nucklehead Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/abbotsford-stabbing-charges-1.3833589 Quote Gabriel Klein, 21, was charged today with second-degree murder and aggravated assault. Police said Wednesday Klein was of "no fixed address" and had been seen frequenting various areas in the Lower Mainland for the past few months. They said he may be from Alberta. Police said they will release a photo of Klein later today, and ask anyone who has recently been in touch with him to contact police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Devastating for the victims, families and communities. With that said, it could have been a lot worse if the accused had been wielding a gun instead of a knife. Just another quiet example of something that could have been much, much worse if it had taken place in the United States. Happy to live in a country that takes these types of crime seriously and amends their laws and rights accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 10 minutes ago, Fateless said: Devastating for the victims, families and communities. With that said, it could have been a lot worse if the accused had been wielding a gun instead of a knife. Just another quiet example of something that could have been much, much worse if it had taken place in the United States. Happy to live in a country that takes these types of crime seriously and amends their laws and rights accordingly. Thoughts and prayers to all affected by this... There's a gofundme page setup: https://www.gofundme.com/support-for-victims-of-abby-senior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 No fixed address? homeless? So was it just some random attack? I'm guessing some type of mental health issues if that's the case. edit: yup, looks like some homeless dude that seemed to have no connection to either of the victims. Very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookieeater55 Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Wtf...... in his 20s?!?!? Man I'm sick to my stomach plz hang him by his n*ts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Shouldn't be an issue convicting him for murder and send him to jail. Hopefully he gets shanked multiple times in his cell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, JV77 said: Shouldn't be an issue convicting him for murder and send him to jail. Hopefully he gets shanked multiple times in his cell... Why would you hope that e: and everything in the article implies severe mental illness. The guy leaves his province, runs around the lower mainland without an address for a bunch of months and then stabs people he has no connection to? I don't know too much about our judicial system and all the details aren't out, but imo he's likely to end up in a psychiatric facility, not a prison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 40 minutes ago, One one two said: Why would you hope that e: and everything in the article implies severe mental illness. The guy leaves his province, runs around the lower mainland without an address for a bunch of months and then stabs people he has no connection to? I don't know too much about our judicial system and all the details aren't out, but imo he's likely to end up in a psychiatric facility, not a prison Agreed. Very sad all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, One one two said: Why would you hope that e: and everything in the article implies severe mental illness. The guy leaves his province, runs around the lower mainland without an address for a bunch of months and then stabs people he has no connection to? I don't know too much about our judicial system and all the details aren't out, but imo he's likely to end up in a psychiatric facility, not a prison Sometimes that is the only fair punishment in my books. Do them what they did to someone else. It's not fair for the victims that they get crapped on for other people's issues. Mental illness or not, somebody needs to be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 12 minutes ago, JV77 said: Sometimes that is the only fair punishment in my books. Do them what they did to someone else. It's not fair for the victims that they get crapped on for other people's issues. Mental illness or not, somebody needs to be held accountable. And how do you think they feel having a brain that does something they don't have control over? IF he was in a psychotic state and has mental illness, i pity him. that is &^@#ing depressing knowing what he has done afterwards. I'm totally okay with my tax money going towards putting someone like him in a psychiatric facility for the rest of his life so he doesn't harm someone else vs. an eye for an eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 14 hours ago, JV77 said: Sometimes that is the only fair punishment in my books. Do them what they did to someone else. It's not fair for the victims that they get crapped on for other people's issues. Mental illness or not, somebody needs to be held accountable. you think he should be punished just because we need a scapegoat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 2 hours ago, Fateless said: Devastating for the victims, families and communities. With that said, it could have been a lot worse if the accused had been wielding a gun instead of a knife. Just another quiet example of something that could have been much, much worse if it had taken place in the United States. Happy to live in a country that takes these types of crime seriously and amends their laws and rights accordingly. Agreed. There are so many homeless drifters shooting up schools in 'Murica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 20 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Agreed. There are so many homeless drifters shooting up schools in 'Murica. why suggest all shooters are cut from the same mold when that's obviously erroneous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 3 hours ago, Fateless said: Devastating for the victims, families and communities. With that said, it could have been a lot worse if the accused had been wielding a gun instead of a knife. Just another quiet example of something that could have been much, much worse if it had taken place in the United States. Happy to live in a country that takes these types of crime seriously and amends their laws and rights accordingly. I agree that Canada has it right in regards to guns. Sentancing for crimes committed on the other hand is an absolute joke and disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grapefruits Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, One one two said: why suggest all shooters are cut from the same mold when that's obviously erroneous? Why suggest that this incident would have been worse with no logical proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 19 minutes ago, Grapefruits said: Why suggest that this incident would have been worse with no logical proof? I never did. And it's not about single instances. Loose restrictions on firearms/high availability leads to more incidents with worse outcomes, generally. Certainly this /could/ have been worse, and it more likely would have been had it happened in, say, Alabama. Also, you have no idea what logical means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtieCanuck Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 16 minutes ago, One one two said: I never did. And it's not about single instances. Loose restrictions on firearms/high availability leads to more incidents with worse outcomes, generally. Certainly this /could/ have been worse, and it more likely would have been had it happened in, say, Alabama. Also, you have no idea what logical means. Yup. Israel has some of the strictest gun laws in the world. They also have a substantially lower gun death rate than America, which is disturbing considering its basically been a war zone there for 70 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'NucK™ Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, CBH1926 said: I agree that Canada has it right in regards to guns. Sentencing for crimes committed on the other hand is an absolute joke and disgrace. could you give some examples? Genuinely curious what you mean by that as I don't follow our judicial system closely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 10 minutes ago, 'NucK™ said: could you give some examples? Genuinely curious what you mean by that as I don't follow our judicial system closely I doubt he has examples, but we're quite lenient: comparatively shorter terms than lots of other nations, have quite a strong emphasis on rehabilitation (with parole often granted for more serious crimes), psychotic individuals aren't locked in prisons when they deserve psychiatric care, due process in particular is considered important, and we're civilized enough not to cut people's heads off. it's personal taste, I guess. the 'eye for an eye' crowd doesn't appreciate some/all of this to varying degrees and usually imo for bad reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, One one two said: I never did. And it's not about single instances. Loose restrictions on firearms/high availability leads to more incidents with worse outcomes, generally. Certainly this /could/ have been worse, and it more likely would have been had it happened in, say, Alabama. Also, you have no idea what logical means. Switzerland and Plano, Texas proves otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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