Provost Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 This came up, haven't seen any legit threads about the LA situation yet.http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Eklund/Rumors-Swirling-that-the-Kings-are-Talking-to-the-Penguins/1/80039 I don't see how it works at all with the cap situation of both teams. This is almost certainly just random pondering considering that Pittsburgh "could" give up a goalie and LA needs one. I have no idea how LA is going to get out of this particular mess with goalie situation and cap issues. They can't take on any decent goaltender because they don't have the cap room and Quick comes back in 3 months. Looking at their roster I don't see any real trade possibilities for freeing up space. They will have to find an upper level back up for around $2 million or less and then trade of waive them when (if) Quick returns. Good news for us though. Maybe they terminate Dustin Brown's contract for some vague personal hygiene concern and watch the NHL allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Why would LA go after a legit starter with term in Fleury? Makes 0 sense for me. I know Quick is out for a while, but a more experienced back up would be a better fit for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Detroit also has 2 goalie situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Vandelay Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Zero chance LA is looking at Fleury. They need a rental for 3-5 months. Not 3 years. If LA is looking for a goalie, best option would be NYI considering they have 3 goalies on the roster. Griess would be perfect for LA. If that site is going to make up rumours, at least make them plausible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stonecoldstevebernier Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Pavelec's probably a more likely option than Fleury. Winnipeg would have to take salary back, though. And if LA isn't interested in him then Arizona could be, depending on the severity of Smith's injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat James Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 We should really add a [Eklund] as a tag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 IMO If they are talking it's not about Murray or Fleury, it's about Condon. When MTL waived him in pre-season they expected him to clear and was hoping to keep him in the minor. At some point Pittsburgh will have to waive Condon back when Murray comes back and will lose him. LA could roll with Zatkoff and Condon until Quick comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Sign and trade coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 What a bunch of crap. He doesn't even try anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 buzzzzzzzzzzzzzed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neversummer Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 From Miller's point of view, do you think he will retire after this year or find a team where he can be the senior experienced backup? I mean if he agrees to LA and they want him, after this year, what next? Chances are Vancouver wouldn't sign him back unless it's just that senior experienced backup role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoosh Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 This would be an ideal time to move Miller for a good prospect or relatively high pick since there is a market for an experienced starter/backup guy and Miller fits the bill nicely. Except for the money tho. But we will need him this year if we wanna make the playoffs so I seriously doubt JB will move him. Not yet at least. Freakishly many starters out already so early. Murray, Price, Smith, Quick... even Korpisalo. Miller at the moment but he'll be back any day now of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 55 minutes ago, Spoosh said: This would be an ideal time to move Miller for a good prospect or relatively high pick since there is a market for an experienced starter/backup guy and Miller fits the bill nicely. Except for the money tho. But we will need him this year if we wanna make the playoffs so I seriously doubt JB will move him. Not yet at least. Freakishly many starters out already so early. Murray, Price, Smith, Quick... even Korpisalo. Miller at the moment but he'll be back any day now of course. In fantasyland (AKA CDC), this would be a great idea. Getting out of Miller's contract would be huge....for a rebuilding team. Problem is, this isn't a complete tear down. JB is slowly switching out/bringing in pieces, while remaining competetive. Last year would have been a competetive year had we not suffered so many injuries (just look at the difference Edler and Sutter have had). So as much as we would like to see a trade like this, there's just no way ownership/management let it happen and to their credit, things have gone pretty good so far despite them not doing a total tear down and caving to fan pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 30 minutes ago, VIC_CITY said: In fantasyland (AKA CDC), this would be a great idea. Getting out of Miller's contract would be huge....for a rebuilding team. Problem is, this isn't a complete tear down. JB is slowly switching out/bringing in pieces, while remaining competetive. Last year would have been a competetive year had we not suffered so many injuries (just look at the difference Edler and Sutter have had). So as much as we would like to see a trade like this, there's just no way ownership/management let it happen and to their credit, things have gone pretty good so far despite them not doing a total tear down and caving to fan pressure. I think it is "almost" zero, but greater than zero chance of it happening. LA would have to overpay pretty dramatically to get it done in the division AND because we actually still need Miller to avoid being in the same position they are if there is an injury. The deal would have to be a 1st rounder PLUS a sweetener for us eating a big chunk of Miller's salary, which is the only way it works for LA once Quick comes back. It actually works for us as we can get a solid back up that is maybe even signed to another year, that alllows Demko to get the extra year in the AHL that is expected and Markstrom to get more starts over the next two years. Pavelec, Greiss, or Berra are much more likely candidates for LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 7 hours ago, The Game said: We should really add a [Eklund] as a tag. We unofficially have that. But what I don't get is with any HockeyBuzz link, no one ever posts an excerpt - like the rumour is so bad it's not even worth copy/pasting. How do we discuss a rumour we don't even know the context of? (I'm not clicking a link to HockeyBuzz) But yeah, no idea if that'd fly. The Pens don't have a goalie that's an improvement for LA, at least one that fits in a move. Fleury has too much contract for LA, and Murray just re-signed. They need an established goalie on a short contract (they might not find cheap) they can move on from after the year's done. They also need that goalie for a cheap return, since they've stated they aren't looking to pay a big return to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Short term, Miller makes perfect sense, he can keep the Kings in it until Quick can make it back, that leaves them with a 3rd wheel until either TD or end of year when Millers contract expires and he hits market. Miller has already shown he's competitive and has plenty of game left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIC_CITY Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I would be 100% ok with going all in on Markstrom if a deal could be worked out for Miller. Markstrom is signed for 3 years so he's going to be our guy. It's not a matter of if, but rather when. If LA can put together a package of Adrian Kempe and Jonny Brodzinski for Miller with Salary retained, JB has to seriously look at it. I know ownership wants that playoff revenue but that would be huge for our rebuild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quantum Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 LA may want to acquire Condon? Pittsburgh picked him up to fill in for Murray as he recovered from injury. With Murray's return immanent, it makes sense that the Penguins will want to try and move Condon since he can't really be sent down... But... Can the Penguins trade Condon so quickly after claiming him on waivers? Not sure how that works. Although, trading for Fleury is smart. If the Kings were to trade for him, they'd do so obviously expecting to expose him to waivers... And hopefully make Las Vegas ignore LA's other more tantalizing waiver exposed players look less appealing. Essentially making Fleury a one year rental player with a multi year deal? An expansion rental... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhorvat Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 Just roll with what they got...they know thr not makn the playoffs this season anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 2 hours ago, Quantum said: LA may want to acquire Condon? Pittsburgh picked him up to fill in for Murray as he recovered from injury. With Murray's return immanent, it makes sense that the Penguins will want to try and move Condon since he can't really be sent down... But... Can the Penguins trade Condon so quickly after claiming him on waivers? Not sure how that works. Although, trading for Fleury is smart. If the Kings were to trade for him, they'd do so obviously expecting to expose him to waivers... And hopefully make Las Vegas ignore LA's other more tantalizing waiver exposed players look less appealing. Essentially making Fleury a one year rental player with a multi year deal? An expansion rental... Nope. And he's not a significant enough upgrade over who they already have to make it worthwhile giving up anything useful for him. LA doesn't need a long term starter. They need someone who won't cost a lot to get and doesn't take a big chunks of cap, but will be able to handle the load for a few months then be gone by the end of the year. Miller's cap is too much and we'd probably ask for too much in return, but we could retain salary (although that'd increase the return price probably) and his contract is done after this year. He fits in some ways but not in others. Someone like Griess from the Islanders makes much more sense. Ironically, the Isles other backup after Halak is Berube, who came over from LA when he got picked up on waivers last season. He's been stuck as the 3rd goalie in their system, not playing much but could be a better option than certainly Budaj and Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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