luckylager Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 9 minutes ago, Alflives said: Back to the WHL? Boco Raton, Alf. Boco Raton Del Boco Vista Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: Back to the WHL? Who gives a ****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stelar Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, luckylager said: Boco Raton, Alf. Boco Raton Del Bueno Vista Del Boca Vista.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Stelar said: Del Boca Vista.... Riiighhht... And edit... Nice avatar, kinda works for times like now eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollarAndADream Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 2 hours ago, LatteSipper said: Matthew Tkachuk drives to the net. On pace for 20 goals too Tkachuk is somebody we need right now, sure. But Juolevi is someone that we will need for years to come. It's been a lot time since the Canucks have had a true QB defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I actually 100% agreed with everything he said in this interview. I'm happy he hasn't given up on WD. I honestly wonder if the people who want to fire WD have a clear grasp of A. The players he has to work with and B. how well structured we are. Last season we were grossly outshot and we hung the goalies to dry 5-6 times a game. This year a can't even think of any half the rink odd man rushes and we have been in every game but 2. The problem we have is lack of dangle. We got no skillz and no finish. I will go as far as saying that our structure and goaltending have actually made us look farrr better than we are on paper. We haven't played structure like this since AV. If there is anything I'm bought into it's the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 34 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Clearly Benning stated that they've had to advise Willie on deployment. Never a good sign when a GM and president have to train the coach. He's as good as gone. Back to the minors. "We asked him to play with more structure & he's done that." Do you see the difference between Bennings quote and yours? Asking somebody to do something and he does it is not the same as training somebody to do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Baggins said: "We asked him to play with more structure & he's done that." Do you see the difference between Bennings quote and yours? Asking somebody to do something and he does it is not the same as training somebody to do something. And advising and training are the same how? Again I'm dealing with ultrasensitive posters who extrapolate phrases to suit their argument. Back to the shire with you. You need a dose of the halfings leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robvp Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said: Try being married to one!! (don't tell my wife i said that please) Well played sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_impersonator13 Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, Stelar said: Del Boca Vista.... Are you telling me they're no Condos in Del Boca Vista? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 Let's be honest. It doesn't really matter from this point on if the teams wins or loses. We're not going to be in the playoffs, we're not even going to be competing for the playoffs. All that matters is that our younger players develop and learn to play the NHL game. If Willie can get them ready for the next couple years, I'm happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 34 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I actually 100% agreed with everything he said in this interview. I'm happy he hasn't given up on WD. I honestly wonder if the people who want to fire WD have a clear grasp of A. The players he has to work with and B. how well structured we are. Last season we were grossly outshot and we hung the goalies to dry 5-6 times a game. This year a can't even think of any half the rink odd man rushes and we have been in every game but 2. The problem we have is lack of dangle. We got no skillz and no finish. I will go as far as saying that our structure and goaltending have actually made us look farrr better than we are on paper. We haven't played structure like this since AV. If there is anything I'm bought into it's the coaching staff. The key thing is that he actually asked the fans for more patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHTyrany Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I liked the interview. I suspect he had the questions in advance and some media lines to follow to help navigate the bating questions. Not a bad job. He at least is saying the right things. I wonder if it's all %100 sincere. I especially wonder about owner interference. We need some detective journalists. That would be so Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 8 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: The key thing is that he actually asked the fans for more patience. I noticed that too. A bit of a humbling change of tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I think this is a good point he raises - we have been playing with MUCH more structure, we've been in almost every single game and we haven't been as good as our first 4 games or as bad as our last losing streak. This team is just finding itself offensively and is still generating chances and playing the right way - once they start catching fire and clicking they'll start winning these games as long as they keep their defensive structure. Defensive we've been fantastic, goaltending has been the best its been in years, we can't sacrifice that for offence. Just keep patient, playing this way and we'll start winning games. No need to freak out just yet, it's only 11 games into the season, but we can't keep letting points slip. This streak has to be ended on this road trip, but as soon as it does the Canucks will gain confidence and really start to roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Weasel Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 3 hours ago, numb3r 16 said: Jesus turned water into wine. Jim Benning is going to turn losses into wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 25 minutes ago, LaBamba said: I noticed that too. A bit of a humbling change of tone. While we can capitulate on here about every single detail, a fan of the team will need patience. Nothing great was ever achieved with less Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kloubek Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, LaBamba said: I actually 100% agreed with everything he said in this interview. I'm happy he hasn't given up on WD. I honestly wonder if the people who want to fire WD have a clear grasp of A. The players he has to work with and B. how well structured we are. Last season we were grossly outshot and we hung the goalies to dry 5-6 times a game. This year a can't even think of any half the rink odd man rushes and we have been in every game but 2. The problem we have is lack of dangle. We got no skillz and no finish. I will go as far as saying that our structure and goaltending have actually made us look farrr better than we are on paper. We haven't played structure like this since AV. If there is anything I'm bought into it's the coaching staff. I agree. Partially. I DO think we've been in most games, due to the structure and goaltending. If we found a way to score some goals, we would absolutely have at least 2-3 more wins so far. Maybe 4. Our issue is absolutely due to a lack of driving to the net, and bearing down on the puck battles. I mean, we lack high end scoring talent too, but not much we can do about that. By all rights, our depth in scoring ought to amount to something, and the Sedins and Eriksson are no slouches to begin with. If you look at our entire lineup, I think you can call out almost all our guys as having fewer points than they should. So with a reasonable amount of shots per game, why not more goals? I don't think it is luck. I think our scoring chances are low percentage plays - both individually and the team all around. Why are we not getting quality chances? Because we aren't providing traffic in front of the net. We aren't collapsing to the net either, and getting secondary chances. We just float around, and take shots from the hashmarks that the goalie can see all the way. And these points are up to the coach to fix. If he isn't forcing them to correct their mistakes, then that's a problem. Yes, it is also up to the players to listen to the coach as well, but if you see our defensive structure, I don't think WD has lost the room whatsoever. He just needs to direct the players to position themselves for higher scoring potential plays - even if that means a little more pinching, and moving more players down low at once. (Risking an odd man rush, but still required). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 23 minutes ago, kloubek said: I agree. Partially. I DO think we've been in most games, due to the structure and goaltending. If we found a way to score some goals, we would absolutely have at least 2-3 more wins so far. Maybe 4. Our issue is absolutely due to a lack of driving to the net, and bearing down on the puck battles. I mean, we lack high end scoring talent too, but not much we can do about that. By all rights, our depth in scoring ought to amount to something, and the Sedins and Eriksson are no slouches to begin with. If you look at our entire lineup, I think you can call out almost all our guys as having fewer points than they should. So with a reasonable amount of shots per game, why not more goals? I don't think it is luck. I think our scoring chances are low percentage plays - both individually and the team all around. Why are we not getting quality chances? Because we aren't providing traffic in front of the net. We aren't collapsing to the net either, and getting secondary chances. We just float around, and take shots from the hashmarks that the goalie can see all the way. And these points are up to the coach to fix. If he isn't forcing them to correct their mistakes, then that's a problem. Yes, it is also up to the players to listen to the coach as well, but if you see our defensive structure, I don't think WD has lost the room whatsoever. He just needs to direct the players to position themselves for higher scoring potential plays - even if that means a little more pinching, and moving more players down low at once. (Risking an odd man rush, but still required). I agree that it seems like the lack of goals is due to low percentage plays. The only caveat to this is that we have been having "east-to-west" plays where the puck is being thrown across the ice for a shot. The problem is speed. To generate higher percentage plays, we need to: have faster foot speed in order to have our players maneuver across the ice faster; move the puck faster - whether that's a pass or shot; and not fear making an imperfect play by trying to make the perfect pass or perfect shot. I haven't had the opportunity to watch too many games but in the games I have watched, passes in the o-zone to set up chances are often just that tad bit slower than what's necessary to catch a goalie off center and shots take just that half second longer to release. All of your other points exacerbate the above things too. Having guys drive the net hard when you make plays faster increases the percentages that a bounce will go your way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: And advising and training are the same how? Again I'm dealing with ultrasensitive posters who extrapolate phrases to suit their argument. Back to the shire with you. You need a dose of the halfings leaf. Which one of us is playing games to suit their argument? Benning said, "We asked him to play with more structure & he's done that." You said, " Clearly Benning stated that they've had to advise Willie on deployment. Never a good sign when a GM and president have to train the coach. " Do you see anything in Bennings quote about advising on deployment or having to train Willie? No. You just make crap up as you go to suit your argument. Maybe you need to lay of the leaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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