chon derry Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: It's all about the stuff. Courtesy of today's Province. he must have picked up all his "stuff" this time ,since he didn't pick up all his "stuff" last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Gooseberries said: What is going on with this team lol and everyone was looking at you for answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: I think it is because they genuinely believe in Willie and think his approach as a players coach is what the team needs. I disagree with that but I do get the sense they want him to succeed his way. How can anyone believe in the crap Willie is bringing to the ice? If they put the needs of Tweaks over the needs of the team, this franchise is heading into a black hole of stupidity and despair. I have faith though that Benning may have had enough, and brought Jarvis in to manage once they get rid of Desjardins and his stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
73 Percent Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, Rocksterh8 said: and everyone was looking at you for answers. I'm just a passenger. I look at JR. for answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neko Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, MJDDawg said: It's all about the stuff. Courtesy of today's Province. Completely opposite of what he's been doing with the team. Last night's first period is one of the few times I've seen the team with energy and speed in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Stuff , let's see hockey equipment and a toothbrush . Check ok good to go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 having enough stuff for a 2 week road trip and having enough stuff for a multiple-month stay in a different country on the opposite coast are 2 very different things. maybe it's planned for him to spend the rest of the year there and he's renting a place instead of staying in a hotel? the guy is going to need his personal effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, 189lb enforcers? said: Fire AV! Worked last time, didn't it?! Same old crowd posting the same old fire the coach crap. If you aren't part of the solution you are part of the problem. Firing Desjardins won't be a magic tonic. This team is just untalented in many ways. Having said that, keeping Desjardins will not improve things either. His system is not a good fit for this group of players. So either Benninv keeps Willie and gets rid of a whole bunch of players did ones who will fit or he gets rid of Willie and gets a coach who can build a system around what he has. At this point someone will take the fall. It's always the coach before the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Barzal Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 &^@# this team. Honestly such a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackcanuck Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Mike HalfordVerified account@HalfordPHT TRANSACTIONS VAN: Virtanen (ran out of jeans) recalled from Utica VAN: Virtanen (did laundry) assigned to Utica Mike Halford @HalfordPHT 1h1 hour ago It's almost impressive how the Canucks can make the right move -- having Virtanen in the AHL -- yet still screw it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmylu1 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Making room? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbdoubleu Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Love this franchise. Nothing has changed since the Bure wants out days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Biggest load of crap I have seen from Willie yet. He does not hold vets accountable at all and they regularly leave behind young players when they make a mistake. He needs to be teaching psychology at a community college not coaching an NHL team. I am sure he "wants" the team to play that way. Unfortunately they really don't. you know that was a satirical Photoshop job right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 5 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: How can anyone believe in the crap Willie is bringing to the ice? If they put the needs of Tweaks over the needs of the team, this franchise is heading into a black hole of stupidity and despair. I have faith though that Benning may have had enough, and brought Jarvis in to manage once they get rid of Desjardins and his stuff. I don't buy into it. I think Willie is the wrong coach for this group. But after 3 coaches in 5 years the coach killer rep of the core group is still going strong. Until the Sedins are gone and new and passionate leadership takes over, it's Bill Murray Groundhog Day in Vancouver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuman491 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 I'm confused. I can't imagine how Jake is feeling. Honestly what can possibly explain how he has been handled? Coach and Management not seeing eye to eye? Management and Ownership arguing? Management having no idea how to develop a young player? I've not been one to criticize Benning and co, but wtf is going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Ironic how all of the posts in this thread blame the coach for this kids NHL upbringing. He has no worth ethic, not even comparable to Bo, he deserves this shame being brought upon him. Maybe go to another concert and skip practice, I am sure your teammates will appreciate it. Burrows said it all when he stated "I hope he gets it" apparently not Alex, this kid is a bust of a pick. Kassian 2.0, except who knows if he will even be the Kass who is now sober and on the Oilers. Thanks hometown boy, next time learn from Bo on how to work your way into the league, GL in the AHL, doubt you will even come close to a point per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 It hit me this morning - the simplest explanation here is Jake is still very much a young kid. Sometimes the brain doesn't catch up to the body. He's probably not mature enough to deal with his situation up here, and if he's never really had to work that hard to get where he his then he needs this until he's mature enough to put in the work. All of this benching, short trip to Utica #1, etc. might have all been to try to wake the kid up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 Just now, SaintPatrick33 said: Ironic how all of the posts in this thread blame the coach for this kids NHL upbringing. He has no worth ethic, not even comparable to Bo, he deserves this shame being brought upon him. Maybe go to another concert and skip practice, I am sure your teammates will appreciate it. Burrows said it all when he stated "I hope he gets it" apparently not Alex, this kid is a bust of a pick. Kassian 2.0, except who knows if he will even be the Kass who is now sober and on the Oilers. Thanks hometown boy, next time learn from Bo on how to work your way into the league, GL in the AHL, doubt you will even come close to a point per game. Give him a year to mature. He's got all the tools from the neck down, maybe he just needs to grow up a bit. Its not a knock or an insult, mental development in kids can take longer sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, tas said: you know that was a satirical Photoshop job right? Lol ya I know. Unfortunately for us he has actually pretty much said all of those things at one time or another and it is clearly what he believes his approach has been. My point is that he is pretty delusional or a pathological liar. Same goes for Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 16, 2016 Share Posted November 16, 2016 1 hour ago, firestorm238 said: ... What's the big deal? They decided to send him down on the weekend, want him to stay down but he didn't have all of his "stuff" with him. He went back to Vancouver, got his "stuff", got paid an extra couple of days at his NHL rate... Not really sure why this is viewed as a negative? Yeah, much as the optics are questionable, I'm willing to give the Canucks the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe they really wanted to give Jake a chance to come home, see his family, and pack some stuff for an extended stay in Utica. He was demoted for those two games during a road trip. So it's probably true that he doesn't have enough stuff for a full on move to Utica. Obviously he could have someone pack his things and ship them, but maybe they saw some benefit in bringing him back to town. Beyond getting his "stuff" packed, having him fly back allows the team to have a sit down meeting between Virtanen and the coaches, management, and player development staff. They might want to explain the situation face-to-face and give Jake instructions on what they expect from him and what the plan is moving forward. It's possible that what looks like mismanagement is actually sound management. The Canucks might legitimately feel like the situation demands an in-person meeting. And it's likely that a young kid like Virtanen could benefit from some face time with senior Canucks staff (if handled correctly) before starting a more extended stint in the AHL. Plus, by being recalled, flown home, demoted, and flown back again, he gets a little more NHL level pay and banks a few more airmiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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