Torts proving why he is a top coach?

[Westcoasting]

Different coaches need different players. Torts was fired from New York and then AV took over. Now remember the overwhelming majority of fans here thought AV was no good and too soft etc but then he took New York to a final with the same team as Torts. Now Torts is lighting it up again in Columbus. And Babcock is just average in Toronto...

 

It's more a chemistry game... the right players with the right coach who all work together on the same page.

[iinatcc]

So I guess this thread is vindicated?

 

 

[Mustapha]

On 23/12/2016 at 10:57 PM, elvis15 said:

I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some credit for getting the kids in line, but if they weren't scoring as well as they are this thread wouldn't be here. We saw pretty clearly how he too heavily relied on his top vets here (and had been doing so in New York) and the other mistakes he made so I wouldn't rush to give him all the credit in Columbus and call him a top coach. Clearly it's a good fit, but how much of that is Torts, how much is the young players and how much is just right place at the right time?

 

How much of it is people already making their mind up about Torts because of one bad season in Vancouver? The guy has been coaching in the NHL since before a lot of people on here were even born, but I guess we should summarize his entire career into a single season with a team that happened to have serious problems in the locker room.

 

As a head coach, the guy has taken his all of his other teams deep, the only team he didn't have playoff success with was the Canucks. I never understood why he got so much flak for the 'Calgary incident'. I would much rather see a fiery, passionate coach who cares than some robot who just stands there and fidgets like a cocaine addict.

 

You wouldn't rush to call him a 'top coach' but his coaching achievements and win totals are right up there with other top coaches, and when his career is over, he will most likely have somewhere between 600-700 wins, which puts him the top 15 all tine...not exactly a failure, probably will get a HHOF induction.

 

You never hear this crap about Joel Quenneville, despite the fact that he has had star players his entire time with Chicago. Columbus has been an well-oiled machine for weeks now, he's even getting production out of guys people thought were done. Freaking Sam Gagner has 26 points FFS (more than anyone on the Canucks) and he's FIFTH on his own team in points production. That alone deserves some credit.

 

 

 

 

 

[fivethej]

So much for all the Canucks fans and Vancouver media that crapped all over Torts when he was here. He's made you all look totally ridiculous, especially when he's done it without any big name players in Columbus. It just shows how bad Canucks really are. Torts didn't get a fair chance here at all. 

 

No truer words have ever been spoke about Canucks when Torts said they're "stale". I'm disappointed we never got to see Torts go one of his vintage, classic rants here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[N7Nucks]

I was upset we let him go after the management overhaul. He was right about this team. None of us wanted to hear it.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

Jack Adams trophy for him?

 

Still, I would rather he failed for the Blue Jackets - nothing personal against him - just would rather have a higher ranked 2nd round pick from that team (which we own).

[Fakename70]

On 2016-12-22 at 9:44 PM, Bob.Loblaw said:

Don't get ahead of yourself.  He had an extremely poor reputation going into this season and they were garbage at the start (opposite of us).  Wait this out and see if they make the playoffs.

 

Don't forget that when Alain Vigneault moved to the Rangers he turned them into cup finalists and President's Trophy winners.  He made the team better than under Tortorella.  He did poorly in Vancouver and he did VERY poorly for the US national team.  This is career revival/redemption or whatever you want to call it.  But do not deny that he had some rough years.

I don't think CBJ's poor showing last season was anything more than the growing pains of a new coach and new team. It happens. At least they had the stones to tough it out, unlike a certain other team. 

 

And, don't be so quick to dismiss his influence on AV's Rangers. It's not as if they were built from the ground up to his specifications. He definitely benefited far more in taking over Tort's Rangers than Torts did in taking over what AV left behind in Van City. 

[UFCanuck]

I loved watching his interviews while he was our coach, it was pure entertainment. 

 

AV and Willie D don't talk real to the media.

[RUPERTKBD]

On ‎12‎/‎26‎/‎2016 at 3:11 PM, iinatcc said:

So I guess this thread is vindicated?

 

 

No. Torts was never a fix in Vancity. It doesn't mean that he was a bad coach, just not suited to the type of team the Canucks were at the time.

 

Now he has a roster that suits his coaching style and is getting results, but he certainly is nowhere close to the "best Canucks coach of all time". IMHO, there are three contenders for that title, Vigneault, Quinn and Neilson.

[Mustapha]

6 hours ago, RUPERTKBD said:

No. Torts was never a fix in Vancity. It doesn't mean that he was a bad coach, just not suited to the type of team the Canucks were at the time.

 

Now he has a roster that suits his coaching style and is getting results, but he certainly is nowhere close to the "best Canucks coach of all time". IMHO, there are three contenders for that title, Vigneault, Quinn and Neilson.

 

"Best Canucks coach of all time" -you're right, there's no way that's true considering how short his stint there was.

 

However, if you look at his career to date, we are talking about a guy who has been coaching at the NHL level for nearly a quarter century. Not saying he's Al Arbour or Scotty Bowman, but he is a very accomplished and successful coach in his own right. He has paid his dues and has been around a LONG time, longer than many people know.