the_impersonator13 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 On 12/8/2016 at 3:02 PM, Pears said: So who are those two teams, and do they have the assets needed to get the Sedins? It's Botchford so no chance it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFBR392 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 If the Sedins asked for a trade to a contender, I'd support it 100%. I don't even care what we get back. I would just be happy watching those guys lift the cup. They frigging deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 14 minutes ago, the_impersonator13 said: It's Botchford so no chance it's true. Considering only Carolina has more than $14M in cap space (everyone else is less than $10M) and not so many teams would have a cap dump we'd even want to take back, I'd question just who those teams were and if the Sedins would ever consider even going to them. So yeah, I'm going to need to see a little lot more to back up this claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I can say this much about it the twins are happy here and want to stay but saying that they also want to win now not next year or the year after so come after christmas break I think they will sit down and either suggest we trade for a player or two to help now or by TDL will want to play for a winner reason's i say this you can tell last year and this year that both are frustrated and getting more unhappy so something could happen by TDL or if not and no big moves made by the draft i think they are great people and should be respected but in reality it is a business Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscience Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Is it possible to "rent" them at the deadline to a contender? say a first and prospect plus a couple 2nds. Then after the play offs we trade the 2nds back for the sedins. an agreement would have to be made before hand, but we get assetts, Team doesn't have to worry about 14milliom cap hit next year and we get them back for the start of next season. Win win win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Balboa Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Teams WILL call. JB will hang up on all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 37 minutes ago, Conscience said: Is it possible to "rent" them at the deadline to a contender? say a first and prospect plus a couple 2nds. Then after the play offs we trade the 2nds back for the sedins. an agreement would have to be made before hand, but we get assetts, Team doesn't have to worry about 14milliom cap hit next year and we get them back for the start of next season. Win win win Way to many moving parts to be realistic. First off an agreement like that made in advance would likely be viewed as collusion by the league. So that kills it right there. But let's say the league was ok with it. You'd have to find a team that could absorb 100% of the Sedins cap hit for the remainder of the year. Vancouver couldn't retain any of their salary because as soon as you do you're restricted from reaquiring that player for a year. I doubt there's a single contender that has that space. Next you need to convince the twins to waive their NMC's. They likely wouldn't consent to it without written assurance that their NMC's stay intact. So you have to do that twice and hope they consent to waive not once, but twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 botch also said on the last patcast episode that the Canucks were not willing to deal guddy but we're open to other d. then a week and a half later another gm told him that guddy was now possibly avail for the right price. believed to because of the play of stecher. either botch is a sports media genuis with his timings or he actually has actual insight. he was even raving how Willie took him a side and thanked him for asking such good questions during the press conferences. botch is quite the troll I love him lol. he is funny on the patcast. I would recommend checking out the latest one from the 6th or 7th to get a feel for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sounds like a wannabe Eklund gossip cult, with Blotch and pAtErSoN at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 21 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Sounds like a wannabe Eklund gossip cult, with Blotch and pAtErSoN at the helm. LOL its good entertainment. better then tsn ramblings. actually has a positive spin not like tsn negative Nancy 1040. reminds me of the positivity of our old radio broadcaster. was the bomb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 If the twins are respected by owners and management then they would ask them and not wait for the twins to say something on what team they want to win a cup with or try to and trade them to show them the ultimate respect at getting a cup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokes Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I'm still trying to figure out if Botch is a sports journalist or an opinion writer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 29 minutes ago, smokes said: I'm still trying to figure out if Botch is a sports journalist or an opinion writer? Putting labels like "journalist" or "writer" on him are being too kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice orca Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 On 09/12/2016 at 10:54 PM, Rocky Balboa said: Teams WILL call. JB will hang up on all of them. I bet Noone have called....14mill at 36 ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I've heard that both Montreal and St. Louis are the suitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiloFrenzy Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 Loosing fans day by day . going down the Grizzlie's road . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickyoursedin Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 It would cost the Canucks trading them off at 50% retained and taking back a bad contract to make it fit for a playoff team. Could really suck for the Canucks payroll because the twins are signed for next year also. All that aside I don't think management would sign off on paying the twins 7 million next year to play for somebody else. Hansen, Miller and Edler or Tanev should be moved for as much as possible this TDL and the twins should be traded the following year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 On 12/11/2016 at 7:44 PM, PhillipBlunt said: I've heard that both Montreal and St. Louis are the suitors. how exactly would either of them pull that off with zero cap space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senpai Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 On 12/9/2016 at 5:28 PM, elvis15 said: Considering only Carolina has more than $14M in cap space (everyone else is less than $10M) and not so many teams would have a cap dump we'd even want to take back, I'd question just who those teams were and if the Sedins would ever consider even going to them. So yeah, I'm going to need to see a little lot more to back up this claim. Well, keep in mind contracts are pro-rated, and teams wouldn't necessarily have to take on "14 million" at the deadline. In fact, I'm pretty sure it would only have to be like 7 million. They do have another year though, so the team would have to figure out something for next year, but a lot of teams that are going for it don't think about the future. If they won a cup, would it really matter? EDIT: Example, we trade them to the Bolts because of Stamkos' injury and cap relief, but he comes back first week of the playoffs (as they all do..) and they go on to win a cup. They probably lose Tyler Johnson (RFA though so they could still get something) and Bishop, but does it matter if they win the cup? It's a gamble, yeah, but that's what teams do. For the record though I do think any trade involving them would still involve something like 30% retained at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 The only way I see the Sedin's going to Montreal is the Canucks would have to take Emelin, and Radulov. Montreal would probably want a defenseman as well which means Hutton or Stetcher, which means they have to throw in McCarron, plus picks and/or Juulsen. Emelin would have to also agree to waive. So I don't think it's Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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