canuckistani Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 I know what people will say, but look at it this way, unless we can transition Tryamkin to the left side, our current & future right side looks like this: Tanev Gudbranson Tryamkin Stecher Biega Subban (future) that is 6 RHD, with 4 of them good enough to make the NHL. Currently, in order of overall defensive worth, i'd rate them as: 1. Tanev 2. Gudbranson 3. Stecher/Tryamkin (tie. Stecher is slightly more ready now, Tryamkin has a higher ceiling). 4. Biega 5. Subban Tanev is our puck-moving defensive, defensemen (i.e., good at handling the puck in his own zone & breakout passes) Stetcher is our puck-moving all-round defence man, who gets his shots through to the net Gudbransson is our stay-at home physical, crease-clearing defence man. Tryamkin is our stay-at home physical, crease-clearing defence man, who is currently behind Gudbransson in the defensive awareness/positioning but ahead in crease-clearance, strength,skating and has a better shot. We also have Subban coming up, who will be given chances in the next year or two, with Biega being the injury filler. So unless we can successfully transition Tryamkin on the left side, Gudbransson is the odd-man out. With him, we will get better returns than Tryamkin, Tryamkin has a higher ceiling than Gudbranson, is cheaper and still preserves the balance in our right side pairings. So with that in mind, i wonder if what people think of this kind of a deal: To LA Kings : Gudbranson + 2ndR/3rdR draft pick To Vancouver Canucks: Jake Muzzin. Reasoning : its a bit of a like-for-like trade that helps both teams. Our right side is overstocked, our left side is bare. in LA, They have Muzzin, Martinez, McNabb, Forbort and Gravel who are LHDs. Thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GoBoGo53 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 There is a 0% chance the Kings would do that deal. Muzzin is a legit top pair guy, Guddy isn't even a top 4. No chance they deal him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Building Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 It would be a nice change to keep some picks around for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckistani Posted November 17, 2016 Author Share Posted November 17, 2016 6 minutes ago, GoBoGo53 said: There is a 0% chance the Kings would do that deal. Muzzin is a legit top pair guy, Guddy isn't even a top 4. No chance they deal him Their current top pairing is McNabb + Dowdy, their 2nd pairing is Muzzin + Martinez, the latter is left handed defence man playing right-D. Switching him to his preferred side and putting him with Guddy would be a viable change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Tryamkin is a lefty. Our left side: Edler Tryamkin Hutton Sbisa Pedan Juolevi Briesbrois I don't see handedness as being an issue. Gudbranson hasn't really been given a fair shot as he's been thrust into the top shutdown role in the absence of Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 7 minutes ago, King Heffy said: Tryamkin is a lefty. exactly what i was thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 37 minutes ago, canuckistani said: ... we can transition Tryamkin to the left side ... Problem solved. He's a left handed D who can play both sides. He played on the right when first came over with Hutton, then again now with Sbisa because that was how to get him into the lineup, but on the left with Stecher when they were paired together. As we move on from Sbisa, he'll take his spot. Juolevi will take another year at least, and Brisebois will be a few years for sure, and they'll step in as Edler is eventually moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 24 minutes ago, GoBoGo53 said: There is a 0% chance the Kings would do that deal. Muzzin is a legit top pair guy, Guddy isn't even a top 4. No chance they deal him Kings would not do it but your evaluations are off. Muzzin a 2nd pair guy and Gudbranson same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HK Phooey Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 1 hour ago, canuckistani said: Thoughts ? That sort of trade may happen in canuckistan, but it ain't going to happen here in North America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hortankin Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Gudbranson for Karlsson or Gudbranson for No1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 Didn't even bother reading. Absolutely zero chance we trade Gudbranson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 17, 2016 Share Posted November 17, 2016 ummm NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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