Rick Blight Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, higgyfan said: Pretty much. Every team in the league will have players left exposed, so there's bound to be some better choices than what the Canucks have on the table. In the end, the team will lose 1 player; (Sbisa, Biega or Gaunce ) which won't hurt the team that much. That said, I think Hansen will be traded (unfortunately) at the deadline if they need to protect an extra player). The only teams that will be bringing in new players are the contenders (who wouldn't want Hansen for a cup run?); all the other teams will be trying to get something for players that they can't protect. Not sure why you believe we will lose one of those three players specifically. It looks like we will only be able to protect one of Hansen, Granlund, Gaunce and Rodin amongst our forwards so I am not sure why you list only Gaunce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilbur Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 hour ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Canucks will have a tough decision not only this expansion draft but the next one too. Especially on Defence. Heh, that's a good problem to have. Means you have lots of players worth protecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, LaBamba said: The last time we sold at the trade deadline (I can't even really recall) I had a full head of hair. I don't know why but win or lose we just don't trade players away for picks at the deadline. It's either player for player, or we buy players with picks. We would have to be in that 65 point range everyone predicted for us to be trading players for picks. I honestly wonder if the Aquilini ownership is related to this cause it's not like we haven't had the opportunities. Maybe. But the expansion draft changes the parameter. I can't see JB giving away Hansen like some people are suggesting, but on the other hand, they may want to hang onto one of the unprotected players. Of course it's too early to tell if any of these players will be worth protecting (at the expense of losing Honey Badger). 5 minutes ago, Rick Blight said: Not sure why you believe we will lose one of those three players specifically. It looks like we will only be able to protect one of Hansen, Granlund, Gaunce and Rodin amongst our forwards so I am not sure why you list only Gaunce. Protected: Sedin, Sedin, Erik, Bo, Baer, Sutts, Hansen Rodin will be an UFA Trade Hansen protect either Granny or Gaunce; whomever looks to be the best player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 No need to reinvent the wheel on this, it's been discussed a fair bit over the summer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 never know JB might make a deal to keep a player we have and give them something back like a minor and pick which has happened in the past entry drafts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 24 minutes ago, higgyfan said: Maybe. But the expansion draft changes the parameter. I can't see JB giving away Hansen like some people are suggesting, but on the other hand, they may want to hang onto one of the unprotected players. Of course it's too early to tell if any of these players will be worth protecting (at the expense of losing Honey Badger). Protected: Sedin, Sedin, Erik, Bo, Baer, Sutts, Hansen Rodin will be an UFA Trade Hansen protect either Granny or Gaunce; whomever looks to be the best player. I believe Rodin will be a RFA but, in any event, he will be available to be picked by Las Vegas whether he is a RFA or UFA. Vegas is only mandated to select at least 20 players currently under contract as per the published draft rules. * The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Just now, Rick Blight said: I believe Rodin will be a RFA but, in any event, he will be available to be picked by Las Vegas whether he is a RFA or UFA. Vegas is only mandated to select at least 20 players currently under contract as per the published draft rules. * The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season Rodin will be a UFA - he is still marked as an RFA but it's unlikely that he will be able to play 80 NHL games this season. He's in the same situation as Kenins - three years under an NHL contract (this is the 3rd year) and needs to have played 80 NHL games at age 25 to remain an RFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, mll said: Rodin will be a UFA - he is still marked as an RFA but it's unlikely that he will be able to play 80 NHL games this season. He's in the same situation as Kenins - three years under an NHL contract (this is the 3rd year) and needs to have played 80 NHL games at age 25 to remain an RFA. Good catch. Guess the only way he will not be UFA is if he is re-signed before they submit their protected list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Phooey Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 3 hours ago, drummerboy said: This^^^^ all the info about how this works is all very easy to find and understand. OP doesn't have any grasp on it, and threads like this send the less informed people into a frenzy of ignorance. Games played, plays a huge role in who you have to protect. We will walk out of this fine. True that^^^. It's the ignorant leading the ignorant...the blind leading the blind. At worst, the Canucks will lose one player in the expansion draft. The players of consequence that will be exposed are as laid out succinctly by Forsberg. Not much to get to worried about, other than having to choose between Hansen and Granlund. My guess is that the Canucks are going to lose either Sbisa OR Dorsett (i.e., the type of players that traditionally have appealed to expansion teams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Forwards: Daniel, Henrik, Eriksson must be protected. Sutter, Horvat have too much value and will be protected. That leaves two players to be protected from Baertschi, Granlund, Hansen, Rodin, and Gaunce. Defence: Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson. Hutton and Tryamkin are exempt. So Sbisa, Larsen, Biega will be unprotected. Goalie: Bachman If we are not going to keep Hansen, we should trade him and get some value. But I would like us to keep him. He brings so much speed that just is hard to replace. Unless Granlund completely outperforms Baertschi, I think it's Baertschi that does not get protected. Gaunce will also be exposed. Ideally, they take Sbisa or Larsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I feel that if Hansen is unprotected, he is taken in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyHarry Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Every team must loose 1 player to this expansion draft. It all depends on who the Knights take from other teams. I think picking from the Canucks roster is low on the Knights list of teams to pick from right now, but it all depends on how good our season is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 people overlook the tried and true method to ensure a player you are forced to expose is not selected a draft pick can be sent to the new las vegas franchise to not pick hansen/granlund if either need to be exposed this has been the most frequent method to keeping all the players you wish despite an expansion draft happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 2 hours ago, Rick Blight said: Not sure why you believe we will lose one of those three players specifically. It looks like we will only be able to protect one of Hansen, Granlund, Gaunce and Rodin amongst our forwards so I am not sure why you list only Gaunce. 1 hour ago, Rick Blight said: I believe Rodin will be a RFA but, in any event, he will be available to be picked by Las Vegas whether he is a RFA or UFA. Vegas is only mandated to select at least 20 players currently under contract as per the published draft rules. * The Las Vegas franchise must select a minimum of 20 players who are under contract for the 2017-18 season Given they HAVE to pick 20 players under contract, leaving a few guys as RFA/UFA until after the expansion draft will offer some level of protection. Gaunce and Rodin would all fall under that category so don't expect them to be re-signed before the draft. I still think one of Baer/Granlund/Rodin is gone via trade at some point anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.Am.Ironman Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 4 hours ago, LaBamba said: The last time we sold at the trade deadline (I can't even really recall) I had a full head of hair. I don't know why but win or lose we just don't trade players away for picks at the deadline. It's either player for player, or we buy players with picks. We would have to be in that 65 point range everyone predicted for us to be trading players for picks. I honestly wonder if the Aquilini ownership is related to this cause it's not like we haven't had the opportunities. Was it when we traded Mogilny to Devils for BMO and.... Was it Peterson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 The defence list is pretty easy: we protect Edler, Tanev & Gudbranson. Trade Sbisa (or leave him unprotected), give Biega 20-odd games this season so he meets our qualification criteria and leave him unprotected. We don't need to protect Hutton or Tryamkin. This leaves us exposing Larsen, Biega & Pedan (who we will extend). In the forwards, the thing is more complicated than it looks, but these guys are definitely going to be protected: Sedin, Sedin, Horvat,Erickson, Hansen & Sutter. The last slot is likely going to be Baertschi, but it will come down to Baertschi, Granlund & Gaunce. We will definitely expose Dorsett and two of the above 3. Either way, its most likely going to be one of Larsen, Granlund & Gaunce picked, with my bet being Larsen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 i wouldnt worry bout expansion alot of trades will happen on teams that dont wanna lose certain assets if im benning i trade burrows, miller at deadline for max values even if they have to retain cap this season burrows and miller money next yr go to horvat, hutton and guddy extensions tanev, hansen, sbisa, granlund, gaunce, baetchi, rodin, dorsett - two to three of these guys could be packaged for a 30-40 goal scorer next season sedin sedin eriksson sniper horvat boeser rodin sutter virtanen labate gaunce dorsett granlund edler stecher hutton guddy juolevi tryamkin pedan miller demko or ufa backup what kinda sniper and young d right handed d prospect can we get for hansen tanev baertchi package lose one of sbisa or dorsett or biega or granlund to expansion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I honestly couldn't tell you it's been so long that I can't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drsofthands Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 why would we protect the sedins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, drsofthands said: why would we protect the sedins? I typed up 2 or 3 answers to this post, erased them all as being too mean so I'll exit now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.