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Ted Lasso

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I've got a feeling we'll really start to tank it once the Sedins move on or retire in 2 years time. Sutter will be a middle of the pack type player, Horvat will be our first line center and not a very good one at that (20 goals, 40-50 points if we're lucky) and but our defence will be quite good by then. We won't be the worst team in the league thanks to goaltending and defence but we'll be around 10th in the Conference conistently for a few seasons. Probably waste Baertschi, Granlund, Horvat and Rodin's prime along with Hutton and Tanev's but the new wave of kids will emerge in about 5-10 years from now as quite decent high-end skilled players, with Horvat and Hutton etc. as veterans to guide them. 

 

Basically, I think we're playing through a throw-away generation of players right now. 

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2 hours ago, cripplereh said:

I have stated many times now that we have 15 players 25 or under if that is not a rebuild then I have no clue what is!

 

If you need to complain write a letter and send it!

 

I have stated before that we have next to no future ELITE  NHL talent under the age of 25 on our canucks roster right now.

That means it is not a rebuild and yes you are right you have no clue.

 

Fans do feel the need to complain and thus that is why they post here .  

 

Letters ,  who writes and mails letters in 2016 ?  Really ?  

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3 hours ago, FireGillis said:

You'll find that the anti tankers are some of the rudest and most condescending posters here. They're like trump cause they like to shout and call people names. They even blame the media because the media won't lie to them and say everything with the Canucks is sunshine and rainbows. They can't handle a critical media that dare criticizes their perfect Canucks.

Sounds an awful lot like Hillary supporters to me.

 

Any who, fact of the matter is the fans and the media are all well aware of what needs to be done. How they handle the reality of when it happens is yet to be seen but the writing is on the wall. I truly believe Linden and Benning are too smart of people to fully believe this team is capable of being competitive and God forbid playoff contenders. Whatever is going on behind the scenes is unknown at this point but all signs point to ownership interfering with management and this is the result of it.

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20 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

 

I have stated before that we have next to no future ELITE  NHL talent under the age of 25 on our canucks roster right now.

That means it is not a rebuild and yes you are right you have no clue.

 

Fans do feel the need to complain and thus that is why they post here .  

 

Letters ,  who writes and mails letters in 2016 ?  Really ?  

really that is the only way they would read what any of us say

 

no nothing I have watched hockey for longer then 99% of the people on here and seen what has worked and what hasn't and most of what people want does not work at all

 

Elite I would say we have 3 to 5 young ELITE players if coached right so again think what we have and are doing is the right way to go and works

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8 hours ago, alfstonker said:

 

Why do you blatantly misrepresent the season so far. 

 

I have watched the whole of every game so far. (have you? It doesn't sound like it) I have also watched the whole of another 20 league games. The product is not garbage that is just your exaggeration.

What is the point of exaggerating it doesn't change reality - the reality that if we were scoring at any reasonable rate given the players on this team we would be mid table up and half the fans on here would be pleased with the product.

 

So stop trying to infect the rest of us with your soured version of reality. Go read the posts from the first 4 games.

 

#notmyposts

 

thats the best I got for now.....a few cans in tonight.

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7 hours ago, cripplereh said:

I have stated many times now that we have 15 players 25 or under if that is not a rebuild then I have no clue what is!

 

If you need to complain write a letter and send it!

 

You have no clue what is. We are the worst offensive team in the league and the 10th oldest. Having 15 players 25 or younger is  the new NHL. Nothing revolutionary to see here. 

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13 hours ago, two drink minimum said:

The fans are confused because the GM hasn't come forward and said they're rebuilding. They entice the fans into believing the playoffs are a real strong possibility. So the fans tune in and show up to the rink. The fans buy tickets and popcorn and then they see what's really going on and start to wonder ...WTF??

 

How many times does Benning have to say "REBUILD on the fly" before fans notice the word REBUILD in there?

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I just don't buy into the ownership meddling thing. The Aqulini's build apartments to make money, they don't need the Canucks for that.

 

Our 'rebuilding on the fly' is all about the Sedins - what do you do with 3-4 years left on their contracts (when JB took over)? I think it all stems from that. 

 

Its clear now tho that the twins aren't enough to carry the team on their own, and I'm not happy to say that. I did think they had more left but 36 is 36. I think with the right partner (Hansen or Loui) they are still 2nd liners. 

 

I'm betting 20 games in is decision time. At 1/4 way through the season you can make a coaching change if you think you can win under a new style. If not, WD will meet the pundits expectations and its hello draft lotto. 

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On 11/12/2016 at 8:25 AM, Kenny Powers said:

Mr. Aquilini,

 

Thank you for being an owner of the Canucks franchise since 2004.

 

As a Canucks fan since 1993, I am grateful you've allowed this to be a salary cap team, and get within one game of our first Stanley Cup!

 

We have received the message that the 2016/17 Canucks are targeting a playoff berth, while simultaneously transitioning our core players, or "rebuilding on the fly."

 

My petition to you is this:

 

Allow Canucks management the singular focus of rebuilding our team. Specifically, prioritize acquisition and development of younger players over regular-season success. 

 

I have the patience and interest to watch young players develop (and not win), and will continue to buy tickets and merchandise as we develop our next core.

 

Thank you,

 

One Canucks Fan

 

 

As I swtated in another post, this team has been in rebuild for quite some time. The term just hasn't been used like you'd like it to be. 

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17 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

 

The only thing that WILL  happen is a wholesale sell off after  2 more years of finishing 25-30th.  . They want to compete now as  MUCH  as possible and will keep as many vets around as they can so they can still try to sell expensive tickets for a very mediocre product...  Good luck with that strategy..

 

The rebuilt will start when Hank and Danny retire in 2 years and the canucks can finally hit rock bottom  ..... 

 

Lesson to be learned.  Management should not try to prop up a dead horse  / put lipstick on a pig.   We need to get ownership and management on the same page so we can start to build another stanley cup contending team. 

The owners will not let that happen. When the money comes off the books in two years they will spend it on UFA's. I will be shocked if they ever allow a total tear down.

We will be drafting from 1st to 15th depending on how bad a year goes.

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6 minutes ago, appleboy said:

The owners will not let that happen. When the money comes off the books in two years they will spend it on UFA's. I will be shocked if they ever allow a total tear down.

We will be drafting from 1st to 15th depending on how bad a year goes.

 

Yah we know how that goes....  Vrbata and LE  have both been such excellent UFA acquisitions....   Great approach to prop up our team so we can draft lower level prospects.

Sounds like a recipe for long term failure....

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22 hours ago, LaBamba said:

 

Again, how much worse can it be?! Is this really so much better than watching a rebuild? Seriously.

Maybe if Jim tries to Rebuild we will actually make the playoffs. He is a master of saying something and having the complete opposite results. 

21 hours ago, riffraff said:

 

Dude.  What's the difference really honestly from The on ice product right now?

 

its garbage.  And their are plenty of passengers atm.

 

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and if you lived in Utica you'd be gouging your eyes out too.

So, we've lost some games and of course the sky is falling. Sure, it's never fun to lose, but we also won a few games to start the season. Lots of fight still in this team and even if the chances aren't getting finished, neither the winning streak nor losing streak are true representations of this team.

 

Could this team have been better sooner with a full rebuild? Maybe, but it sure as hell would have been worse right now and for the last couple years. Imagine if we didn't have the Sedins or Hansen or Edler or Tanev or anyone to show our young players the way. Not only would the result on the ice be worse but we'd be rushing more prospects to fill the void and potentially damaging them in the process.

 

We've seen it this year already, how fans don't like the losing, but they want Utica to be properly supported, and think Virtanen should be sent down, and we should trade for a top scorer, and, and, and... Ownership pushed to remain competitive to some degree even before letting go of Gillis, and Benning's been trying to keep a positive culture for the young prospects we do have.

 

Sometimes that means we take from Utica and they suffer while we have injuries, but we can't rebuild both our prospect pool and our NHL squad fully at the same time. The only other option would be to 'Major League' this team by signing a bunch of replacement players and keep our prospects in Utica, Junior, the NCAA and overseas.

 

But that's cool, be upset about the current team. Just don't be delusional that there's a better way at this point. Better execution? On the ice for sure and hopefully with roster moves, but full tank is too late at this point.

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