Daniel+Henrik2237 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 My Redo 1. Washington- Alexander Ovechkin (Drafted 1st) 2. Pittsburgh- Evgeni Malkin (Drafted 2nd) 3. Chicago- Mike Green (Cam Barker)(Mike Green drafted 29th) 4. Carolina- David Krejci (Andrew Ladd) (David Krejci drafted 63rd) 5. Phoenix- Blake Wheeler (Drafted 5th) 6. New York Rangers- Travis Zajaz (Al Monoya)( Travis Zajac Drafted 20th) 7. Florida- Cory Schneider (Rostislav Olesz) (Cory Schneider drafted 26th) 8. Columbus- Andrew Ladd (Alexandre Picard) (Andrew Ladd drafted 4th) 9. Anaheim- Devan Dubnyk (Ladislav Smid) (Devan Dubnyk drafted 14th) 10. Atlanta- Mark Streit- (Boris Valabik) (Mark Streit drafted 262nd) Canucks Draft Johan Franzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ha Imagine Chicago with Mike Green too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted November 20, 2016 Share Posted November 20, 2016 Ovechkin Malkin Schneider Krecji Wheeler Green Streit Ladd Dubnyk Zajac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 I'm surprised you guys didn't include Rinne. 1. Alex Ovechkin 2. Evgeni Malkin 3. Cory Schneider 4. David Krejci 5. Mike Green 6. Blake Wheeler 7. Pekka Rinne 8. Andrew Ladd 9. Travis Zajac 10. Johan Franzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Jane Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Ovi Malkin Krejci Schneider Mike Green Rinne Wheeler Ladd Zajac Streit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Malkin over Ovechkin for sure. Malkin has more points per game in the regular season and playoffs and won the Conn Smythe when he won the cup. He's been a bit more consistent with just one season below a point per game compared to Ovechkin who's had two. Also, he's a center which is a more valuable position. Malkin Ovechkin Schneider Krejci Wheeler Rinne Dubnyk Ladd Streit Zajac HM: Dubinsky, Callahan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1. Ovechkin 2. Malkin 3. Rinne 4. Schneider 5. Krejci 6. Green 7. Wheeler 8. Dubnyk 9. Ladd 10. Streit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 Wasn't streit drafted when he was like 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 How does ANYONE have Dubnyk in their Top-10. I understand he is a VERY good goaltender now, but the start to his career was atrocious, and he was almost out of the league. You could make the argument that he was just playing on bad defensive teams, and one could make the counter argument that he needed that long to develop. Either way, Top 10? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Aircool said: How does ANYONE have Dubnyk in their Top-10. I understand he is a VERY good goaltender now, but the start to his career was atrocious, and he was almost out of the league. You could make the argument that he was just playing on bad defensive teams, and one could make the counter argument that he needed that long to develop. Either way, Top 10? I think not. Becoming a #1 goalie, even if it took some time, still beats a lot of other players from that draft year. I wouldn't put players like Zajac or Callahan ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaBamba Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 38 minutes ago, Master Mind said: Becoming a #1 goalie, even if it took some time, still beats a lot of other players from that draft year. I wouldn't put players like Zajac or Callahan ahead of him. How many legit #1 goalies are there in the league? 15-20? That's pretty elite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircool Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 hour ago, Master Mind said: Becoming a #1 goalie, even if it took some time, still beats a lot of other players from that draft year. I wouldn't put players like Zajac or Callahan ahead of him. You realize that the team drafting him would not have benefited from him at all right? He only started having success after his UFA year. I'm not saying that he is a bad player, and not CURRENTLY better than some of the names you are suggesting he is better than. What I'm saying is that if you take into account the basically 10 years of poor play leading up to what will be a relatively short term as an extremely productive player, he isn't worth more than those players who in their early years (and on cheap contracts) produced at a level comparable to what he now produces at. Evaluating a players value on Draft Day while using their career as context is fine. But then you need to use their WHOLE career as context, and assume identical levels of production at identical points in their career. Devan Dubnyk over his WHOLE CAREER has not been MORE productive than 10 people in his draft class. That's just an asinine thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 1 minute ago, Aircool said: You realize that the team drafting him would not have benefited from him at all right? He only started having success after his UFA year. I'm not saying that he is a bad player, and not CURRENTLY better than some of the names you are suggesting he is better than. What I'm saying is that if you take into account the basically 10 years of poor play leading up to what will be a relatively short term as an extremely productive player, he isn't worth more than those players who in their early years (and on cheap contracts) produced at a level comparable to what he now produces at. Evaluating a players value on Draft Day while using their career as context is fine. But then you need to use their WHOLE career as context, and assume identical levels of production at identical points in their career. Devan Dubnyk over his WHOLE CAREER has not been MORE productive than 10 people in his draft class. That's just an asinine thought. But he played for the garbage Oilers. They were legendary bad. Not even Patrick Roy could've saved them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted November 21, 2016 Share Posted November 21, 2016 33 minutes ago, Aircool said: You realize that the team drafting him would not have benefited from him at all right? He only started having success after his UFA year. I'm not saying that he is a bad player, and not CURRENTLY better than some of the names you are suggesting he is better than. What I'm saying is that if you take into account the basically 10 years of poor play leading up to what will be a relatively short term as an extremely productive player, he isn't worth more than those players who in their early years (and on cheap contracts) produced at a level comparable to what he now produces at. Evaluating a players value on Draft Day while using their career as context is fine. But then you need to use their WHOLE career as context, and assume identical levels of production at identical points in their career. Devan Dubnyk over his WHOLE CAREER has not been MORE productive than 10 people in his draft class. That's just an asinine thought. If I were a GM and could see ahead 12 years, those are the 10 guys I'd draft. You're taking this way too seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 11/20/2016 at 4:23 PM, Time Lord said: Malkin over Ovechkin for sure. Malkin has more points per game in the regular season and playoffs and won the Conn Smythe when he won the cup. He's been a bit more consistent with just one season below a point per game compared to Ovechkin who's had two. Also, he's a center which is a more valuable position. Malkin Ovechkin Schneider Krejci Wheeler Rinne Dubnyk Ladd Streit Zajac HM: Dubinsky, Callahan lol i'm sure Ovechkin will have more points and win a cup by now if he ended up 2nd overall and went to pittsburgh.. also helps when most teams top pairing D is matched up against his other center.. crosby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Edler #1 Overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time Lord Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 On 22/11/2016 at 0:42 AM, wai_lai416 said: lol i'm sure Ovechkin will have more points and win a cup by now if he ended up 2nd overall and went to pittsburgh.. also helps when most teams top pairing D is matched up against his other center.. crosby.. I'm pretty sure Malkin produced more when Crosby was injured. He also doesn't need excuses like Ovechkin does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 14 hours ago, Time Lord said: I'm pretty sure Malkin produced more when Crosby was injured. He also doesn't need excuses like Ovechkin does it doesn't matter, Malkin is an elite player playing most of his career against 2nd pairings.. and also he's a play making center.. of coz he'll out produce a sniper any time any day anywhere... and what excuse Ovechkin used? pretty sure he blamed himself for most of the playoff lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergioMomesso Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Of the original top ten guys. Only two are still with their original teams that drafted them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 On 11/21/2016 at 8:23 AM, Time Lord said: Malkin over Ovechkin for sure. Malkin has more points per game in the regular season and playoffs and won the Conn Smythe when he won the cup. He's been a bit more consistent with just one season below a point per game compared to Ovechkin who's had two. Also, he's a center which is a more valuable position. That means Pittsburgh gets Ovi and Crosby. And Jordan Staal as their 2nd line center (or Toews if they decided to go with him). #PenguinsDynasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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