Nuxfanabroad Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 A little lazy to expand upon this, & jog the memory for finer details. Guess this question would be more fitting for the 30-something, + crowd. I see some parallels with our current group, & these two low points we hit in the 90's. 1990: Quinn firmly grasped control, & a quick resurgence(albeit, lots had to do with Linden fulfilling promise, & Bure's unlikely arrival) brought us to perhaps our most beloved PO-run. 1997: Controversial meltdown, featuring names like McCaw, Quinn, Renney, Keenan & Burke. Ultimately dealing Trevor & drafting twins led to a more sustainable resurgence. Can we learn anything to apply to this current dark hour? There was quite a contrast between the two remedies. Appreciate some insights here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 a real coach for starters , let the kids play win or lose ,at this point we don't have anything to lose , bench LE ? throw a dart ,spin the wheel ???????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 No parallels. I'd like to say this year's team could beat both of those teams you mentioned.... but I'm not sure. Not sure about either. I really didn't expect us to be as bad as the buttheads on TV and print said we'd be. We're worse, and it sucks monkey bums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xereau Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 No amount of Mark Messiers is going to get us out of this 'predicament'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 It could also be that the league has changed too much(namely cap/Buttman) to learn much from them two painful periods. More parity now. In '90 & '97 there were some expansion(& a few assorted weaklings) to feast upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Crossbar Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The big difference for me ... the team was in jeopardy of moving around 97 and there was nothing but false hope and desperation with Messier and Keenan. And they really felt like salt in the open wound. Those were dark times. If there's anything to be learned, it's that things can be even worse. At least we have Boeser and youth for a glimmer of hope and that we have a team in this city. In that regard, we're more 1990. After going through those darker years, I can firmly say I'd rather Vancouver have this team with a glimmer of hope than no team at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, Dr. Crossbar said: The big difference for me ... the team was in jeopardy of moving around 97 and there was nothing but false hope and desperation with Messier and Keenan. And they really felt like salt in the open wound. Those were dark times. If there's anything to be learned, it's that things can be even worse. At least we have Boeser and youth for a glimmer of hope and that we have a team in this city. In that regard, we're more 1990. After going through those darker years, I can firmly say I'd rather Vancouver have this team with a glimmer of hope than no team at all. Good one. Who knows..Maybe Boess can be our Bure/Bossy? Also interesting how Pat pulled off that great 4 player acquisition(early '91,wasn't it?) from StLoo. Might it be time to trade 1 or 2 main cogs for a collection of young potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FijianCanuck Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I dunno man but it's a good time to get into drugs with all this losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Nuck Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Grow some balls, we haven't had balls since AV and his chewing gum, time to grow a pair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This is worse than 1990 was. In 1989, the Canucks went to 7th game OT against the Cup Champion Flames, and we were witnessing the rise of both Linden and McLean. Even if the next year or two were poor, we had Linden scoring 50-60 points and McLean as a young Vezina candidate. It felt like if we got back to the playoffs, we could still do big things, and also like we were a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. As it turned out, we were indeed only a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. Drafting Bure and the Ronning / Courtnall trade made us a back-to-back division champion and Cup finalist. We're nowhere near that now. The best that could be said is that Horvat MIGHT turn out to be something Linden-like, but so far, he's lagging behind Linden, who hit the ground sprinting in the NHL. We don't have the equivalent of McLean, and we probably missed our chances over the last two years to draft the equivalent of Bure. And while Benning COULD pull off the equivalent of the Ronning / Courtnall trade, I have yet to see any signs that he is capable of doing so. There was more reason for optimism in 1990. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 6 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: This is worse than 1990 was. In 1989, the Canucks went to 7th game OT against the Cup Champion Flames, and we were witnessing the rise of both Linden and McLean. Even if the next year or two were poor, we had Linden scoring 50-60 points and McLean as a young Vezina candidate. It felt like if we got back to the playoffs, we could still do big things, and also like we were a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. As it turned out, we were indeed only a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. Drafting Bure and the Ronning / Courtnall trade made us a back-to-back division champion and Cup finalist. We're nowhere near that now. The best that could be said is that Horvat MIGHT turn out to be something Linden-like, but so far, he's lagging behind Linden, who hit the ground sprinting in the NHL. We don't have the equivalent of McLean, and we probably missed our chances over the last two years to draft the equivalent of Bure. And while Benning COULD pull off the equivalent of the Ronning / Courtnall trade, I have yet to see any signs that he is capable of doing so. There was more reason for optimism in 1990. That's a tough one to argue. If only Lafayette went post & in..I'd have accepted chips falling"as they may" in an epic game 7 OT. THAT woulda' been required viewing! 1993 sure wish we bounced the league-pet, Kings. Van vs TO, then Mtl would have been up there too. GREAT team for about 3 yrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 14 minutes ago, Kevin Biestra said: This is worse than 1990 was. In 1989, the Canucks went to 7th game OT against the Cup Champion Flames, and we were witnessing the rise of both Linden and McLean. Even if the next year or two were poor, we had Linden scoring 50-60 points and McLean as a young Vezina candidate. It felt like if we got back to the playoffs, we could still do big things, and also like we were a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. As it turned out, we were indeed only a couple moves away from being a powerhouse. Drafting Bure and the Ronning / Courtnall trade made us a back-to-back division champion and Cup finalist. We're nowhere near that now. The best that could be said is that Horvat MIGHT turn out to be something Linden-like, but so far, he's lagging behind Linden, who hit the ground sprinting in the NHL. We don't have the equivalent of McLean, and we probably missed our chances over the last two years to draft the equivalent of Bure. And while Benning COULD pull off the equivalent of the Ronning / Courtnall trade, I have yet to see any signs that he is capable of doing so. There was more reason for optimism in 1990. Ouch, fair and insightful analysis, accurate too. We're in a bad spot right now. The Calgary slow burn has actually turned into a tire fire for Vancouver. The winning culture thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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