Alflives Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, oldnews said: Derp. There's nothing 'complex' about corsi furball. It's the plus/minus of shot attempts. So, plus minus - without the goals. Just shots. Hope that helps. My point was that Gaunce is actually playing well considering his role. I think Rodin is done. This new guy seems more of a Rodin replacement than a Gaunce replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, Alflives said: My point was that Gaunce is actually playing well considering his role. I think Rodin is done. This new guy seems more of a Rodin replacement than a Gaunce replacement. Hasn't Rodin only played like 3 games? He's been recovering from an injury that I'm pretty sure he aggravated by coming back early. Give the guy a break lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, S'all Good Man said: I suppose I'd say to @oldnewswhat good is that if he's invisible on the score sheet and isn't living up to his 1st round draft hopes? And I'd just repost the obvious - that a rookie playing the kind of minutes he is - with 23.1% offensive zone starts (and great possession numbers) - isn't judged on production alone, particularly when he's also been playing with the NHL's youngest blueline for long stretches. You don't judge players with this kind of deployment (ie did you judge Malhotra on production) on the "score sheet." If he is sent down it's simply because the team doesn't want to lose any assets to waivers and are dealing with a handful of lost forwards. "Invisible" is a compliment for a player in his role - and tbh, if you haven't noticed him, that may just be your own perception - and what you look for. Gaunce may be better served by playing more than 10 minutes a night on a top AHL line as opposed to developing his shutdown skills on our 4th line - but one thing is for certain - he's done a very good job of what he's been asked. 18 hours ago, oldnews said: Scoring goals isn't necessarily the role or expectation of Gaunce (or Chaput) at this point though. Would be nice, but at the same time, a rookie with the lowest ozone starts and one of the best shot attempt differentials - suggest that the fourth line is doing their job - limiting chances/goals against, generating territory and whenever possible, spending time in the attacking zone. It's a pretty good ground for a future shutdown or middle six two way forward imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, Alflives said: My point was that Gaunce is actually playing well considering his role. I think Rodin is done. This new guy seems more of a Rodin replacement than a Gaunce replacement. So you think Rodin is done given the 2 games he's played this year? The guy just got back from a serious injury, is basically a rookie in the NHL and hasn't played bad in his 2 games. Rodin isn't going anywhere anytime soon, he is more talented than Gaunce/Megna/Chaput. I don't see JB waiving Rodin. They are being cautious with Rodin, who has missed half a year and just coming off a major injury. They aren't going to rush him into big minutes or playing consecutive games until he gets into proper game shape.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 I think they assigned Pedan a few days ago did they not? Was anyone recalled/activated into his roster spot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 hour ago, ThrustyPrusty89 said: I don't know much about this guy (great name though). Why does his addition make you think Gauncer's on his way out? Because he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, oldnews said: And I'd just repost the obvious - that a rookie playing the kind of minutes he is - with 23.1% offensive zone starts (and great possession numbers) - isn't judged on production alone, particularly when he's also been playing with the NHL's youngest blueline for long stretches. You don't judge players with this kind of deployment (ie did you judge Malhotra on production) on the "score sheet." If he is sent down it's simply because the team doesn't want to lose any assets to waivers and are dealing with a handful of lost forwards. "Invisible" is a compliment for a player in his role - and tbh, if you haven't noticed him, that may just be your own perception - and what you look for. Gaunce may be better served by playing more than 10 minutes a night on a top AHL line as opposed to developing his shutdown skills on our 4th line - but one thing is for certain - he's done a very good job of what he's been asked. Agree pretty much. It would be nice to see Gaunce using his size a bit more adding more physicality to his game though. Very happy with his defensive game / skating though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 any highlights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Guy can obviously fire the puck. 62 goals in Sarnia. Good production in the AHL. I'm guessing this came down to that, as well as being a grittier player than Rattie - probably more suited to a bottom 6 role - and being a LW, fits a longer term organizational need better. The fact the Predators also claimed this young guy - looking at the kind of forward prospect depth they already had - says something as well. I trust Benning et al's judgement on this - taking him over Rattie. Welcome to Van. Looking forward to seeing what he can do. Tempers the loss of Etem, who isn't playing this year anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tortorella's Rant said: Because he sucks. Based on what again? Ohhhh you're looking at stats So computer screens and opinions. Gotcha http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=76290 Ya, pretty terrible for a 22 year old 4th line player. When you only look at computer screens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 17 minutes ago, Silky mitts said: Rather have had rattie tbh. but Reid has more meat and potatoes for jimbo's taste Why? Not arguing, just curious. I know nothing about Rattie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, J.R. said: We offer opportunity to play and are the team to draft him and give him a second chance. It's not likely there'll be crap tons of competition for signing him either. Other possible aspect -- no rush to showcase Rodin with the expansion draft looming. Keep him low key for now, resign and have him come in fully ready next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbean30 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Just now, S'all Good Man said: Why? Not arguing, just curious. I know nothing about Rattie. I'm assuming cause Rattie was a star in the WHL a few years back for the Portland Winterhawks. He was a really good player, and he made team Canada's World Junior team. I don't think Rattie has been able to carry on his success that he had for Portland in the W though, but I also haven't followed him since he left the WHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, J.R. said: Eriksson or Boucher with Horvat though? I still wouldn't mind seeing Eriksson on Horvat's wing either. Sedin, Sedin, Rodin Baer, Horvat, Eriksson Granlund, Sutter, Boucher Could work as well. Those RW's could work just about anywhere! Burr back on the 4th when he's back...? My first reaction was Boucher with Horvat rather than disrupt the Sutter line (which is probably why they won't change that) but I'd like to see Eriksson there as well. As for what happens when Burr is back, that'll depend on how Rodin and Boucher do. Burr could go straight back with Horvat if either of them aren't doing well. Or if Rodin is doing well but they still want to give him a rest here and there, Burr could go with the Sedins temporarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckledraggin Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 12 minutes ago, oldnews said: I think they assigned Pedan a few days ago did they not? Was anyone recalled/activated into his roster spot? Looking at the roster it appears nobody needs to be moved to make room until someone returns from injury. https://www.nhl.com/canucks/roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, canuckledraggin said: Looking at the roster it appears nobody needs to be moved to make room until someone returns from injury. https://www.nhl.com/canucks/roster From a roster limit standpoint, perhaps not. From a playing time standpoint however... 2 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: Other possible aspect -- no rush to showcase Rodin with the expansion draft looming. Keep him low key for now, resign and have him come in fully ready next year. Possibly has a small impact on it. I still think we're only planning on keeping one of him/Baer/Granlund. 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: My first reaction was Boucher with Horvat rather than disrupt the Sutter line (which is probably why they won't change that) but I'd like to see Eriksson there as well. As for what happens when Burr is back, that'll depend on how Rodin and Boucher do. Burr could go straight back with Horvat if either of them aren't doing well. Or if Rodin is doing well but they still want to give him a rest here and there, Burr could go with the Sedins temporarily. Yup to all that. Be interesting to see what WD does with all these interchangeable parts. WHatever it is, CDC will be sure to bitch though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Agree pretty much. It would be nice to see Gaunce using his size a bit more adding more physicality to his game though. Very happy with his defensive game / skating though. He has the most hits of any of our forwards. I think he's been quite effective physically; any more aggression would lead to him being out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: He has the most hits of any of our forwards. I think he's been quite effective physically; any more aggression would lead to him being out of position. And/or in the penalty box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyg43 Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 1 minute ago, elvis15 said: He has the most hits of any of our forwards. I think he's been quite effective physically; any more aggression would lead to him being out of position. I agree he has done all that Willie has asked of him with his very limited minutes.I really would like see him given more time an bumped up a line frequently to see how he fares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 4, 2017 Share Posted January 4, 2017 Sedin - Sedin - Hansen Boucher - Sutter - Eriksson Baertschi - Horvat - Rödin Burrows - Gaunce/Granlund - Skille That ain't that bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.