoping they play 3 more seasons. Then we'll take stock of what we have on the roster. Lots can happen in 3 years. Just look at all that's happened over the last 3.

[Green Building]

Even more incredible than finishing 2/3 would be if their careers ended tied for second.

[Jaku]

Impressive stats, there's no doubt about that. I could see them being 2/3. Catching up with Mats will be a challenge though.

[Rush17]

55 minutes ago, combover said:

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so I was watching the World Cup and saw an interview with afredson and wondered where the sedins compared in all time nhl stats vrs the likes of the forsbergs sundins alfredsons. I found it surprising even though I've watched them there whole careers (nhl). Two of the most underrated underapreciated players of all time. 

 

I thought Zetterberg being named captain over hank was a poor choice.  I think hank as a captain has done good things for the swedes.

 

some on this board had the sedins on the 3rd line of team Sweden. I'm glad that wasn't the case they deserve the respect they are getting.

[SilentSam]

59 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Just stop and think for a second.

 

Lidstrom is top 3 all time in Swedish scoring.  And probably could have beaten Alferedsson with 1 single extra season which he no doubt could have played.

 

We've some gems in the twins.  Hoping they still have 4 or 5 years left.

Watching the chemistry develop between the Twins and Louie Eriksson at the WCH has looked bright.. especially in this 3rd p of the Euro-Swdn game.  

They're even cycling a fore-check on the Euro Team!  

[cripplereh]

Lidstrom is the most amazing in that group being a D man but think they will end up close but doubt they get past Mats!

[Coconuts]

Depending on how long they want to play they could easily finish their careers as numbers two and three. And some people want them traded, it boggles the mind. I never want to see them in another NHL uniform, we've been so fortunate to have them.

[Bombastik der Teutone]

imagine a alltime healthy peter forsberg ..he may would be no.2 behind alfie

 

but great stats by the twins ..and they never missed a significant time of a season 

[khay]

3 hours ago, Blömqvist said:

I wonder if the Twins can catch Alfredsson before they retire.

Good question, I was wondering the same. Probably need at least 3 productive seasons to catch him... I'd say given their current conditions, it's possible for them to play 3 more seasons but how productive will they be? Can the keep up 60 pts per season?

[J-Dizzle]

10 minutes ago, khay said:

Good question, I was wondering the same. Probably need at least 3 productive seasons to catch him... I'd say given their current conditions, it's possible for them to play 3 more seasons but how productive will they be? Can the keep up 60 pts per season?

Considering the recent downswing in points/season in the NHL 60 isn't as easy as it was even 5 years ago it seems.... I would think they will hit that mark for at least another 2-3 years though. 

[-AJ-]

How about Edler at 49th though. That guy is sneakily racking up the career point totals.

[IbanezRG]

Anyone who looks at games played as well as point totals would notice that Peter Forsberg is the real winner on that list.

[apollo]

Here's how my list currently looks, all time

Lidstrom - #1 

Forsberg - #2 

Sundin - #3 
Alfredson - #4

Daniel / Hank - 5/6 

Naslund - #7 

I think Hank and Daniel have potential to finish #2 and #3. 

Forsberg and Lidstrom had the benefit on being on pre cap era stacked teams... If Sedins keep pace, they should easily be undisputed #2 and #3 and Lidstrom. Put Hank / Daniel on those teams and they're easily ahead of them all in points. 

[zombieksa]

I'm in the belief that the twins will play at least 1 year, but probably 2 passed their current contracts. So lets say they average 50 points in those 4 years your looking at either a 2&4 or 2&3 finish.

Personally, I think if in two years time the Canucks seem very ahead of schedule and are competing heavily, the twins will sign yearly until the core matures just for their shot to win it here. I predict we have another 5 years of the Sedins. Be it on the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line.