D'Angelo Russell Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Is the Syrian war the fuse that lights the powder keg into a greater war? Summarizing events as best as I can from memory that have happened in the last couple of weeks, the ceasefire deal collapsed in late September after 62 Syrian Army troops were "accidentally" killed in a bombardment by the US air force. Russian and Syrian troops counterattack furiously and destroys US backed "moderate" militants in Aleppo, aka. Al Nusra or Al Sham or whatever name is called now and ISIS. The U.S. is escalating the war threats with the state dept threatening to sent Islamic terrorists to attack possibly Russian cities (http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-threatens-to-send-islamic-terrorists-into-russia/5548737?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles), and have cut off bilateral relations with Russia starting today. Now Russia is preparing for its largest nuclear warfare drill starting Oct 4th-7th, with a staggering 40 million citizens involved. Full article from Zero Hedge is here: 40 Million Russians To Take Part In "Nuclear Disaster" Drill, Days After US General Warns Of War With Moscow As relations between Russia and the US disintegrate as a result of the escalating proxy war in Syria, which today culminated with Putin halting a Plutonium cleanup effort with the US, shortly before the US State Department announced it would end negotiations with Russia over Syria, tomorrow an unprecedented 40 million Russian citizens, as well as 200,000 specialists from "emergency rescue divisions" and 50,000 units of equipment are set to take part in a four day-long civil defense, emergency evacuation and disaster preparedness drill, the Russian Ministry for Civil Defense reported on its website. According to the ministry, an all-Russian civil defense drill involving federal and regional executive authorities and local governments dubbed "Organization of civil defense during large natural and man-caused disasters in the Russian Federation" will start tomorrow morning in all constituent territories of Russia and last until October 7. While the ministry does not specify what kind of "man-caused disaster" it envisions, it would have to be a substantial one for 40 million Russians to take part in the emergency preparedness drill. Furthermore, be reading the guidelines of the drill, we can get a rather good idea of just what it is that Russia is "preparing" for. The website adds that "the main goal of the drill is to practice organization of management during civil defense events and emergency and fire management, to check preparedness of management bodies and forces of civil defense on all levels to respond to natural and man-made disasters and to take civil defense measures." Oleg Manuilov, director of the Civil Defence Ministry explained that the exercise will be a test of how the population would respond to a "disaster" under an "emergency" situation. Some further details, on the 3-stage, 4 day drill: I stage: organization of civil defense actions The stage is going to practice notification and gathering of senior officials of federal and regional executive authorities, local governments and civil defense forces, deployment of civil defense management system on all levels, readying civil defense communication and notification system. After the National Crisis Management Center have brought the management signals, all management bodies, state authorities, forces and facilities on duty and people will be notified through notification systems available. II stage: Planning and organization of civil defense actions. Deploying a team of civil defense forces and facilities designed to respond to large disasters and fires. The stage plans to practice deployment a mobile interagency multi-functional team of civil defense forces and facilities in each federal district in order to carry our rescue and other urgent operations, civil defense actions and to deploy special civil defense units in constituent territories; putting rescue military units, divisions of the federal fire service, rescue units on standby. The stage provides for the team to be reinforced, activation of backup control centers and practicing collecting and exchanging information in the field of civil defense. III stage: Organization of actions of civil defense management bodies and forces for response to large disasters and fires. The stage will deal with the use of the civil defense team to respond to large disasters and fires, setting up aerial and mobile control centers, revising of routes for save evacuation of people, organization of vital services; taking off fire and rescue units of the federal fire service to put out fires and conduct rescue operations at potentially dangerous facilities, including closed administrative territorial entities. The drill will rehearse radiation, chemical and biological protection of the personnel and population during emergencies at crucial and potentially dangerous facilities. Fire safety, civil defense and human protection at social institutions and public buildings are also planned to be checked. Response units will deploy radiation, chemical and biological monitoring centers and sanitation posts at the emergency areas, while laboratory control networks are going to be put on standby. The fact that among the measures tasked for the civil defense team will be a response to "disasters and fires" as well as the rehearsal of "radiation, chemical and biological protection", makes it clear that Russia is about to hold its biggest nuclear war drill since perhaps the end of the Cold War. Why now? Perhaps, in addition to the sharp deterioration in relations between Russia and the west, where tensions are on par with the cold war, another answer may come from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford, who last week warned Congress that the implementation of a No Fly Zone in Syria as proposed by John Kerry recently, and a centerpiece of Hillary’s foreign policy strategy, would result in World War III. During testimony before the Senate Committee on Armed Services last week General Joseph Dunford rang the alarm over a policy shift that is gaining more traction within the halls of Washington following the collapse of the ceasefire brokered by the United States and Russia in Syria saying that it could result in a major international war which he was not prepared to advocate on behalf of. Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi asked about Hillary Clinton’s proposal for a no fly zone in Syria in response to allegations that Russia and Syria have intensified their aerial bombardment of rebel-held East Aleppo since the collapse of the ceasefire. "What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped? What do you think of that option?" asked Wicker. "Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia. That is a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make," said the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggesting the policy was too hawkish even for military leaders. As a reminder, Hillary Clinton strongly argued in favor of a no fly zone ever since October 2015, just days after Russia began a bombing campaign aimed at maintaining the stability of the Syrian government. "I personally would be advocating now for a no fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees," said Clinton in an interview with NBC in October 2015. Despite the warnings, the former Secretary of State and current presidential candidate, who has a well-known hawkish position towards regime change and matters related to Russia, has continued to advocate this position which has gained traction in recent weeks among top US diplomats. Clinton is note alone: as the WSJ reported in June, more than 50 US diplomats endorsed a notorious dissent memo, demanding that that the Obama administration employ military options against Assad, such as the implementation of a no fly zone if not a direct attack against the Syrian regime. The argument from the diplomats is that the situation in Syria will continue to devolve without direct action by the US military, an argument of dubious legality if undertaken unilaterally without a UN Security Council resolution but which as Sputnik reports, the US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power has been laying the groundwork for under the controversial “right to protect” theory of international law arguing that Russia’s opposition to a resolution should be ignored because they are a party to the conflict. Russia, in turn, has countered that if the Assad regime falls then terrorist groups including ISIS and al-Nusra Front will likely fill the resulting power vacuum descending the country into an even greater harbor for international terrorism. Ultimately, the Syrian conflict is fundamentally about the transport of energy, and whether Russia maintains its dominance over European natural gas imports, or if - with the Syrian regime deposed - a Qatar natural gas pipeline can cross the territory and make its way to Europe. As for the Russian nuclear war drill, we can only hope that any such rising hints of nuclear warfare remain in the realm of the purely theoretical. The Russian govt site is here: http://en.mchs.ru/mass_media/news/item/32915549/ Obviously hoping this will settle quickly but it may escalate into a nightmare scenario. I feel the elections down in the US have become a distraction and people have become divided and blinded to what's going on around the world, and the mainstream media is not covering some very alarming stories. There are many other events going on around the world that are also very disturbing but I'm not going to post them all. People might say its "fear porn" and it will never happen but the people of Russia certainly don't think so. I hope people pay closer attention to what's going on in Syria and elsewhere. It's my view that the US is the aggressor and true sponsor of terrorism in this war (and elsewhere around the world) although others might disagree, but at least this gets the thinking caps on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Just how the late 40's-early 90's Cold War started. Oh well, I lived the first 17 years of my life wondering if I would some day glow in the dark. It's now the Millennials and Gen Z's turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 is anyone suprised until the day comes when nut jobs arent running hard grade military death machines we will all be at risk of death im suprised it hasnt happened yet. No one seems to understand why people are getting lukemia and other weird cancers its because all these garbage nuclear weapons and waste are leeching into our ground water no one seems to think maybe we shouldnt be messing around with stuff that will kill us all if anything all nuclear weapons and nuclear reactors should be shut down and scientists should come up with better ideas on breaking down nuclear waste so its not dangerous you cant tell me its not possible. Meanwhile 30 tons of nuclear waste enter pacific ocean every day in japan and not one media company talks about it weird.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 As always, another U.S b.s war. https://www.rt.com/op-edge/361313-syria-kerry-leaked-tapes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILL BILL NECRO Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Russia is no longer afraid of the USA or NATO. They really lost their way when russia carved out ukrane. Let's hope for the sake of human kinda USA and Russia does not go to war with each other because it will lead to world war 3, and as a close ally to the states, Canada will be dragged in. Now since I am the only male in the family, i will not be drafted. At at the end of the day, USA will drag on their allies(Britain, France , Germany and others). Russia will probably drag in other powerful allies such as china,Pakistan, Iran, not looking good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Guys, calm down. There was a Russian on reddit talking about this, he says it happens for maybe a minute or two once every three months. It's just to make sure everything's working properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, thejazz97 said: Guys, calm down. There was a Russian on reddit talking about this, he says it happens for maybe a minute or two once every three months. It's just to make sure everything's working properly. Too late, I am already in my bomb shelter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 What are the 40 Million Russian doing to prepare? Getting under their desks when the warhead hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 1 hour ago, MJDDawg said: What are the 40 Million Russian doing to prepare? Getting under their desks when the warhead hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 This is something the Canadian government desperately needs to start doing. Issues like Ft Mac saw a lot of major issues crop up, let alone a potential tsunami on the east coast via La Palma, a massive earthquake via the cascadia on the west coast which this country is completely and woefully unprepared for. They should hold/stage drills once ever 6 months in winter and summer including the armed services and municipal services as well as the citizenry. Not to scare people but to ensure they're ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 While I can't speak to the veracity of this story, I decided to have a closer look at "Global Research" and I have to admit that their content makes me wonder....these are the headlines of other stories populating their main page: Barbarism in Words and Deeds. Barbarism of U.S. Imperial Wars is Unmatched U.S. “Military Aid” to Al Qaeda, ISIS-Daesh: Pentagon Uses Illicit Arms Trafficking to Channel Enormous Shipments of Light Weapons into Syria The US, France and Britain Scrap United Nations Diplomacy, Embrace Terrorism against the People of Syria… Video: Lawsuits against the Neocons: Class Action against Hillary’s DNC, War Crimes Civil Lawsuit against George W. Bush Et Al… Fake News and False Flags: Pentagon Paid Millions to Create Fake Terrorist Videos Seems to me like they might have an agenda.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tortorella Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 But please hate trump who wants to improve us russia relations. Lol'd hard. Hey look those leaked tapes from kerry. To bad trump said he wasn't a hero. What a mean person trump is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 LOL this is just Russian propaganda. The US is really not all that interested in Russia, other than stopping cyber attacks. So Russia needs to show their own population that there's a big bad enemy wanting to destroy them. The real issues in Russia are the failing economy and the total collapse of the democratic process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobble Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 How about we just get all the politicians together in one room and throw one sword into the fray. Let them fight it out since they seem so ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, Hobble said: How about we just get all the politicians together in one room and throw one hundred pounds of marijuana into the fray. Let them smoke it out since they seem so ready. fify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 All of this is just a smokescreen to take the public's attention away from the impending zombie apocalypse. Book it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I for one welcome our new Russian overlords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realtor Rod Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 On 10/3/2016 at 11:40 PM, D'Angelo Russell said: Is the Syrian war the fuse that lights the powder keg into a greater war? Summarizing events as best as I can from memory that have happened in the last couple of weeks, the ceasefire deal collapsed in late September after 62 Syrian Army troops were "accidentally" killed in a bombardment by the US air force. Russian and Syrian troops counterattack furiously and destroys US backed "moderate" militants in Aleppo, aka. Al Nusra or Al Sham or whatever name is called now and ISIS. The U.S. is escalating the war threats with the state dept threatening to sent Islamic terrorists to attack possibly Russian cities (http://www.globalresearch.ca/u-s-threatens-to-send-islamic-terrorists-into-russia/5548737?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles), and have cut off bilateral relations with Russia starting today. Now Russia is preparing for its largest nuclear warfare drill starting Oct 4th-7th, with a staggering 40 million citizens involved. Full article from Zero Hedge is here: 40 Million Russians To Take Part In "Nuclear Disaster" Drill, Days After US General Warns Of War With Moscow As relations between Russia and the US disintegrate as a result of the escalating proxy war in Syria, which today culminated with Putin halting a Plutonium cleanup effort with the US, shortly before the US State Department announced it would end negotiations with Russia over Syria, tomorrow an unprecedented 40 million Russian citizens, as well as 200,000 specialists from "emergency rescue divisions" and 50,000 units of equipment are set to take part in a four day-long civil defense, emergency evacuation and disaster preparedness drill, the Russian Ministry for Civil Defense reported on its website. According to the ministry, an all-Russian civil defense drill involving federal and regional executive authorities and local governments dubbed "Organization of civil defense during large natural and man-caused disasters in the Russian Federation" will start tomorrow morning in all constituent territories of Russia and last until October 7. While the ministry does not specify what kind of "man-caused disaster" it envisions, it would have to be a substantial one for 40 million Russians to take part in the emergency preparedness drill. Furthermore, be reading the guidelines of the drill, we can get a rather good idea of just what it is that Russia is "preparing" for. The website adds that "the main goal of the drill is to practice organization of management during civil defense events and emergency and fire management, to check preparedness of management bodies and forces of civil defense on all levels to respond to natural and man-made disasters and to take civil defense measures." Oleg Manuilov, director of the Civil Defence Ministry explained that the exercise will be a test of how the population would respond to a "disaster" under an "emergency" situation. Some further details, on the 3-stage, 4 day drill: I stage: organization of civil defense actions The stage is going to practice notification and gathering of senior officials of federal and regional executive authorities, local governments and civil defense forces, deployment of civil defense management system on all levels, readying civil defense communication and notification system. After the National Crisis Management Center have brought the management signals, all management bodies, state authorities, forces and facilities on duty and people will be notified through notification systems available. II stage: Planning and organization of civil defense actions. Deploying a team of civil defense forces and facilities designed to respond to large disasters and fires. The stage plans to practice deployment a mobile interagency multi-functional team of civil defense forces and facilities in each federal district in order to carry our rescue and other urgent operations, civil defense actions and to deploy special civil defense units in constituent territories; putting rescue military units, divisions of the federal fire service, rescue units on standby. The stage provides for the team to be reinforced, activation of backup control centers and practicing collecting and exchanging information in the field of civil defense. III stage: Organization of actions of civil defense management bodies and forces for response to large disasters and fires. The stage will deal with the use of the civil defense team to respond to large disasters and fires, setting up aerial and mobile control centers, revising of routes for save evacuation of people, organization of vital services; taking off fire and rescue units of the federal fire service to put out fires and conduct rescue operations at potentially dangerous facilities, including closed administrative territorial entities. The drill will rehearse radiation, chemical and biological protection of the personnel and population during emergencies at crucial and potentially dangerous facilities. Fire safety, civil defense and human protection at social institutions and public buildings are also planned to be checked. Response units will deploy radiation, chemical and biological monitoring centers and sanitation posts at the emergency areas, while laboratory control networks are going to be put on standby. The fact that among the measures tasked for the civil defense team will be a response to "disasters and fires" as well as the rehearsal of "radiation, chemical and biological protection", makes it clear that Russia is about to hold its biggest nuclear war drill since perhaps the end of the Cold War. Why now? Perhaps, in addition to the sharp deterioration in relations between Russia and the west, where tensions are on par with the cold war, another answer may come from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford, who last week warned Congress that the implementation of a No Fly Zone in Syria as proposed by John Kerry recently, and a centerpiece of Hillary’s foreign policy strategy, would result in World War III. During testimony before the Senate Committee on Armed Services last week General Joseph Dunford rang the alarm over a policy shift that is gaining more traction within the halls of Washington following the collapse of the ceasefire brokered by the United States and Russia in Syria saying that it could result in a major international war which he was not prepared to advocate on behalf of. Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi asked about Hillary Clinton’s proposal for a no fly zone in Syria in response to allegations that Russia and Syria have intensified their aerial bombardment of rebel-held East Aleppo since the collapse of the ceasefire. "What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped? What do you think of that option?" asked Wicker. "Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia. That is a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make," said the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggesting the policy was too hawkish even for military leaders. As a reminder, Hillary Clinton strongly argued in favor of a no fly zone ever since October 2015, just days after Russia began a bombing campaign aimed at maintaining the stability of the Syrian government. "I personally would be advocating now for a no fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees," said Clinton in an interview with NBC in October 2015. Despite the warnings, the former Secretary of State and current presidential candidate, who has a well-known hawkish position towards regime change and matters related to Russia, has continued to advocate this position which has gained traction in recent weeks among top US diplomats. Clinton is note alone: as the WSJ reported in June, more than 50 US diplomats endorsed a notorious dissent memo, demanding that that the Obama administration employ military options against Assad, such as the implementation of a no fly zone if not a direct attack against the Syrian regime. The argument from the diplomats is that the situation in Syria will continue to devolve without direct action by the US military, an argument of dubious legality if undertaken unilaterally without a UN Security Council resolution but which as Sputnik reports, the US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power has been laying the groundwork for under the controversial “right to protect” theory of international law arguing that Russia’s opposition to a resolution should be ignored because they are a party to the conflict. Russia, in turn, has countered that if the Assad regime falls then terrorist groups including ISIS and al-Nusra Front will likely fill the resulting power vacuum descending the country into an even greater harbor for international terrorism. Ultimately, the Syrian conflict is fundamentally about the transport of energy, and whether Russia maintains its dominance over European natural gas imports, or if - with the Syrian regime deposed - a Qatar natural gas pipeline can cross the territory and make its way to Europe. As for the Russian nuclear war drill, we can only hope that any such rising hints of nuclear warfare remain in the realm of the purely theoretical. The Russian govt site is here: http://en.mchs.ru/mass_media/news/item/32915549/ Obviously hoping this will settle quickly but it may escalate into a nightmare scenario. I feel the elections down in the US have become a distraction and people have become divided and blinded to what's going on around the world, and the mainstream media is not covering some very alarming stories. There are many other events going on around the world that are also very disturbing but I'm not going to post them all. People might say its "fear porn" and it will never happen but the people of Russia certainly don't think so. I hope people pay closer attention to what's going on in Syria and elsewhere. It's my view that the US is the aggressor and true sponsor of terrorism in this war (and elsewhere around the world) although others might disagree, but at least this gets the thinking caps on. It has been planned for months. Call your Russian friends and ask them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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