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12 minutes ago, GarthButcher5 said:

Just wondering we the Canucks can free Willie now???

 

The team once again weren't prepared for this game and really didn't even show up until the last five minutes. 

why do you want us to free Willie? Do you want us to start winning? Do you want us to tank? What do Canucks fans want? 

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1 minute ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

He did score last season. The stat image that Heretic.posted is only for this season.

Yeah, it was in response to someone saying he scored his second goal, so it looked as if he was implying that Tryamkin only had one.

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Well it's snowing like a mother &^@#er here in Calgary so hopefully the Canucks punishment is to have to stay an extra night in Cowtown.  I'm sure all the Canuck fans in Calgary who bought tickets to that gong show will not feel bad for them.  

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2 minutes ago, canuck2288 said:

Point is we needed to draft NHL ready kids before our franchise implodes. Canucks are not like the Leafs, the fans disappear out of the stands 

 

we ended up with non NHL ready kids. And we made outright errors 

 

Jake over Ehlers was an ERROR. Hands down error 

 

 

Only admission is the firing of JB first concede a missed opportunity. 

JB is out of sync with league right now an no light at end of tunnel is near.

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Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said:

Heretic probably thought the original post meant 'second goal of the season' instead of 'second goal of his career'.

Ah. Either way, you know it was a pretty weak night when you are discussing whether someone has one or two goals. :lol:

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3 minutes ago, Hectic said:

why do you want us to free Willie? Do you want us to start winning? Do you want us to tank? What do Canucks fans want? 

 

The thing is, I don't know what the team is doing. They claimed to be a playoff team at the start of the year. If so, they clearly don't have the coach to get them there. If the goal is to develop young players and be competitive, then the young players should be playing more in key situations. If the goal is to tank (I hope it isn't) then I guess Willie stays and eventually some players get traded for picks and prospects but Linden said they wouldn't do that.

All in all, this team has me confused.

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8 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said:

The team got in at 2am, they looked exhausted and un-motivated but most importantly, their simple skills weren't there which is something we've seen as a product of fatigue. Poor skating, very poor passing and bad clears. All signs of fatigue.

 

1) The Sedins looked the most tired of any Cancuk, their age really catching up to them in these rough back-to-backs. Eriksson simply has NO chemistry with them and I hope WD stops trying to beat that dead horse. He was brilliant with Sutter and Granlund - the one time he put those 3 together they get Sutter's great point blank chance and almost a 2-on-0. It doesn't take a blind person to see that. Demote the twins. Put Eriksson back with Granlund.

 

2) Horvat was our 1st line center tonight, he was really showing off some nice passing and playmaking and actually had a pretty good game. Set up 3 or 4 A-grade chances that no one could burry. Baertschi was to blame on the big 2nd Flames goal against and was pretty bad tonight, whiffed on a few chances and just didn't have the timing or usual spring in his step. Blaming fatigue on that one because he's been red-hot lately but at least this line is still getting chances. Stupid penalty by Burrows but at that point in the game I rather those penalties and a message being sent than just folding quietly like the rest of this team.

 

3) Sutter and Granlund were pretty bad with Chaput and Rodin on their wing but as soon as Eriksson was put back there they caught fire late in the 3rd. Sutter still played hard.

 

4) Chaput had a great game, Gaunce was the same-old non-flashy player and Skille had a modest game. Average for 4th liners but Chaput is really making the most of his chances with some nice passes and plays. Anton Rodin was terrible, not sure if he was injured or benched but apart from one or two good shifts really didn't do much. Hopefully WD puts him with the twins for a short period of time.

 

5) Tryamkin actually had his best game in a while defensively and offensively of course, not much physical play. Biega was average. Tanev and Sbisa were brilliant. Hutton was slightly sub-par in his performance below average (lots of passes that didn't connect, bad keep-ins on the PP and couldn't clear many times). He looked tired. Stecher again played a strong game, good skating and passing despite the fatigue that everyone else is showing. Games like tonight, where he's the only one who can string a clear pass together and skate well, show why he's going to be our MVP on defence and take the reins off Edler as early as next year. In a 3-1 game, he's the one trying the hardest chipping the puck to himself, getting high sticked then rushing into the offensive zone. Everyone should take notes from this kid.

 

6) Gotta feel bad for Markstrom, can't really be blamed for many of the goals, and he made some huge saves. I think all the goalies get a free pass this year with this brutal defence that simply can't tie up guys in front of the net or protect the cross-crease pass.

 

7) Hard to blame WD for this loss apart from the bad lines. His group came out strong in the 3rd but were clearly physically too exhausted. They need a break, then they desperately need some practices to get back to basics and learn how to string passes together like they were doing in the first few games of the season.

 

 

TL;DR - chalk this one up to fatigue, Eriksson needs to be playing with Granlund if we want any chance, lets try Rodin with Horvat or H. Sedin and get back to basics.

Wow look at you making excuses for this tragedy of a team. Win one. Lose one. Repeat. By this point of the schedule if they had it in them to maintain a winning attitude that goes beyond cycling through wins and losses we would have seen it.

 

 

We are stagnating hard When it comes to having a winning attitude and it starts with the players, the so called leaders, Sedins, the coaches, and the management. Everyone is $&!#ting the bed and failing to execute their respective jobs properly so this is the mess the fans are left with.

 

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Just now, canuck2288 said:

Point is we needed to draft NHL ready kids before our franchise implodes. Canucks are not like the Leafs, the fans disappear out of the stands 

 

we ended up with non NHL ready kids. And we made outright errors 

 

Jake over Ehlers was an ERROR. Hands down error 

 

 

A franchise doesn't take one year to implode, it has been like this before the WCE era.

 

 

Virt and Ehlers are completely different players that have completely different development programs on completely different teams. A power forward traditionally takes more time than a skill player like Ehlers. There's so many players like Ehlers, you can draft one pretty easily in the top 10. If we END the evaluation of both players at 20, it's not fair to Virt because he hasn't fully developed into a NHL'er. Patience is key to a rebuild but most of this fanbase doesn't have it. Also, obsessing over something we don't have is a waste of time and creates uneeded panic. Let's focus on the guys we have and go from there.

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