Johnny Torts Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm sure most of you saw those big hits made on Larsen last night. Another classic example of the so called "tough guys" taking a run at the smaller guys. In similar instances, we see guys backing off of Guddy and poke checking him. What happened, their jewels drop or something? I for for one did not appreciate that one hit because clearly it was 3 full strides and the player left off his feet to crush Larsen. Is the league not looking at that or the burrows hit? Lets put Tryamkin, Pedan, Gudbranson, Labate, Skille, Virtanen ( the Virtanen that hits ) into these games against LA and ANA and see them try to run our players like that again. I did appreciate Skille trying to "talk" to one of their players after the whistle, but in those instances you grab that weasel and you put him on the ground. Do what Chara did, grabbed the offender and just pinned him to the ground because he knew that he would destroy the guy in fistacuffs. Theres no room for a player like Stecher or Larsen in this line up if we won't stand up for them. And I'm q big fan of Stecher. This team has the ability to come back from games but don't toss around the word "heart" when we see things like this happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 They needed to dress Tryamkin against the Kings and Ducks, plain and simple. Willie's gotta realize that there's a time a place for the skilled defenders, and against heavy teams isn't one of them. Even at less than 100% fitness, Tryamkin's size provides an intimidation factor. Not to mention his stick work would probably prevented a few shots against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: They needed to dress Tryamkin against the Kings and Ducks, plain and simple. Willie's gotta realize that there's a time a place for the skilled defenders, and against heavy teams isn't one of them. Even at less than 100% fitness, Tryamkin's size provides an intimidation factor. Not to mention his stick work would probably prevented a few shots against. Yeah I completely agree with this comment. What's the point of having great depth in D, if you are never going to use your depth when needed? He would have been more useful than Sbisa against Anaheim, in particular because it was the latter of the back-to-back. It was a good chance to give some of the banged up defenders a rest. I think rotating the bottom pairing depending on your opponent is a good way to prevent injuries to the backend and to have fresh legs for every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguez Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 It's called being smart. If a team wants to put a small guy on defense I'd be getting my guys to run him all night. Get him gunshy so he turns the puck over. It also frustrates the big man when you won't engage him physically. Well played game by the Ducks. Canucks need to learn how to deal with it..and fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Same old same old with the Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I'm pretty sure Canucks brass knows this, which speaks volumes as to why they didn't dress Tryamkin. He has an opportunity with this team, but if he want's to be a part of it, then he needs to act like it, which means being ready. You dress a player like that during one of his tantrums, then you invite more poor behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 22 minutes ago, Johnny Torts said: Lets put Tryamkin, Pedan, Gudbranson, Labate, Skille, Virtanen ( the Virtanen that hits ) into these games against LA and ANA and see them try to run our players like that again. Amen to that. Did you see Carter push Daniel and try to act like a complete tough guy, just because he's team is full of total dirty players? Yet, never will he try that will Gudbranson or even get on the ice with him. Put them all in and pound them down. Don't care if we win, it's about sending a message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 2 minutes ago, khay said: Yeah I completely agree with this comment. What's the point of having great depth in D, if you are never going to use your depth when needed? He would have been more useful than Sbisa against Anaheim, in particular because it was the latter of the back-to-back. It was a good chance to give some of the banged up defenders a rest. I think rotating the bottom pairing depending on your opponent is a good way to prevent injuries to the backend and to have fresh legs for every game. Benning must be shaking his head at Willie. He provided him solid depth on D, and he's not taking advantage of it. Philip Larsen should not be penciled in permanently as a number 6. He should be like Weber last year, where he rotates in and out depending on the matchup. It's obvious where he excels and where he struggles, Willie's gotta learn his limits. And taking on big forwards is one of those limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 If you were attacking a tough fortress and you knew the south wall was weak, would you attack the north wall to show how tough you are? No, you exploit the weakness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, PLOGUE said: It's called being smart. If a team wants to put a small guy on defense I'd be getting my guys to run him all night. Get him gunshy so he turns the puck over. It also frustrates the big man when you won't engage him physically. Well played game by the Ducks. Canucks need to learn how to deal with it..and fast. The point is we let them take runs all game at our smaller guys. If you try that against the Jets, the whole team will jump you. Also, if we have a chance to destroy Fowler, we let up and give them a great scoring chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimberWolf Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 3 minutes ago, Blueberries said: The point is we let them take runs all game at our smaller guys. If you try that against the Jets, the whole team will jump you. Also, if we have a chance to destroy Fowler, we let up and give them a great scoring chance. If we take liberties on their small guys, they attack our first line that's not mobile enough to avoid it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueberries Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 1 minute ago, TimberWolf said: If we take liberties on their small guys, they attack our first line that's not mobile enough to avoid it They do that already. However, they won't try it when everyone comes in to protect and stand up for the leaders of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Just now, DeNiro said: They needed to dress Tryamkin against the Kings and Ducks, plain and simple. Willie's gotta realize that there's a time a place for the skilled defenders, and against heavy teams isn't one of them. Even at less than 100% fitness, Tryamkin's size provides an intimidation factor. Not to mention his stick work would probably prevented a few shots against. I agree, with heavy hitter teams like the Kings and Ducks especially back to back, you'd want to counter that by inserting heavy hitting players like Tryamkin. Yeah he may not be where he needs to be with his fitness but at least it adds that intimidating factor as well as his reach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Fivehole0 Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 10 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Benning must be shaking his head at Willie. He provided him solid depth on D, and he's not taking advantage of it. Philip Larsen should not be penciled in permanently as a number 6. He should be like Weber last year, where he rotates in and out depending on the matchup. It's obvious where he excels and where he struggles, Willie's gotta learn his limits. And taking on big forwards is one of those limits. Agreed. I'm a Willie D fan, but he is not utilizing the tremendous depth we have on D. We can dress our D in accordance to our match ups. Anaheim and LA are no place for Larsen. That being said, Larsen had 3?4? points in those two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Early in the season folks. Until last night we were undefeated in regulation. We're still tied for 2nd overall in the entire league....and people are criticizing Willy's player management. Come'on, at least wait until we are sub-.500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 20 minutes ago, DeNiro said: They needed to dress Tryamkin against the Kings and Ducks, plain and simple. Willie's gotta realize that there's a time a place for the skilled defenders, and against heavy teams isn't one of them. Even at less than 100% fitness, Tryamkin's size provides an intimidation factor. Not to mention his stick work would probably prevented a few shots against. Who would you have taken out? Sbisa? Larsen? I am all for getting Tram into the lineup but just gifting him a spot because of his size I am not a fan of. Larsen and Sbisa (for the most part) have played well. AND THE TEAM HADNT LOST A GAME. That would be a punch in the face to Sbisa or Larsen. So NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted October 24, 2016 Author Share Posted October 24, 2016 5 minutes ago, ReggieBush said: Who would you have taken out? Sbisa? Larsen? I am all for getting Tram into the lineup but just gifting him a spot because of his size I am not a fan of. Larsen and Sbisa (for the most part) have played well. AND THE TEAM HADNT LOST A GAME. That would be a punch in the face to Sbisa or Larsen. So NO. No, Sbisa is one of the few players hitting. We had a dman playing forward last night in Biega, it's politics I understand. We need to get his games in. But when Sedin suffers a concussion because our enemies knew we won't do ANYTHING about it, then what? The Sedins are not getting any younger. We need Tryamkin here. We knew we were headed into California but we weren't prepped for a beat down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 25 minutes ago, DeNiro said: Benning must be shaking his head at Willie. He provided him solid depth on D, and he's not taking advantage of it. Philip Larsen should not be penciled in permanently as a number 6. He should be like Weber last year, where he rotates in and out depending on the matchup. It's obvious where he excels and where he struggles, Willie's gotta learn his limits. And taking on big forwards is one of those limits. You expect WD to "learn" this? This is a guy who has since day one, pigeon-holed Bo into a shut down, 200' defensive center role. He's stubborn and appears very slow to adjust to what is happening on the ice. If he has decided Tryamkin is not his cup of tea, he will not put him out there unless JB makes him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 13 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Early in the season folks. Until last night we were undefeated in regulation. We're still tied for 2nd overall in the entire league....and people are criticizing Willy's player management. Come'on, at least wait until we are sub-.500. It's a case of being pro-active instead of re-active. WD knows what those Cali teams are going to play like. Is it better to ice players who can deal with that and turn the tables on them or risk losing your smaller, talented and tired d man just because you have had a bit of a good run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 One game so far well two so we all hope Willie has learned that he needs size VS size If not I agree Benning will more then likely have words with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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