captaincowbasher Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 Firstly, Trade#1; This one has been speculated by team 1040 and makes complete sense for both teams, Tanev for Landeskog, this would be an excellent deal for both teams, total hockey trade, money works and both teams will miss their pieces but both teams need help in those specific areas, Vancouver needs a solid 20 goal scorer whom plays top minutes and has a aggressiveness-heavier style. Where as Colorado needs a high end defender that can play lots of minutes that can skate and move the puck. Secondly, Trade #2; This deal is great for both clubs because Edler gives the Flyers a #1 left defender that eats lots of minutes and pushes Del Zotto to the second pair making the Flyers defense more balanced. Schenn gives the Canucks another 20 goal scorer who can play in all situations and also plays a heavier style which we need to compete in this division. New look lines; Schenn Horvat Landeskog Sedin Sedin Hansen Baertschi Sutter Eriksson Skille Granlund Burrows lots of depth up front and 3 strong lines with great balance. Hutton Stetcher Sbisa Gudbranson Tryamkin Biega Defense looks young and weaker but I could see Benning taking another defender in the first round and with Juolevi and Brisebois probably making the team next year we need to move defenders to make room, so why not hurt now, get the 2 top 6 forwards we desperately need, Hutton, Stetcher and Tryamkin get big developmental minutes, we possibly get a top 5 overall pick in the draft in 2017 and with Brock Boeser coming next year hopefully, all of a sudden the light at the end of the tunnel becomes very evident. Thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstewboy Posted December 21, 2016 Share Posted December 21, 2016 It's funny how weak our D core looks once Edler and Tanev are permanently removed from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Toews Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Flyers don't need another LD. In fact with the prospects they have at defense its highly unlikely they make a trade for a defenseman. The Avs are having trouble scoring, trading one of the few top 6 forwards for a defenseman is not something they can afford to do. I think there is too much wrong with the Avs to be able to fix with trades. They need to blow that team up, not try and patch any holes as there are too many to fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 minute ago, Toews said: Flyers don't need another LD. In fact with the prospects they have at defense its highly unlikely they make a trade for a defenseman. The Avs are having trouble scoring, trading one of the few top 6 forwards for a defenseman is not something they can afford to do. I think there is too much wrong with the Avs to be able to fix with trades. They need to blow that team up, not try and patch any holes as there are too many to fix. 1040 guys were talking about the AV's needing to blow things up too. Sutter for Duchene should help them replace ROR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Alflives said: 1040 guys were talking about the AV's needing to blow things up too. Sutter for Duchene should help them replace ROR. That would be the opposite of blowing it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 7 minutes ago, Toews said: That would be the opposite of blowing it up. To heck with them. That's good for us, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 36 minutes ago, Alflives said: To heck with them. That's good for us, right? Sure. But the Avs don't live in the same bubble as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logic Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Alflives said: 1040 guys were talking about the AV's needing to blow things up too. Sutter for Duchene should help them replace ROR. Put down the glue, you really need to lay off that stuff. Every post I see you make leaves me shaking my head in wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazer8717 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 16 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: Sure. But the Avs don't live in the same bubble as you. We can dream though, can't we? 1 hour ago, Alflives said: 1040 guys were talking about the AV's needing to blow things up too. Sutter for Duchene should help them replace ROR. I could get on board with this trade. May have to sweeten it a little, Av's are pretty high on Duchene. Add J.Subban or Pedan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 1 hour ago, Toews said: Flyers don't need another LD. In fact with the prospects they have at defense its highly unlikely they make a trade for a defenseman. The Avs are having trouble scoring, trading one of the few top 6 forwards for a defenseman is not something they can afford to do. I think there is too much wrong with the Avs to be able to fix with trades. They need to blow that team up, not try and patch any holes as there are too many to fix. Yea. No excuses they should've been a contending team by now with all that young talent. Blow it up and build around Mackinnon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fateless Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 I'm okay with trading Tanev OR Edler. Not both. That defence is terrible and putting Juo in there is going to ruin his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 2 hours ago, Toews said: Flyers don't need another LD... And the Avs don't need another RHD. So there we have it, both trades don't really work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
komodo0921 Posted December 23, 2016 Share Posted December 23, 2016 On 12/21/2016 at 6:59 PM, Fateless said: I'm okay with trading Tanev OR Edler. Not both. That defence is terrible and putting Juo in there is going to ruin his development. I would rather trade Edler. On paper, at least, trading Tanev would make our d core seem unbalanced. I like his defensive dependability and feel it is Edler who has drug Tanev's game down a bit with bad mistakes and poor decision making. Without him as a defensive partner, I think Edler's defensive numbers would be back to the minus -39 of a couple seasons ago. Add to this, the fact that his offense has all but dried up and I see a player needing a change This being said, I don't think Philly would consider a deal involving Schenn, as he is key to their organization. I've been looking up prospects from other teams and one that I like is Nick Paul in the Ottawa organization. He's got good size, provides a bit of grit and is filling out nicely. I don't believe Edler gets it done by himself but, maybe an add would do it (not a draft pick). To be honest though, I'd be happy with a draft pick from whoever will take him. Could we get burned in a trade for a draft pick? Absolutely, but the fact is remains that he's not performing here, so in my estimation is a chance being taken by the trade partner, thus the harsh estimated trade value. Keeping Tanev maintains balance between offense and defense from the blueline. We keep the young guys and allow them the value of added ice time and responsibility that comes with it, to continue their development. i believe that, with a couple seasons of working together, this defense will come together as a cohesive unit and roles will become clear; All they need is time. Tryamkin Stetcher Hutton Tanev Juolevi Gudbranson Sbisa Obviously, there would be variations in pairings, but I believe that this could be a very solid core, moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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