cuporbust Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 So , herd his latest interview today , and virtanen seems to be very unhappy with willie s line juggling and ice time allotment. Some highlights : " when you dont know who you are going to play with its hard to get going. When ur on the ice for 7 minutes a game its hard to get into a groove. The lines seen to change nightly somtimes. Play a shift then sit for 12 minutes makes it hard. Doesnt understand why he s not playing with baer and horvat. Knows he has to earn it , but not happy at all being shifted around , not being able to develope proper chemistry. Willie " put the guys on the ice he thought he could win with" I was actually shocked at how candid he waz. I think everyone was. Not really a good sighn in the jake virtanen saga. 1040 talked about this allot today obviously. Some suggested he shouldnt have said that , some think he was bang on and had the right , some also thought its a product of the team having no clue what direction they are really going in and need to focus on developement not " winning now and try and develope at the same time. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, cuporbust said: So , herd his latest interview today , and virtanen seems to be very unhappy with willie s line juggling and ice time allotment. Some highlights : " when you dont know who you are going to play with its hard to get going. When ur on the ice for 7 minutes a game its hard to get into a groove. The lines seen to change nightly somtimes. Play a shift then sit for 12 minutes makes it hard. Doesnt understand why he s not playing with baer and horvat. Knows he has to earn it , but not happy at all being shifted around , not being able to develope proper chemistry. Willie " put the guys on the ice he thought he could win with" I was actually shocked at how candid he waz. I think everyone was. Not really a good sighn in the jake virtanen saga. 1040 talked about this allot today obviously. Some suggested he shouldnt have said that , some think he was bang on and had the right , some also thought its a product of the team having no clue what dirrection they are really going in and need to focus on developement not " winning now and try and develope at the same time. Thoughts? Canucks forwards right now really seem to be is disarray. Hopefully the forwards can play a solid 60 min game next time. Really need to see line 1 and 2 start to pick up the pace and get some scoring.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Canucks forwards right now really seem to be is disarray. Hopefully the forwards can play a solid 60 min game next time. Really need to see line 1 and 2 start to pick up the pace and get some scoring.. I agree. I think its good jake is pissed to be honest. I hope they actually give him some rope for longer then a game or two. Im willing to bet it wasnt just him being annoyed with the coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 WD is worse than AV when it comes to line juggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Well he is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Men that Bo and Jake difference is so big, but I think Jakes reaction is how most people would feel, maybe even Bo felt that way. I don't think Jake in a place to complain, he does play really really short shifts compare to all the players we have even brendan gaunce and skille stays out for atleast awhile, might be the translation from you but he sounded whiny. Somebody should tell him there's the AHL if he wants to be playing atleast 15 mins a game, sure they're losing but hey they're developing. Green is also highly touted around here so he won't be someone difficult to understood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 He's not wrong, but saying the things he's said would lead you to believe he's more comfortable with certain linemates over others. He's looked the same no matter who he's played with. Like trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, RRypien37 said: WD is worse than AV when it comes to line juggling. its only bad when your fave player is in the 3rd or 4rth line or your hated player is on the 2nd or 1st line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, b3. said: Well he is right. 100% They better not screw up this developement class. I dont give a flying V about playoffs this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Dizzle Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Calling out your coach as a young player is a bad idea, and Jake should can it and earn it. .....But he does make some valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoneypuckOverlord Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 He has a point. He's sticking with the big time, but he's barely playing. If he's not ready they might as well put him in Utica were he will get huge ice time. I'm sure they can use a guy like him right about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSecretIsMe Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 If we leave out the concept of political correctness when casting judgement on what he says here you may understand his perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 4 minutes ago, BlackBeard said: Men that Bo and Jake difference is so big, but I think Jakes reaction is how most people would feel, maybe even Bo felt that way. I don't think Jake in a place to complain, he does play really really short shifts compare to all the players we have even brendan gaunce and skille stays out for atleast awhile, might be the translation from you but he sounded whiny. Somebody should tell him there's the AHL if he wants to be playing atleast 15 mins a game, sure they're losing but hey they're developing. Green is also highly touted around here so he won't be someone difficult to understood. I herd the bo interview as well about the 4th line placement before game one. Donny noticed that when they asked if he was shocked he wasnt playing with baer he sorta paused. He said he was lookijg forward to playing with baer because they had chemistry and was exoecting to play with him , but then took the high ground and did a good job of pumping up his new linemates. U could tell he wasnt thrilled thoiugh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 22 minutes ago, cuporbust said: So , herd his latest interview today , and virtanen seems to be very unhappy with willie s line juggling and ice time allotment. Some highlights : " when you dont know who you are going to play with its hard to get going. When ur on the ice for 7 minutes a game its hard to get into a groove. The lines seen to change nightly somtimes. Play a shift then sit for 12 minutes makes it hard. Doesnt understand why he s not playing with baer and horvat. Knows he has to earn it , but not happy at all being shifted around , not being able to develope proper chemistry. Willie " put the guys on the ice he thought he could win with" I was actually shocked at how candid he waz. I think everyone was. Not really a good sighn in the jake virtanen saga. 1040 talked about this allot today obviously. Some suggested he shouldnt have said that , some think he was bang on and had the right , some also thought its a product of the team having no clue what dirrection they are really going in and need to focus on developement not " winning now and try and develope at the same time. Thoughts? Jake is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Lidster is doing well with the D. Jarvis some good neutral zone and PP ideas. Willie? All he needs to do is leave Loui with the twins, Baer-Bo-Jake together, and juggle the bottom 6 depending on the night for speed or toughness. But no, now we have issues with all our young players due to WDs goofy deployment. At least thats how I see it. Jake is right. And so is Willie - he said the NHL isn't a "development league" and he's doing all he can to make that a reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliewud Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Why is management rushing this kid? He should have been in utica LAST YEAR and now look what's happening. Way to go JB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Lots of tension behind the door with this club. Tryamkin jake I'd bet there a much longer list that aren't happy with the current coach. Times almost up for willie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 15 minutes ago, b3. said: Well he is right. But is it acceptable for a struggling 20 year old with clear entitlement issues to act the way he just did, even if he may be right about the coach's flaws? Imagine if every struggling player just blamed the coach. That would set a great example for young players in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuporbust Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 Pretty good chance he is heading to utica now i bet. Either that , or he gets his wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jam126 Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 7 minutes ago, Oliewud said: Why is management rushing this kid? He should have been in utica LAST YEAR and now look what's happening. Way to go JB! One problem. He couldn't go to Utica last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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