Johnny Shotgun Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Listening to some tunes on YouTube... let it play and Metallica comes into the picture. Didn't mind them ..."Enter Sandman"... but for a band that set the internet music sharing programs asunder they are frankly bad. For a greedy band they sure like to have their lyrics voiced back to them by the fans. Guess royalties are built into the ticket price. Going to rip the Black Album save Sandman and toss the rest. They rank up there with Nicklecrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 And your point is?.... That you think they suck? Thanks for letting us know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nux_win Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 To find the real value of Metallica you have to back before the Black (untitled) album. Try "...and Justice for All", or "Master of Puppets". You will find music there that will blow Nickleback back to the curb where they belong. I don't give a crap about the business side of things, it is all about the music, and at one time, they had it in spades. It's not for everyone but for those of us that need a bit of catharsis now and then, early Metallica is nothing short of amazing. "Enter Sandman" was OK but nowhere near their best work. Try "Fade to Black" or "Frayed ends of Sanity" or anything earlier than the Black album for that matter. My personal fave is "One" what an amazing and powerful song (both technically and emotionally). Metallica were once really good musicians that didn't sell out at all - they didn't go mainstream, mainstream came to them (well before they actually sold out). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 I have listened to all their stuff going back to tapes metallica is one group that is known more then most and have always had good music from start to now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, nux_win said: To find the real value of Metallica you have to back before the Black (untitled) album. Try "...and Justice for All", or "Master of Puppets". You will find music there that will blow Nickleback back to the curb where they belong. I don't give a crap about the business side of things, it is all about the music, and at one time, they had it in spades. It's not for everyone but for those of us that need a bit of catharsis now and then, early Metallica is nothing short of amazing. "Enter Sandman" was OK but nowhere near their best work. Try "Fade to Black" or "Frayed ends of Sanity" or anything earlier than the Black album for that matter. My personal fave is "One" what an amazing and powerful song (both technically and emotionally). Metallica were once really good musicians that didn't sell out at all - they didn't go mainstream, mainstream came to them (well before they actually sold out). Fair enough. I will take you up on your suggestion. The Nicklecrap reference was a low blow fueled by beer. Appreciate your comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanGnome Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 23 minutes ago, nux_win said: To find the real value of Metallica you have to back before the Black (untitled) album. Try "...and Justice for All", or "Master of Puppets". You will find music there that will blow Nickleback back to the curb where they belong. I don't give a crap about the business side of things, it is all about the music, and at one time, they had it in spades. It's not for everyone but for those of us that need a bit of catharsis now and then, early Metallica is nothing short of amazing. "Enter Sandman" was OK but nowhere near their best work. Try "Fade to Black" or "Frayed ends of Sanity" or anything earlier than the Black album for that matter. My personal fave is "One" what an amazing and powerful song (both technically and emotionally). Metallica were once really good musicians that didn't sell out at all - they didn't go mainstream, mainstream came to them (well before they actually sold out). In all fairness, Death Magnetic and their newest release, Hardwired to self destruct or whatever are phenomenal and harken back to the pre "Black Album" days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Comparing Metallica to Nickelback? Get your s**t together, kid. Sure, I haven't liked a single album they've done since "And Justice for All", because Bob Rock got his greasy little mitts in there and tried to give them commercial appeal by taking all the edge, angst, saddness, power and politics out of their music and turned them out like some boy band. I guess they wanted the game and their music took a s#*tty turn because of it. But go give a listen to anything produced prior to 1990 and you'll realize what a ridiculous and embarrassing comparison you made. Nickelback. Pffft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 33 minutes ago, VanGnome said: In all fairness, Death Magnetic and their newest release, Hardwired to self destruct or whatever are phenomenal and harken back to the pre "Black Album" days Pretty close, for sure. But the desperation's gone, they're too rich and successful to be angry, and it comes out in their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCanuck001 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Whaaaaatttt!!!! The black album is a classic. Every single off that album is amazing. I'd put it as their 3rd best album behind Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. Metallica are one of the best metal bands of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 I don't even mind some of their later work. The only outright terrible album they've dropped is St Anger. They simply set the bar absurdly high with their first four albums. Just don't actually pay them for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lionized27 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Stopped listening after "...And Justice for All". Every album up to and including this one are classic "must have". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 Different strokes....... I liked the black album, because Bob Rock cleaned it up so I could hear the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedestroyerofworlds Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 1 hour ago, gurn said: Different strokes....... I liked the black album, because Bob Rock cleaned it up so I could hear the lyrics. And a hint of Newsted's bass, which was drowned out by the wall of guitars in Justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 I never liked the singing about comic book monsters and stuff. When they finally grew up, became fathers and got rich, they get called sell-outs because they cant rock out in rage like they used to. Those early albums were good, but had that negative feeling to them. I was relieved when the Black one dropped and really liked the commercial Load and Reload too. St Anger pissed me right off, what a waste of 20 bucks. DM was not bad, but this new one.. woah, overproduced to death. Lars sounds like crap, tiny crap. Jame's vocals don't connect to the riffs anymore either. Too bad. Megadeth has blown past them in terms of being worth buying albums. My favorite was probably Youth. Other than Crazy train and Bad Moon rising, Enter Sandman and Symphony were the first songs I tried to learn on guitar. I still suck, but have 6 of them now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 People please: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckylager Posted December 12, 2016 Share Posted December 12, 2016 8 hours ago, thedestroyerofworlds said: And a hint of Newsted's bass, which was drowned out by the wall of guitars in Justice. They had to drown Newsted, he was a huge letdown compared to Burton. Burton fit with the band being a pure shredder and all. Newsted is boring as crap and essentially played rhythm bass, very rarely took it for a walk, let alone a run. He reminded me of "if Gumby played bass for a metal band" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Megadeth's 'Rust in Piece' Album is the epitome of thrash metal and my favorite metal album of all time. I can't imagine a metal band of Hetfield/Burton/Mustaine/ and any other drummer not named Lars. Guess the world was just not ready for such ferocity. \m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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