nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 I hope this post isn't deleted as being redundant of others. I would like to hear peoples opinions of who we actually need to protect in order not to risk losing them to another team. I see Burrows, Sutter, Dorsett and many others on peoples projected 23 man roster to open the season...when in fact, there isn't a chance in hell that any of these players would be claimed if placed on waivers. I'll make a quick list, and would be very interested in others opinions..... remember, this is not only based on the players ability, but their value with current contract/salary GUYS FEEL WOULD BE CLAIMED BY EVERY TEAM Bo Horvat ............... Chris Tanev............. Alex Edler............... Ben Hutton............. Janik Hansen.......... 2.5m very attractive Anton rodin.........prob most would be interested at that $$ Gudbranson.......100 percent w/only 1 yr left on reasonable contract Pedan.................Likely claimed GUYS WHO MAY BE CLAIMED BY SOME Trymakin................would be claimed w/that contract Gaunce...............attractive player Baertschi..............prob over 1/2 at 1 m Markstrom...............prob most Sedins....................TBH, not sure how many take on 7mil/yr x 2 (generously 50/50) Eriksson................not many (we were the only team on record willing to give him 6yrs @ 6m) Granlund................prob is better than some teams 12-13 fwd Larsen....................maybe GUYS I FEEL VERY DOUBTFUL WOULD BE CLAIMED Miller...doubt @ 6m(only 1 yr left helps him) Biega Sbisa @ 3.5 for multiple yrs GUYS I FEEL NO ONE WOULD CLAIM Burrows..........not a chance Dorsett...........not a chance Sutter @ 4.5 ...no way (i know this will upset people) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 hahaha Sutter not claimed. Thats some serious under appreciation and stupidity on your part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, RetroCanuck said: hahaha Sutter not claimed. Thats some serious under appreciation and stupidity on your part What team(s) do u feel would want Sutter at 4.5m for 5 years ? That's a lot of $$/term for a 3rd line C Entering his 9th season, he has 1 20g yr (played w/Crosby and Malkin on PP for part) How many other 9 yr vets w/1 20g year are making that kind of $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJDDawg Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Lock her up. Another troll thread by the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Just now, MJDDawg said: Lock her up. Another troll thread by the OP. Sad thing is it isn't a troll thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 33 minutes ago, nickels said: What team(s) do u feel would want Sutter at 4.5m for 5 years ? That's a lot of $$/term for a 3rd line C Entering his 9th season, he has 1 20g yr (played w/Crosby and Malkin on PP for part) How many other 9 yr vets w/1 20g year are making that kind of $$ Teams would claim Sutter, and trade their guy currently in that spot for more assets. For example, the Leafs would claim Sutter and then trade Kadri for picks. Sbisa would be claimed too, and the same scenario would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Respect your opinion....but, I would take Kadri over Sutter in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 "Sbisa would be claimed too, and the same scenario would happen." Then why don't we give him Edler or Huttons spot and trade them for picks ? 3.5 is a tuff # for a bottom pairing guy. (and i like Sbisa) I don't know the answer to this...but would Benning take a 3rd rounder(2nd ?) for Sbisa ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, nickels said: Respect your opinion....but, I would take Kadri over Sutter in a heartbeat. That's okay, but it's the concept that's important. There would be teams who claim Sutter, and then trade their current guy for assets. If Kadri returned a first, then it would be like trading him for Sutter and a first. (Only using Kadri for example purposes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 I think the people on this forum are very delusional in their perceived value of our players(as our probably most team sites). I think back to the Kassian proposals bandied about...when, in fact we had to throw in a pick to land Brandon Prust ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: That's okay, but it's the concept that's important. There would be teams who claim Sutter, and then trade their current guy for assets. If Kadri returned a first, then it would be like trading him for Sutter and a first. (Only using Kadri for example purposes). Leafs don't count as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Just now, nickels said: Leafs don't count as a team. oh yeh, I hate them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Careful OP If you post that canucks aren't going deep this year in the playoffs , many posters here will call you a troll or a Canuck hater. You are correct in pointing out that the Canucks have too many players signed to VERY poor contracts in both money and term. Benning has done some very shoddy work in the trades / contracts department. He better be a good drafter as his skills in the trading department / FA signing is pretty suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 Even if they were a real team...no way the Leaks take on 22m over 5 yrs for Sutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 20 minutes ago, ItsMillerTime said: Sad thing is it isn't a troll thread. Maybe, maybe not. Not much room for discussion as the thread starter quickly berates any contrary opinions. Might as well re-title the thread SBISA, SUTTER, AND DORSETT HAVE HORRIBLE CONTRACTS, AAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Careful OP If you post that canucks aren't going deep this year in the playoffs , many posters here will call you a troll or a Canuck hater. You are correct in pointing out that the Canucks have too many players signed to VERY poor contracts in both money and term. Benning has done some very shoddy work in the trades / contracts department. He better be a good drafter as his skills in the trading department / FA signing is pretty suspect. I should go to original post and high lite the Benning contacts in a different color. The majority would fall in the latter lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickels Posted October 5, 2016 Author Share Posted October 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, Wilbur said: Maybe, maybe not. Not much room for discussion as the thread starter quickly berates any contrary opinions. Might as well re-title the thread SBISA, SUTTER, AND DORSETT HAVE HORRIBLE CONTRACTS, AAAAAUUUUGGGGHHHH! Please show where I have berated anybody's opinions.... " Respect your opinion....but, I would take Kadri over Sutter in a heartbeat. ".....here ? "hahaha Sutter not claimed. Thats some serious under appreciation and stupidity on your part "....here ? (oh wait that wasn't my post) "Not much room for discussion as the thread starter quickly berates any contrary opinions.".......again...not me BTW....Sbisa, Sutter and Dorsett do have terrible contracts and for this reason would not be claimed IMO. That was kind of the point of the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Kneel Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Don't want to be pessimistic but kinda sad what happened to our presidents trophy club . Missing 2011 - wow how did we blow the transition..... What a run we had though.... I guess we have to hit rock bottom before we can start to climb back up.. Its always darkest before the dawn and all that crap... Part of a poem by by George Krokos - The sinking ship....... The old boat is going down as it has had its dayand all that we know and love is passing away.It seems strange and sad how this has come aboutbut the evidence is clear without a shadow of doubt.For those who have been prepared the way is certainbut for those who are not there's an invisible curtainbetween them and that to where they could be goingas the paths to that destination are not at all showing.There's been too many changes in a world gone madand so many of them have only turned out to be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 You want to know when things started to go terrible wrong... Look at this .... So sad..... Draft picks[edit] Vancouver's picks at the 2007 NHL Entry Draft in Columbus, Ohio.[1] Round # Player Nationality College/Junior/Club Team (League) 1 25 Patrick White (C) United States Tri-City Storm (USHL) 2 33 Taylor Ellington (D) Canada Everett Silvertips (WHL) 5 145 Charles-Antoine Messier (C) Canada Baie-Comeau Drakkar (QMJHL) 5 146 Ilya Kablukov (LW) Russia CKSA Moscow (RSL) 6 176 Taylor Matson (C) United States Des Moines Buccaneers (USHL) 7 206 Dan Gendur (RW) Canada Everett Silvertips (WHL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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