EdgarM Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Quote At least two teams are reportedly interested in acquiring the Sedins for their full cap hit and Canucks veterans could draw interest at the trade deadline. The Kings are looking to clear cap space by moving out Teddy Purcell. The ongoing struggles of the Vancouver Canucks this season generated some speculation over possible roster moves. In early November, it was reported GM Jim Benning was in the market for a 20-goal winger. At one point, the Canucks were linked to Buffalo Sabres left wing Evander Kane, but Benning reportedly ended that inquiry. By late-November, The Province's Jason Botchford suggested the Canucks could get an early start on deciding which players to move by the March 1 trade deadline. He felt veterans such as Ryan Miller, Alex Edler, Alexandre Burrows and perhaps even Daniel and Henrik Sedin could be on the move. Unless those players want out of Vancouver, however, that's not going to happen. All carry some form of a no-trade clause in their respective contracts. Benning tells Botchford he won't move them unless they ask to be dealt. Botchford said he knows of two teams that would be willing to acquire the Sedins for their full combined salary-cap hit of $14 million. If the Canucks were to pick up part of that cap hit (which runs through 2017-18), he thinks more clubs would be interested. The sticking point, of course, is the Sedins' willingness to be traded. So far, they've given no indication that they want out of Vancouver. As Botchford points out, such a move would likely have to take place in the off-season. Even if the Canucks put the Sedins on the block, they're unlikely to fetch a significant return. While they're still putting up solid numbers (17 points in 26 games), the 36-year-old twins are well past their prime. Teams aren't going to give up a lot for a couple of fading stars. Picks and prospects, sure, but nothing that would immediately reverse the Canucks' fortunes. As for Miller, he and Canucks management could be willing to work out a contract extension. Botchford's collegue Ben Kuzma doubts the Canucks place the 36-year-old goalie on the block by the trade deadline. Kuzma notes Miller's stats aren't great this season. However, he feels he'll still be a good fit with Jacob Markstrom, buying some time until promising goalie prospect Thatcher Demko is ready to move up. He wonders if Miller might be agreeable to a two- or three-year deal worth between $4-$4.5 million per season. That's a significant pay cut from Miller's current $6-million annual salary. Considering Miller's no longer an elite goaltender, he probably won't get much better than that on the open market. He could test next summer's free-agent market, but will likely find few decent offers. He could prefer to avoid uncertainty over his future by staying in Vancouver for a reasonable contract. http://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/news/rumor-roundup-canucks-veterans-shaping-up-to-be-trade-deadline-targets/ar-AAljqYW?li=AA54y7&ocid=spartanntp Just seen this on the web. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForsbergTheGreat Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 in 2018 maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Not unless its to Florida with us getting Lu back. A poster on another thread mentioned that under the CBA you can only have 2 players with retained salary, and we already have 1 with Lu, so the best we can do is retain 3.5 mil of their 14 in cap hit. Sorry have been corrected on this. We can have 3 retained salaries. (C) Under no circumstances may a Club: (1) Have in its Averaged Club Salary in any single League Year amounts attributable to more than three (3) Retained Salary SPCs for Players that the Club has Traded to other Club(s); or (2) Retain more than an amount equal to fifteen (15) percent of the Upper Limit for that League Year in allocated Averaged Amounts (as measured based on the full-season Averaged Amount of a Retained Salary SPC and calculated based on the maximum potential Averaged Amount of a Retained Salary SPC) (e.g., 15 percent of $70.2 million or $10.53 million in the 2012-13 League Year; 15 percent of $64.3 million or $9.645 million in the 2013-14 League Year; or $12 million if the Upper Limit equals $80 million) in the aggregate (i.e., for all such Retained Salary SPCs) in any one League Year; or http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/CBA2012/NHL_NHLPA_2013_CBA.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No. Bennington will be adding big pieces for the playoff drive. Rumours are Derek Roy and Dany Heatley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 So who are those two teams, and do they have the assets needed to get the Sedins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: No. Bennington will be adding big pieces for the playoff drive. Rumours are Derek Roy and Dany Heatley. Sarcasm fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 No. GMJB and Linden have both said that they wouldn't be moved unless they asked to be. The Twins have said they want to stay here, and wouldn't leave unless asked to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: Sarcasm fail. Except its not sarcasm. I am being dead serious. I would not be surprised in the least if JB went after a rental or 2 to try to squeeze into the last playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIBdaQUIB Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 1 minute ago, Incursio said: No. GMJB and Linden have both said that they wouldn't be moved unless they asked to be. The Twins have said they want to stay here, and wouldn't leave unless asked to. Mexican stand off. I would assume any team interested in the team would need to be a contender due to the expense and short term nature of their contracts. If someone called to inquire, I wonder if JB would even discuss it with the twins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerrDrFunk Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, RRypien37 said: Except its not sarcasm. I am being dead serious. I would not be surprised in the least if JB went after a rental or 2 to try to squeeze into the last playoff spot. Except for the fact that he hasn't done that the last two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish⑦Canuck Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Next season maybe. Not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 39 minutes ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: in 2018 maybe. Not even then. Can't people understand plain English: Canucks management has no plans to trade them either now or later. And I don't think that that is the usual GM-BS (I think that Jim actually meant it the several hundred times that he has said that he has no intention of trading them). The Canucks don't want to trade them and furthermore I don't think any other teams are either willing or able to cough up what would be an even trade. We should NOT get rid of them just to get rid of them (and settle for anything less than what they are worth - which is STILL a lot!). Retaining salary is another really stupid suggestion. Now, if we could just get a new infusion of talent (which I honestly believe that Trevor and Jim are working on). I think that they would be perfectly suited as a second line until the end of time (or until such time as they are no longer productive and ready to retire AS CANUCKS - which should be in another couple of decades). GCG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted December 8, 2016 Author Share Posted December 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, Scottish⑦Canuck said: Next season maybe. Not this year. I think if the price is right it would be foolish not to consider it. I wonder how badly the Twins want to win a cup? If they just want to ride out their contract here I would think they were not that interested and would rather collect their paychecks until retirement. Not sure I would want to witness that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 8, 2016 Share Posted December 8, 2016 Ok who has assets to sell, cap space to burn, and would be fighting for a playoff spot/cup run that they would overpay to get the twins? I think the answer is there is no team out there like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt.Clutch Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Does it bother anyone else seeing "Sedin's" used as plural all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanSeanBean Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Nope. They were drafted Canucks, they will retire Canucks. I would not be against trading them to a playoff team for the soul reason of seeing them win a cup, but I do not see it happening. There are few players I have ever witnessed that deserve a cup more then them *cough*Linden*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakanucks Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 So...let's say there are teams out there that will take the Sedins and their full cap.....so....what kinda crap are we expected to take back......and why would we want it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dral Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 Quote Botchford said he knows of two teams that would be willing to acquire the Sedins for their full combined salary-cap hit of $14 million. how to totally troll canucks fans FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
You Mad Bro? Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, RRypien37 said: Except its not sarcasm. I am being dead serious. I would not be surprised in the least if JB went after a rental or 2 to try to squeeze into the last playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 1 hour ago, HerrDrFunk said: Except for the fact that he hasn't done that the last two years. He also hasn't sold of veterans for prospects/picks MEANING mediocrity/middle of the pack fighting for the last playoff spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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