JV77 Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 I saw the movie Snowden last night and got the details of him and what he did. Good movie and I knew broadly of his story when it came out. So I gotta ask, is he a hero? Or a traitor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, JV77 said: I saw the movie Snowden last night and got the details of him and what he did. Good movie and I knew broadly of his story when it came out. So I gotta ask, is he a hero? Or a traitor? Who is he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Share Posted December 26, 2016 53 minutes ago, Alflives said: Who is he? Worked for CIA and leaked classified NSA documents of surveillance programs of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 59 minutes ago, Alflives said: Who is he? This guy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 1 minute ago, JV77 said: Worked for CIA and leaked classified NSA documents of surveillance programs of the US. Did he die in a tragic "accident" while cleaning his barbecue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 2 minutes ago, Monty said: This guy: If he did what he did, where is the bullet hole? Usually the Americans don't put up with this stuff, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master 112 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Yeah I don't know him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCountry18 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Hero obviously. He leaked footage of the NSA recording people without their consent on common household devices with cameras (laptops, computers, webcams, etc.) For example, Hot girls changing in their room right in front of their laptop unknowingly being recorded (fapped to) by NSA agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Alflives said: If he did what he did, where is the bullet hole? Usually the Americans don't put up with this stuff, do they? It's why he is living in Russia, he basically fled as soon as what he did, came out. He's being protected in Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, BigCountry18 said: Hero obviously. He leaked footage of the NSA recording people without their consent on common household devices with cameras (laptops, computers, webcams, etc.) For example, Hot girls changing in their room right in front of their laptop unknowingly being recorded (fapped to) by NSA agents. I don't get how people have an issue with what he did, he wouldn't of had to do what he did, if the NSA wasn't doing what they were doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesFromHome Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 6 minutes ago, Justdean10 said: I don't get how people have an issue with what he did, he wouldn't of had to do what he did, if the NSA wasn't doing what they were doing. Breaking the law to expose those breaking the law possibly. Me personally, no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 13 minutes ago, Justdean10 said: It's why he is living in Russia, he basically fled as soon as what he did, came out. He's being protected in Russia. So he's going to live in Russia for the rest of his life? How is he paying for this protection? There is more here than we get to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: So he's going to live in Russia for the rest of his life? How is he paying for this protection? There is more here than we get to know. his gf or maybe wife I don't know.. lives there with him I believe. Generally when you are a genius, like him, you don't have to pay to be places.They want you their helping them. I'm sure he's working. Who knows though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, Justdean10 said: his gf or maybe wife I don't know.. lives there with him I believe. Generally when you are a genius, like him, you don't have to pay to be places.They want you their helping them. I'm sure he's working. Who knows though. So a guy makes the NSA look criminal, and hides in Russia. Hmmmm...I'd say there is a definite connection between what he did, and Russian support. Did he release this information prior to Russian protection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Just now, Alflives said: So a guy makes the NSA look criminal, and hides in Russia. Hmmmm...I'd say there is a definite connection between what he did, and Russian support. Did he release this information prior to Russian protection? yeah I believe he actually went somewhere else first, and then went to go to another place but had a stop over in Russia and then they his passport got cancelled so he was stuck in Russia.. from what he says, he had no intentions of staying Russia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 L 1 hour ago, Justdean10 said: yeah I believe he actually went somewhere else first, and then went to go to another place but had a stop over in Russia and then they his passport got cancelled so he was stuck in Russia.. from what he says, he had no intentions of staying Russia. Or so he says. I would question his motives, opportunity, and planned release of the information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCanuck Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 hes a hero but losing credibility by talking to the russians. what he did was expose the NSA as a whistleblower, and whistleblowers shouldnt be treated like criminals or as treason. Hed more or less face the death penalty if he came back to the USA especially with trump in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymond Luxury Yacht Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Alflives said: So a guy makes the NSA look criminal, and hides in Russia. Hmmmm...I'd say there is a definite connection between what he did, and Russian support. Did he release this information prior to Russian protection? He went to a few countries first, I can't he say he did or didn't do anything in the name of Mother Russia, but his travel was well documented and he isn't necessarily "free" in Russia. I doubt it has anything to do with them. He should have made a better plan, if he played his cards right, he could have used domestic support within the US to force a pardon for doing what many believe was the right thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JV77 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 4 hours ago, Alflives said: So a guy makes the NSA look criminal, and hides in Russia. Hmmmm...I'd say there is a definite connection between what he did, and Russian support. Did he release this information prior to Russian protection? Putin and Russia have granted him asylum for 3 years, and I'm they are using him for information. His plan was to actually get to Latin American such as Ecuador where they have granted him permanent asylum. But the problem is getting there because there are no direct flights out of Russia and he can't take the chance with connecting flights because they may give him up to America. But it may get very interesting when Trump officially comes to power and he may request to Putin to give him Snowden because of their supposed friendship. Trump has been on record to even saying Snowden should be executed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 should have a poll. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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