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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fort-lauderdale-shooting-five-killed-airport-shooting-gunman-idd-esteban-n704001

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A lone shooter opened fire Friday afternoon at Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport in Florida, killing five people and wounding eight others before he was taken into custody, the Broward County sheriff said.

The suspected gunman appeared to be shooting randomly into a crowd in a lower floor of Terminal 2 as panicked travelers took cover behind chairs — and he only stopped when his bullets ran out, according to witnesses.

Multiple senior law enforcement sources identified the suspect as New Jersey born Esteban Santiago, 26, and said he had a military ID on him. The military said he had served in the Puerto Rico National Guard and was deployed to Iraq for 10 months.

"We still have people fighting for their lives in the hospital," Florida Gov. Rick Scott said.

Law enforcement officials told NBC News they believe Santiago flew Delta from Anchorage, Alaska and caught a connecting Delta flight from Minneapolis-St. Paul to Fort Lauderdale, where he picked up his firearm at baggage claim and began the shooting spree. Federal guidelines allow for passengers to check unloaded guns in a locked case, and also allows for ammunition to be placed in checked baggage.

This report from NBC corrects the original report of the suspect arriving on Air Canada flight

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21 minutes ago, Alflives said:

He had a gun is his luggage?  Wtf?  

 

What's strange about this? You're allowed to bring a gun in checked baggage, just not allowed to carry it on.

 

As long as you're legally permitted to carry at the point of departure and the point of arrival.

 

This guy's flight originated in Anchorage, Alaska to Ft Lauderdale, FL. He went through TSA security in Alaska and at no time was he on Canadian soil.

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19 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said:

Suspect in airport shooting was not a passenger on Canadian flight per Global Affairs.

Yeah Air Canada tweeted that they have no record of that passeneger name or of any checked in guns.

 

Trying to make Canada look like they're to blame

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NOT TRUE

 

As per the Canadian Embassy and reported on FOX news, the shooter did NOT travel from Canada and was NOT travelling on a Canadian Airline.

 

The shooter came on a flight from Alaska, transiting in Minneapolis before landing in Fort Lauderdale.

 

 

#FortLauderdale suspect did not fly from Canada and was not on a Canadian flight. There is no Canadian connection

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11 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

WTF? From what airport?

 

Scary thing is it wouldn't be hard to mask something like that in checked luggage, even with x-ray screening of all bags. 

 

Why would you need to mask it?

 

Transporting Firearms and Ammunition

You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be easily opened are not permitted. Be aware that the container the firearm was in when purchased may not adequately secure the firearm when it is transported in checked baggage.

Contact the TSA Contact Center with questions you have regarding TSA firearm regulations and for clarification on what you may or may not transport in your carry-on or checked baggage.

 

Firearms

  • When traveling, comply with the laws concerning possession of firearms as they vary by local, state and international governments.
  • Declare each firearm each time you present it for transport as checked baggage. Ask your airline about limitations or fees that may apply.
  • Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock.
  • Firearm parts, including magazines, clips, bolts and firing pins, are prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
  • Replica firearms, including firearm replicas that are toys, may be transported in checked baggage only.
  • Rifle scopes are permitted in carry-on and checked baggage.
 

United States Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 44, firearm definitions includes: any weapon (including a starter gun) which will, or is designed to, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; the frame or receiver of any such weapon; any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; and any destructive device. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm.

 

Ammunition

  • Ammunition is prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
  • Firearm magazines and ammunition clips, whether loaded or empty, must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm. Read the requirements governing the transport of ammunition in checked baggage as defined by 49 CFR 175.10 (a)(8).
  • Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition

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13 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

WTF? From what airport?

 

Scary thing is it wouldn't be hard to mask something like that in checked luggage, even with x-ray screening of all bags. 

He checked in his gun. It wasn't hidden. You are allowed to check in you gun and take it along when travelling. That's what hunters routinely do. 

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Felt threatened by the large crowds.  it was self defense.  Stand your ground right Florida?

 

'Murica

 

Seriously though...wtf how does this person get a GUN AND AMMO through one of the most heavily screened entries in the world?

 

Prepare for any and all travel out of canada/America to get even harder or more invasive

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Just now, nuckin_futz said:

 

Why would you need to mask it?

 

Transporting Firearms and Ammunition

You may transport unloaded firearms in a locked hard-sided container as checked baggage only. Declare the firearm and/or ammunition to the airline when checking your bag at the ticket counter. The container must completely secure the firearm from being accessed. Locked cases that can be easily opened are not permitted. Be aware that the container the firearm was in when purchased may not adequately secure the firearm when it is transported in checked baggage.

Contact the TSA Contact Center with questions you have regarding TSA firearm regulations and for clarification on what you may or may not transport in your carry-on or checked baggage.

 

Firearms

  • When traveling, comply with the laws concerning possession of firearms as they vary by local, state and international governments.
  • Declare each firearm each time you present it for transport as checked baggage. Ask your airline about limitations or fees that may apply.
  • Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock.
  • Firearm parts, including magazines, clips, bolts and firing pins, are prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
  • Replica firearms, including firearm replicas that are toys, may be transported in checked baggage only.
  • Rifle scopes are permitted in carry-on and checked baggage.
 

United States Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 44, firearm definitions includes: any weapon (including a starter gun) which will, or is designed to, or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive; the frame or receiver of any such weapon; any firearm muffler or firearm silencer; and any destructive device. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm.

 

Ammunition

  • Ammunition is prohibited in carry-on baggage, but may be transported in checked baggage.
  • Firearm magazines and ammunition clips, whether loaded or empty, must be securely boxed or included within a hard-sided case containing an unloaded firearm. Read the requirements governing the transport of ammunition in checked baggage as defined by 49 CFR 175.10 (a)(8).
  • Small arms ammunition, including ammunition not exceeding .75 caliber and shotgun shells of any gauge, may be carried in the same hard-sided case as the firearm.

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/transporting-firearms-and-ammunition

 

Jesus H. 

 

Yah, better 'build a wall'. That'll keep you safe. 

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25 minutes ago, JV77 said:

Yeah Air Canada tweeted that they have no record of that passeneger name or of any checked in guns.

 

Trying to make Canada look like they're to blame

Not sure it would be Canada's fault even if the shooter had travelled on a Canadian Airline. Why would it be Canada's fault?

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4 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Felt threatened by the large crowds.  it was self defense.  Stand your ground right Florida?

 

'Murica

 

Seriously though...wtf how does this person get a GUN AND AMMO through one of the most heavily screened entries in the world?

 

Prepare for any and all travel out of canada/America to get even harder or more invasive

Because you're allowed. You notify the airline and check in your firearm. There are specific rules as to how you pack it and lock it etc. But it's not against the law to transport your guns while travelling. Hunters do it all the time. 

 

Two posts directly above your's talk about this. 

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2 minutes ago, WHL rocks said:

Not sure it would be Canada's fault even if the shooter had travelled on a Canadian Airline. Why would it be Canada's fault?

 

Are you kidding? All Trump has to tweet is 

 

"Canada looking very bad right now. Something wrong up there. Be on the lookout." 

 

and we'd have 10,000 nutbars standing in fields near the border checking peoples bags. 

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1 minute ago, WHL rocks said:

Because you're allowed. You notify the airline and check in your firearm. There are specific rules as to how you pack it and lock it etc. But it's not against the law to transport your guns while travelling. Hunters do it all the time. 

 

Seems like a hole in the system maybe? How about picking up yer guns outside the airport in a secure area?

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8 minutes ago, Warhippy said:

Felt threatened by the large crowds.  it was self defense.  Stand your ground right Florida?

 

'Murica

 

Seriously though...wtf how does this person get a GUN through one of the most heavily screened entries in the world?

 

Prepare for any and all travel out of canada/America to get even harder or more invasive

 

He packed it in his checked baggage. Perfectly legal.

 

Actually if you want to shoot up an airport this is the perfect way to do it.

 

Pack your gun(s) and ammo in accordance with federal/state law then board your flight at say Dallas/Ft Worth exit flight in Miami. Collect your bag at luggage carousel. Open bag, unlock and load your weapons and you are now fully armed and loaded inside an airport.

 

 

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Just now, nuckin_futz said:

 

Pack your gun(s) and ammo in accordance with federal/state law then board your flight at say Dallas/Ft Worth exit flight in Miami. Collect your bag at luggage carousel. Open bag unlock and load your weapons and you are now fully armed and loaded inside an airport.

 

I'm flabbergasted. I really am. How the F could such a stupid hole be left in the system on purpose? 

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4 minutes ago, S'all Good Man said:

 

Seems like a hole in the system maybe? How about picking up yer guns outside the airport in a secure area?

 

Or maybe that ammo cannot be brought along.  

 

If you're already flying, you can certainly put aside 20 bucks for ammo down at the local shops.  

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