Adarsh Sant Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I love the Sedins don't get me wrong (their numbers will be retired and they will be in the HHOF in my opinion), but they are a shell of what they used to be back in the glory days. Daniel is on pace for 43 points (43.8). Henrik is on pace for 49 (49.6). These are not the numbers of 1st liners, yet they continue to be deployed with first line minutes (around 19 min per game on average). I acknowledge that Horvat is being used more as of late, but overall they are being used more than any other line. They are also getting significantly more PP time that unit #2. This is not changing. This is concerning because they aren't being deployed in a shutdown role like Sutter's line, they are being deployed to provide offense. Looking at their numbers, they are not providing much. Henrik has 4 points in his last 10, 2 of them against the league's worst team. He is -11 on the season. Daniel has 1 point in his last 10, also against the leagues worst team. He is -8 on the season. The Canucks are the leagues worst road team, and these guys are not helping out. Is it time for them to be demoted? Can anyone honestly say that they are offensive threats anymore? This isn't just based on tonight, they have been performing terribly the last month or so. My solution would be to decrease their TOI to about 16-17 min, and split the extra 2-3 min with Bo's line and the 4th line. Sutter already plays a lot against the other teams's top lines so I think his lines' TOI is good where it is. The 4th line hasn't produced but honestly they look more threatening than the Sedins. This could work until Hansen gets back, then it's a different story. Roast away if you have to. On a completely different note, should Miller have done this tonight? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKXbNjBh9So Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Willie's not going to go down over playing the Sedin's less. Its just that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 At the very least, split them up. Daniel needs to be shaken up, and I think Henrik could do without having to worry about Danny's struggles while on the same line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GettinGuddyWithIt Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Yes, the Sedins TOI needs to decrease and give those minutes to Bo's line. Looking back we all know Miller could've done that. But to make a decision like that in the moment is really difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's very simple: The Sedins need to be split up.... they are out of ideas and too slow to play together anymore. They can still pass the puck... put one of them on a line with Sutter and Granlund, (Daniel) and one on a line with Megna and Eriksson. (Henrik) They should not be together on PP's either... it is very obvious they do not have any new ideas... they need to be shaken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numb3r 16 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Do you end all your topics with 14 minutes ago, Adarsh Sant said: Roast away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 3rd line minutes? Yes, until Hansen is back. PP time? Unless they are trying a new look, they shouldn't get more than Horvat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, GettinGuddyWithIt said: Yes, the Sedins TOI needs to decrease and give those minutes to Bo's line. Looking back we all know Miller could've done that. But to make a decision like that in the moment is really difficult. He could have, but should he have done that? People would have probably said it was 'cowardly' or whatever. Personally if it helps us get an extra point, then he should have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, numb3r 16 said: Do you end all your topics with "roast away" Pretty much. It lets people know I'm open to criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I wonder if they are fatigue from the World Cup. I know it isn't as high level of competition as the Olympics or Playoffs, but still pretty intense. A month or two less of healing/training may be catching up with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumerman77 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 How about giving the Sedins a decent winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, baumerman77 said: How about giving the Sedins a decent winger? Sedins have looked unimpressive with Megna and Eriksson. Hansen was working slightly better but he's gone for a bit We don't have any decent wingers at the moment unless you count Rodin and Boucher who WILLIE REFUSES TO PLAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRypien37 Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 People, they are 36 years old. Not everyone can pull a Thornton at this age. They are slowing down and have been on a steady decline for the past 2-3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Its a slump. They will get through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Sedins desperately need to get Hansen back... he is the only guy who both understands them and who also has the skills to play their game. Burr understands, but he is a step behind... Megna can't finish unless he has a breakaway, and Eriksson is just not in sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horvats_Big_Head Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 &^@# megna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Type R Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Tonight was bad, the ice took a lot of the finesse out of the game. It was bouncy, it was crazy, and it was ugly. Both teams had a hard time making proper passes, which made it difficult to setup plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afan Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 The Sedins are a waste of time on the PP. Last time the Canucks had a PP in the last 17 seconds of OT, Hank held on to the puck till the last whistle without a shot on goal. Tonight, the Sedins again had no shot on goal during the PP in OT and gave up a short-handed goal. Who is going to pay to watch the Sedins these days? Take them out of the PP, it is painful to watch them keep passing the puck endlessly until turning it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 It's a tough spot because the next best option after Hansen - Sutter - it's just too important to leave him on his own matchup line. And I think that despite Loui being the 3rd best option, I'd stick with the LE Sutter Granlund line and lean on them more. Which unfortunately leaves the Sedins with a bottom six linemate - although at this point I'd be tempted to move Burrows up with them and let Bo and Baer carry their own line with a lesser winger like Megna. Somehow I imagine they'll continue to produce nevertheless, but perhaps it's their turn to give up their winger. Anyhow - Hansen imo is one of the three most important forwards on this club right now - with Horvat and Sutter - and he's a huge loss the effectively makes this team a two as opposed to 3 line team. At this point I think I'd try this: Sedin Sedin Burrows Eriksson Sutter Granlund Baertschi Horvat Boucher/Megna Gaunce Chaput Skille And to be clear - no disrespect to Rodin but I simply don't believe he's healthy enough to play - and I don't see any point in risking a further setback with him - otherwise he's clearly a good option on the Baer Bo line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adarsh Sant Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 1 minute ago, oldnews said: It's a tough spot because the next best option after Hansen - Sutter - is just too important to leave on his own matchup line. And I think that despite Loui being the 3rd best option, I'd stick with the LE Sutter Granlund line and lean on them more. Which unfortunately leaves the Sedins with a bottom six linemate - although at this point I'd be tempted to move Burrows up with them and let Bo and Baer carry their own line with a lesser winger like Megna. Somehow I imagine they'll continue to produce nevertheless, but perhaps it's their turn to give up their winger. Anyhow - Hansen imo is one of the three most important forwards on this club right now - with Horvat and Sutter - and he's a huge loss the effectively makes this team a two as opposed to 3 line team. At this point I think I'd try this: Sedin Sedin Burrows Eriksson Sutter Granlund Baertschi Horvat Boucher/Megna Gaunce Chaput Skille I agree, that seems more viable until Badger is back. Also to hell with Megna, send him down. Give Rodin or Boucher a try. I imagine the Swedish league MVP could probably produce more than Jayson "4th line plug" Megna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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