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1 minute ago, Alflives said:

I agree.  Keep the Twins, Bo, Sutter, Stecher, Gudbranson, and Hutton.  Trade the rest for picks - Prospects.

Pretty much that group along with the future core. Everyone else should be on the block. 

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Just now, Pears said:

Pretty much that group along with the future core. Everyone else should be on the block. 

TO and Edmonton are both fun teams to watch now.  Edmonton took forever to get to this point, but the Leafs did this in only a couple years of Shanahan's management group.  We need to rip it back to the studs.

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57 minutes ago, Alflives said:

the Leafs did this in only a couple years of Shanahan's management group.  We need to rip it back to the studs.

Missing the post-season 10 of the past 11 seasons helped TO get where they are right now as well.  we've only missed 4 playoffs out of the past 15 seasons ,  we've had it reasonably good for the past decade and a half if you think about it.   Are we Chi ,  no.  But we've certainly been far better than Edm /Cgy /To . 

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2 minutes ago, PlanB said:

Missing the post-season 10 of the past 11 seasons helped TO get where they are right now as well.  we've only missed 4 playoffs out of the past 15 seasons ,  we've had it reasonably good for the past decade and a half if you think about it.   Are we Chi ,  no.  But we've certainly been far better than Edm /Cgy /To . 

Sorry PB,  but most people here don't care about the past decade - you're dealing with a bunch of "whadda u done for me lately " people.   In their minds  ( not mine mind you ) losing streak means get rid of everyone except Hutton,  Boeser and Demko.

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11 minutes ago, PlanB said:

Missing the post-season 10 of the past 11 seasons helped TO get where they are right now as well.  we've only missed 4 playoffs out of the past 15 seasons ,  we've had it reasonably good for the past decade and a half if you think about it.   Are we Chi ,  no.  But we've certainly been far better than Edm /Cgy /To . 

10.5/11*. Remember they only made it in a half season. 

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We are a bunch of schmucks watching the games from our couches and we know sbisa isnt a top 4 dman,  what makes anyone think Montreal can be duped by a) taking him  and his contract and  b ) parting with a good young player for him?

 

The offence on the Canucks is treacherous.  One way to fast track the rebuild of the O is to trade a good asset on Defence.  That guy, in my mind, would be Tanev.  We dont know if Stecher can replace him, at this point, but it may be worth the gamble if you can get a proven top 6 forward back - not a Baertschi like project, not a guy we hope pans out in 3 years, a proven guy that is under 25.

 

I dont know enough about Montreal to know who would be expendable from their roster.

 

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1 hour ago, PlanB said:

Missing the post-season 10 of the past 11 seasons helped TO get where they are right now as well.  we've only missed 4 playoffs out of the past 15 seasons ,  we've had it reasonably good for the past decade and a half if you think about it.   Are we Chi ,  no.  But we've certainly been far better than Edm /Cgy /To . 

Shanahan has been there only three seasons.  The previous years the Leafs were trying the model JB is currently using.  I really believe some fans of our team are afraid of the proper rebuild.

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They have Weber and Petry on the right side already. It has to be a left sided D they are looking for.

 

Edler would be a good a fit. The minutes won't be a problem. Weber probably plays a couple of mins more per game but you Edler can be rested on the PP and the minutes would be much easier when you're not defending the whole time. In terms of the cap they will need to send some back. I'm not sure about their prospects situation. But all this don't matter if Benning (or realistically the owners) don't embrace the rebuild.

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3 hours ago, gurn said:

"Edler would be a good a fit. '

 

 

NTC.

 

What about it? I'm talking about whether he would be fit a their team and not whether he would waive his NTC. He has every right to not do so. Many players have waived. Should we exclude all players with nmc/ntc from trade discussions now?

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I think Edler for De La Rose and a 1st likely in the 20-30 range would be a fair deal. Edler Weber would be formidable 2 huge shots and I think the opportunity to play second fiddle to Weber would be incentive enough for him to waive and get out of this fishbowl.

 

Talent Analysis

De La Rose's defensive-minded style of hockey has earned him time with the Canadiens, appearing in 33 games last season and playing on a line with Lars Eller, in a shut-down role with the team. While he's not the fastest skater on the team, he's very mobile and fluid, with an excellent pivot that allows him to cover a large part of the ice. His ability to read a play and cut off passing lanes is top-notch. There's not much production value to De La Rose's style, but that is primarily based on his deployment in defensive-zone starts and being faced with tough assignments as a 19-year-old.

 

Future

De La Rose was expected to challenge for a spot with the Canadiens in training camp after playing key minutes for Montreal during the 2015 playoffs. Instead, he opened the 2015-16 season with AHL affiliate St. John's before eventually being recalled in January 2015. Capable of playing on the wing and at center, de la Rose has an advanced understanding of the defensive game for a player his age. He should slot into either a third or fourth line role for Montreal and should begin to contribute offensively as he gains more experience.


Read more at http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/jacob-de-la-rose/#2w3ufDd5vgWIR0bg.99

 

Scouting Report

Assets:
Has a very projectable frame and some two-way upside. Works hard, is versatile enough to play both center and wing, is aggressive in the corners and can also produce points.
Flaws:
The jury is still out on his ability to produce points at the highest level. Also, he could stand to get physically stronger in order to maximize output in North America.
Career Potential:
Versatile forward with a little upside.

 

 

Next seasons Lineup

 

Sedinz Hansen

Baer Bo Boeser

Granlund Sutter Rodin

Gaunce  De La Rose Virtanen

 

The way I see it 2x middle of the pack 1st lines one 2nd line and a 3rd  De La Rose is the perfect line mate for Virtanen and Gaunce to become a skilled and stiff 3rd line to play against and give other teams top lines fits.

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, Darius71 said:

We are a bunch of schmucks watching the games from our couches and we know sbisa isnt a top 4 dman,  what makes anyone think Montreal can be duped by a) taking him  and his contract and  b ) parting with a good young player for him?

Well, the organization did trade for Scott Gomez :lol:

 

I know different GM?management etc but that's a historic blunder to be tagged to a franchise

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7 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Well, the organization did trade for Scott Gomez :lol:

 

I know different GM?management etc but that's a historic blunder to be tagged to a franchise

The Habs, as stated by Elliot Friedman during HNIC, are looking for a top four Dman to take minutes from 

Shea Weber.  They would want Tanev, who plays the right side.  Sbisa plays the left side.  

 

Tanev for ?

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27 minutes ago, Alflives said:

The Habs, as stated by Elliot Friedman during HNIC, are looking for a top four Dman to take minutes from 

Shea Weber.  They would want Tanev, who plays the right side.  Sbisa plays the left side.  

 

Tanev for ?

Shea plays right side why would they want Tanev when Edler makes them a double threat for that blast. with everyone covering Weber Edler could work that shot like a boss.

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22 hours ago, Fanuck said:

I don't disagree with you.   But McCarron fits JB's description of a rugged,  versatile,  gritty scoring forward to perfection.

Surly JB could turn around and pick up a useful stop-gap defenceman with Edlers vacated salary. 

I am not familiar with McCarron but even if he just has hockey gear I would move edler for him or any other warm body for that matter.

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2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

McCarron doesn't bring anything we don't already have in our forward group other than maybe size.

 

We need dynamic offensive players IMO.

 

To a point you might be right. Really you are. Its not a simple answer though.

 

A Dave Andreychuck never hurt any team he was on.  McCarron is a bit like that? Always attracted attention in front of the net. Big ass & soft hands. Which created space for the type of skill player you speak of. And also had a knack for tapping in those skill players shots, burying their rebounds. Even snapping in the odd shot himself from further out than 15 feet?

 

Its worth remembering, we currently don't have a single 200lb top 6 forward either.

 

A good player who cannot be stopped because he is a physical handful? Might be just as handy as a good player who is hard to stop because he has wicked agility???

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