captaincowbasher Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I have been a Canuck fan for 25 years now. In those 25 years we've experienced 2 cup runs and some pretty solid teams. This stretch does not represent what Canuck Nation is use to, our top players the Sedin's (albeit great Canucks) have run their course with this Club, we can all see it, with that said so has Edler. Your job now should not be trying to perpetuate the pain by supplementing them with guys like Eriksson(squeezing every last drop out of something that has nothing to give), rather, to try and capture some assets for these 3 Canucks should be your absolute priority. You could sell the Sedins to a team in the East, who wants to make a push and could use 2/3 of a very good second line. You will have to eat salary but only short term and you would capture at least a 1st, great prospect and a decent roster player. I recommend a team like Ottawa, NYI, or Philly. Edler would probably land you a player like E.Kane considering Kane's issues but he's a local boy who could use some restoration. Kind of like Kassian just more talented. You hit a home run with Gudbranson in my opinion, Sutter looks good to, there is no doubt you have it in you to rebuild the team, so get the owners on board and make this your team because as long as the Sedins are here it's still Burke's. Trade suggestions: Tanev + Virtanen for Landeskog Edler for E.Kane Sedins for B. Schenn + 1st(2017) +T. Sanheim I think the type of players that you get in return in these types of deals all have bite, are speedy, hard to play against and will help recapture Canuck Nation with a more physical brand, less passive style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where's Wellwood Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Not enough for Landeskog Overpayment for Kane Do the Flyers have 14 million in cap space and why would they want the declining Sedins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I think it's safe to say that no big decisions like that are actually up to Jim Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 1 hour ago, Where's Wellwood said: Not enough for Landeskog Overpayment for Kane Do the Flyers have 14 million in cap space and why would they want the declining Sedins? IF the Sedins are ever traded, both of their contracts will be 50% retained. That is the only way it will ever get done. So no team requires 14 million in cap space to acquire them. Just 7 million minus the amount of salary coming back in the 1/2 roster players you'd receive. Don't ever see it happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 QQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockhart Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 If we retained 50% of the Sedin's contracts we could get a really decent return. They could basically slot in as a teams 2nd line or even 2B, 2nd unit PP on a really good team. After the end of the Sedin's contracts, Ryan Miller's contract, Sbisa and Burrows we will have so much available cap space. Too bad we bad we signed Loui because that contract already looks like a big anchor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This management has no clue how to rebuild a club. They have proven that by trying to stay competitive saying they can make the play off's and inject youth, but they were wrong. They have proven that by over paying for 31 year old players is not going to help you stay competitive. Essentially all they have done is prolong the agony of a very high payroll for some players on the decline. That is just sucking all the fight out of this team and keeping ice time from the young players that really need it. The only thing that will turn the club in the right direction is to completely overhaul the management team. Trevor Linden, Jim Benning and Willy all need to be fired immediately and replaced by a competent management team. I personally have never played hockey, but could have done a better job of this mess by at least picking a direction and sticking to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Edmonton is in 4th place, we are 29th with the most goals against (-16) How can Jim Benning think this is a competative team? How Jim, please answer HOW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combover Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Bennings a bust. jim willie experiment a fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 This thread is gonna be the whos who of crybabies lol where's coffee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 As soon as you see comments about acquiring Kane or trading our 2017 draft pick you have to chuckle. You people are looking for a quick fix and there is none. How about stay the coarse and draft well. Each year you try to add a few quality players into your system. If anything gets done it should be for draft picks,draft picks and more draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 I'd love to magically turn the Sedins and Edler into Kane and Landeskog etc, but that will never happen. The Sedins are here until they are done with hockey. Acceptance. The Sedins are still our best players. Just have to support the team, cheer them on anyway, look forward to the future. If you were to ask the Sedins, what's more important to you: (1) moving to a new city to try and win a Cup, or (2) staying in Vancouver with the family. I'm almost 100% sure they'd pick staying with their families in Vancouver. They aren't going anywhere. Besides, they still believe they can win it here in Vancouver. Bless their delusional hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ojibwa72 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, NUCKER67 said: I'd love to magically turn the Sedins and Edler into Kane and Landeskog etc, but that will never happen. The Sedins are here until they are done with hockey. Acceptance. The Sedins are still our best players. Just have to support the team, cheer them on anyway, look forward to the future. If you were to ask the Sedins, what's more important to you: (1) moving to a new city to try and win a Cup, or (2) staying in Vancouver with the family. I'm almost 100% sure they'd pick staying with their families in Vancouver. They aren't going anywhere. Besides, they still believe they can win it here in Vancouver. Bless their delusional hearts. I agree with you at this stage in their career they are safe here however in the same breath that means everyone else is a tradeable asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 Who's left from the OLD guard? Daniel - Not going anywhere Henrik - Not going anywhere Burrows - Leaving at the end of the season Edler - Contract expires in 2019, trade him at the TDL to a contender in a metropolitan city - to entice him to waive (NYR?) Hansen - Might want to just keep him, as he's cheap and gives full effort. My concern is the Canucks may not get that much for him, but he's valuable to our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Where'd Luongo? Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Where's Wellwood said: Not enough for Landeskog Overpayment for Kane Do the Flyers have 14 million in cap space and why would they want the declining Sedins? IF that is the case, we get a 2nd round pick in addition to Kane for Edler. We then use that 2nd round pick in addition to Tanev and Virtanen for Landeskog. Lastly, as others said, we retain half salary for Sedins. I would also trade Miller to a pacific team for a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 wow people really cannot stomach a rebuild, let alone a tear down benning has a plan, we have goalie and defence depth now focus will soon be on rebuilding the offence the team will then come together in a year or 2 and be much more solid albeit inexperienced we will not have to go through a 10 year period of lousy hockey sedins will retire canucks.. i think people should just accept that they are entitled to, and it is good for the franchise brand if they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 The problem is not just that the Canucks suck - the Comets suck too! There is practically NOTHING on the farm. A couple other guys are doing well in the NCAA, and may make good NHL players, but nowhere near enough. Blow it up. Get whatever you can for players with value that won't be effective in 4 years when the turnover is complete (Tanev, Edler, Hansen, etc.). Picks and prospects only... ...in fact, based on Benning's overwhelming success with the former and utter failure with the latter, picks only, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 I have been a Canucks fan longer and you need to calm down as when things go bad you do not do stupid things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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