I hope the management see this post

[hockeydude474]

You have "been the Canucks fans for over 20 years" wtf? This is news to me. So really there are no autonomous, individual, Canuck fan entities. They are all just ruled by a supreme being who manifests itself through an aesthetic based on discrete entities (person) which call themselves fans of the Canucks? In other words, for the past 20 years, I have been under the impression that the Canuck fan base is comprised of individual actors who each, under their own free will, decide to root for the Vancouver Canucks. However, now, this expectation has been thwarted by the revelation that YOU are in fact a single entity who has been posing as all of these actors (fans) all at once.

 

Now I think I understand why they say 'we are all Canucks'....

 

This is horrifying.

[Hectic]

Posts like these are the reason that management does NOT read the message boards lol 

[DSVII]

If management ever took notes from a fan message board, then they deserve to get fired. 

[Johnny Shotgun]

6 hours ago, xereau said:

 

 

Benning inherited an emotionally dysfunctional train wreck chock full of no trade clauses.

 

Not emotionally but a physically dysfunctional team not really capable of playing in the NHL....or in other words not really good enough.

[IBatch]

10 hours ago, Nucks4Live said:

I have been the Canucks fans for over 20 years from the Era of Bure/Mogilny/Linden to the Naslund/Bertuzzi/Morrison to the Sedins/Kesler. The Canucks always have a dominant line that excite us night in and night out. Since Jim took over as GM back in May 2014, I have seen some great things being done by the management discovering and brining in new blood to the team for a longer term development. And yet there are moves that I really don't understand and I think is destroying the team.

 

I THINK WE ARE TRADING FOR PLAYERS TO FIT A SYSTEM THAT DOESN'T WORK, A SYSTEM THAT LACK IDENTITY, AND A SYSTEM THAT HAVE YET PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE NHL LEVEL.

 

Here are some things I notice:

1) we traded Kesler  for Bonino and Sbisa. Both are proven to be good players, Bonino helped the Penguins to the Stanley cup final on the HBK Line, Sbisa is still in the plus 7, when as a team we are -23 on goal for and goal against difference. We then traded Bonino out for Sutter, who is also a good two way players. But why make this move in the first place? Obviously Bonino last year proven that he can scores and play in key situations. So if its not the player's fault, then who is it?

2) We did a good signing with Vrbata back in 2014 who got 63 points with the Sedins, why take him off the line last year? He is still scoring 22 points right now with the Arizona. The letting go of Vrbata led to the big contract signing of Eriksson that uses a lot of the cap space. If Vrbata can still scores and contribute, then who fault is it for not using the player effectively and finding the right line?

3) The only move that I am not so happy about is we have a high pick at 4th this year and we didn't pick Matthew Tkachuk, a power forward we badly needed. Otherwise I think we did good trading for Gudbranson, and brining in Tryamkin, and Stecher. These are all the good young players that contributing night in and night out.

4) In the beginning of the year, we make 4 straight wins with a lot of comebacks win. All the players keep saying in the post game interview that they believe in the system and that it works. Honestly, what is the system now? Fast transition games with no defense? Look at the game with Carolina where we gave up 6 goals in the 3rd period is really unacceptable at the NHL level.

 

Before we let go Alain Vigneault, we have a very strong defensive game that allows the forward to score and win. You look at all the good experience successful coaches do to a bad team.

Look at what Bruce Boudreau do to Minnesota Wilds, the team is now 21-8 this year, they only added Eric Staal to the roster and bought out Thomas Vanek, and Eric Staal's is now leading Minnesota Wild scoring with 28 points. Look at what Alain Vigneault did to NY Rangers since he took over, the team is in the Playoffs every year, back then Rangers was just a team that like to sign star players with big bucks and never get into playoffs. Look at what John Tortorella did to the Blue jackets, the team is first in the Metropolitan division.

Barry Trotz is known to play a sound defensive system, the system created star goalies like Braden Holtby and Pekka Rinne. The list can goes on and on with what good coaches can do to the team

 

I understand that Willie D is very good at developing young players, I can see that with Ben hutton, Bo horvat etc. BUT THIS DOESN'T MEAN HIS SYSTEM CAN HELP HIS TEAM WIN IN NHL LEVEL. Jim Bennings and Linden obviously is trying very hard to find the "right players" at the right price to try and satisfy the coaching needs. The problem is that our team already have a lot of "right players", but the person running the team really don't have much clue on how to combining them effectively.

 

Willie D is at best an assistant coach to help develop young players, but you need a proven NHL coach to know what to do with line combinations, clearly define the team identity, and to know what to do in key situations to turn around the game momentum when needed. Honestly, I think 2 years are long enough time you give to a coach to try, If you were to make a coaching change its NOW. at least you have the second half of the season to work out the lines and players under the new coach so we can start making minor changes this off season and start winning next year.

 

The worst thing that can happen now is Jim and Linden kept making moves and trading away good players so they can try and fit in to a system that doesn't work, or has yet proven to work.

 

PS Not hard feeling Willie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you were a fan when Bure Mogilny were around then how come you dont mention the dark ages after they left... When Gelinas was our leading scorer and we had a revolving door of has been goalies... When the team was way worse for a while then it is today... And had some terrible players like Ciccone dress for a few games before more terrible players were brought in.   For a couple years in-between cores this club was dreadful...Guess you forgot.  

[Rocksterh8]

10 hours ago, Twilight Sparkle said:

I'm management and I don't like the post

 

Your management with an icon like that? I'm Humpty Dumpty

[CeeBee51]

Reading some of this thread...... provided me with a seriously enjoyable morning plus my first cup o java for the day. Well Done Y'all 

[Neko]

6 hours ago, Hectic said:

Posts like these are the reason that management does NOT read the message boards lol 

Wait, wasn't this why AV was fired?

[CanadianRugby]

12 hours ago, Rocky Balboa said:

lol sick gif RB

[Ghostsof1915]

10 hours ago, riffraff said:

Think I'll go ahead and eat another Nanaimo bar.

 

That's the answer. Now what was the question?

[Ghostsof1915]

1 hour ago, Rocksterh8 said:

 

Your management with an icon like that? I'm Humpty Dumpty

 

That would explain why you're cracked some of the time. 

[riffraff]

6 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said:

 

That's the answer. Now what was the question?

 

No question needed 

[luckylager]

10 hours ago, Aircool said:

 

While I was going for LOLs with the post in general, I can't claim that Capiche was an intentional laugh. Because: 

It's not a random way of spelling it, it's the correct way of spelling it. Capiche?

 

http://grammarist.com/spelling/capiche

I've been living a lie! I'd Webster's it, but grammarist has a way cool name.

 

Lesson learned. Tapioca

[snucks]

Management could care less about this forum. They are content with a few empty seats and like their coach.

[luckylager]

10 hours ago, riffraff said:

 

You seriously don't enjoy a  Nanaimo bar sans 'erb!?!?

 

correct on the rest.

 

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benning looks like he enjoys a Nanaimo bar after a plate of meat n spuds 

Can't eat em. Maybe I choked on one as a kid or something and am subsequently scarred for life, or maybe it's just the pudding sandwiched between coconut and a brownie. There's a lot going on in a Naniamo bar, and I don't like any of it.

[riffraff]

2 minutes ago, luckylager said:

Can't eat em. Maybe I choked on one as a kid or something and am subsequently scarred for life, or maybe it's just the pudding sandwiched between coconut and a brownie. There's a lot going on in a Naniamo bar, and I don't like any of it.

 

I can see your point especially as I normally do not enjoy anything coconut related.

 

it must come down to individual recipe.  For example my moms were deadly and had very minimal coconut which would be overwhelmed by the extra chocolate topping.

 

one of my neighbours became aware of my penchant for this treat.  (Her daughter minds my kids at times).  Anyway, for the last two Christmas she has hooked me up with at least three dozen bars.  Her recipe, (with no input from me) involves minimal coconut as well.

 

part of the enjoyment for me is I usually ingest in two bites tops.

 

but I only really eat them at this time of year.  I maybe have one during the rest.

 

what is your favourite holiday baked good sans 'erb? 

[coryberg]

[smithers joe]

i can't fathom, how some people believe that only they knows how to fix the team. and how management is blind and doesn't have a clue. what they are really saying, is that they are not building the team the way they would.

benning and company, have said that, they have a plan and that they will stick to it. will WD, be the coach going forward? maybe not but as they go through their plan, willie is the right coach for this team right now. if they move willie out and the new coach doesn't improve the team, do we let them go too. 

we all know that it will be a couple of years before our fortunes turn around. patience  with benning, linden, willie and the rest of the coaching staff is important. once the team has better talent then, changes can be made. 

otherwise we are just going sideways.

[NewbieCanuckFan]

Not my words (hence the quotes....) but something a poster said on another board that speculates what Benning might say:

 

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“It looks like we’re not going to make the playoffs this year,” Vancouver Canucks general manager Jim Benning said during a break in trade discussions this week. “But in my heart, I really believe if we’d had Derek Dorsett the whole year and Eric Gudbranson didn’t get hurt, we’d be right there. We’re fifteen wins out from being in the playoffs.”

 

[Aircool]

2 hours ago, smithers joe said:

i can't fathom, how some people believe that only they knows how to fix the team. and how management is blind and doesn't have a clue. what they are really saying, is that they are not building the team the way they would.

benning and company, have said that, they have a plan and that they will stick to it. will WD, be the coach going forward? maybe not but as they go through their plan, willie is the right coach for this team right now. if they move willie out and the new coach doesn't improve the team, do we let them go too. 

we all know that it will be a couple of years before our fortunes turn around. patience  with benning, linden, willie and the rest of the coaching staff is important. once the team has better talent then, changes can be made. 

otherwise we are just going sideways.

 

I think it's very easy to criticize management correctly. Our team is worse than when they came in, we have more bad contracts on the books, and our prospect pool is not NEARLY good enough to justify this. Pretty simple really.