Johnny Torts Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Edler Tanev Gudbranson Hutton Stetcher Tryamkin Larsen Joulevi Biega Subban Pedan We need to pull the trigger for a blue chipper or a Landeskog before time runs out on Tanev. We've been here, we've seen the Edler ship sail. Do we really want to go through this again or do we make a sensible move for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linden17 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 At first i think no. but the more you actaully think about this it makes alot of sense. Tanev is twenty seven years old ( wow time passes fast) This team is a few years away from being an actual contender and i say that humbly. We may not be a legit contender but we may be able to be a underdog in a few years. Tanev is actually sought after by im guessing 29 teams if he were made open to the trade market. he would fetch you the most talent back no question about it. so if he is the key piece in a trade that could get us a younger topline foward i think u have to do it. Our defense has been the most improved part of the team since benning took over and i think its where we could stand to lose someone via trade. especially with the emergence of stecher and tyramkin. not to mention hutton and gudbranson still being really young in terms of d-men. im actually hoping this happens despite tanev being our best defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teepain Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Depends what the tanev + + is going to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight Sparkle Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 an injury riddled tanev isn't going anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 No, we don't "need" to pull the trigger. Maybe the bottom line is Landeskog, and other guys like from Colorado or Edmonton are just good, but not great hockey players. Only panicky people on CDC think that. Tanev is only 27. He's under contract until 2019-20, at a reasonable cap hit for a stay at home d-man. I'd worry more about Edler who was never consistent in the first place being 30 years old, and stuck with an NTC. What we need is good scouting, and good drafting. Next year we should have guys like Olsen, Juolevi, Brisebois, able to play in Utica. We will have Boeser, and whatever draft picks we get this year, and are ready to head to training camp next year. Once the Canucks have a better idea where the defence is, and who we can, and can't move, then make adjustments. Personally we'd be better served taking the Sedin's off special teams period. Run with guys like Sutter, Horvat, Baer, Granlund, see what the younger guys are like with more ice time. Keep the Sedin's minutes manageable, so they are not burned out. Bring in the guys like Rodin and Boucher so we see what they have to offer. Bring Pedan in for a game or two. If WD is just not willing to make those adjustments with the players, then maybe one of the Assistants can take over and try to utilize the team better. As Bob McKenzie on TSN said from other GM's "It's really hard to make a trade now." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 tanev needds to be traded for max value at trade deadline i want a top ten drafted winger in last few yrs and a first rounder make a contender overpay because i dont wanna lose sbisa, edler or guddy in expansion do it benning and fire the coach asap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Torts Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 19 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: No, we don't "need" to pull the trigger. Maybe the bottom line is Landeskog, and other guys like from Colorado or Edmonton are just good, but not great hockey players. Only panicky people on CDC think that. Tanev is only 27. He's under contract until 2019-20, at a reasonable cap hit for a stay at home d-man. I'd worry more about Edler who was never consistent in the first place being 30 years old, and stuck with an NTC. What we need is good scouting, and good drafting. Next year we should have guys like Olsen, Juolevi, Brisebois, able to play in Utica. We will have Boeser, and whatever draft picks we get this year, and are ready to head to training camp next year. Once the Canucks have a better idea where the defence is, and who we can, and can't move, then make adjustments. Personally we'd be better served taking the Sedin's off special teams period. Run with guys like Sutter, Horvat, Baer, Granlund, see what the younger guys are like with more ice time. Keep the Sedin's minutes manageable, so they are not burned out. Bring in the guys like Rodin and Boucher so we see what they have to offer. Bring Pedan in for a game or two. If WD is just not willing to make those adjustments with the players, then maybe one of the Assistants can take over and try to utilize the team better. As Bob McKenzie on TSN said from other GM's "It's really hard to make a trade now." Dude, what are you talking about? Edler? NTC Edler? 30 year old Edler? The Edler that DET was ready to trade Nyquist for, 3 years ago? I'm talking about not missing out on a opportunity here. Trade Tanev while we have assets to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linden17 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 35 minutes ago, Ghostsof1915 said: No, we don't "need" to pull the trigger. Maybe the bottom line is Landeskog, and other guys like from Colorado or Edmonton are just good, but not great hockey players. Only panicky people on CDC think that. Tanev is only 27. He's under contract until 2019-20, at a reasonable cap hit for a stay at home d-man. I'd worry more about Edler who was never consistent in the first place being 30 years old, and stuck with an NTC. What we need is good scouting, and good drafting. Next year we should have guys like Olsen, Juolevi, Brisebois, able to play in Utica. We will have Boeser, and whatever draft picks we get this year, and are ready to head to training camp next year. Once the Canucks have a better idea where the defence is, and who we can, and can't move, then make adjustments. Personally we'd be better served taking the Sedin's off special teams period. Run with guys like Sutter, Horvat, Baer, Granlund, see what the younger guys are like with more ice time. Keep the Sedin's minutes manageable, so they are not burned out. Bring in the guys like Rodin and Boucher so we see what they have to offer. Bring Pedan in for a game or two. If WD is just not willing to make those adjustments with the players, then maybe one of the Assistants can take over and try to utilize the team better. As Bob McKenzie on TSN said from other GM's "It's really hard to make a trade now." the whole point is that tanev is only twenty seven. but in three years when we as a team can actually compete tanev may be expandable with younger guys coming up. its all about what u think this team needs more of. id give up tanev for a younger prospect. u on the other hand think that he needs to stay because he is a good deal? if u could get a landeskog for tanev u better damn well pull it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 IMO Tanev's value is lower around the NHL than it is to Vancouver's eye. Nonetheless, we shouldn't be pulling the trigger on Tanev, we should sit back and wait for a trade deadline bidding war on Tanev run it's course. If in fact Tanev is so much valued around the league, teams will start calling soon in a potential trade deadline deals. If Tanev is so sought after, Benning won't have to lift the finger, teams will be calling him, upping their offer every time they talk. But I doubt anybody sells the farm for Tanev. And if we are in the playoff picture, he won't go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Balboa Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Canucks lose : trade everyone Canucks win : plan the parade route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 If Tanev is moved at all it's likely not until summer, after expansion, ahead of the draft/free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Yeah pull the trigger on Willie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Not any untouchables on this roster, not even Horvat. Blow it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABNuck Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 1 hour ago, timberz21 said: IMO Tanev's value is lower around the NHL than it is to Vancouver's eye. Nonetheless, we shouldn't be pulling the trigger on Tanev, we should sit back and wait for a trade deadline bidding war on Tanev run it's course. If in fact Tanev is so much valued around the league, teams will start calling soon in a potential trade deadline deals. If Tanev is so sought after, Benning won't have to lift the finger, teams will be calling him, upping their offer every time they talk. But I doubt anybody sells the farm for Tanev. And if we are in the playoff picture, he won't go anywhere. This is the truth, or at least should be. If we start calling to see what we can get for Tanev, we might actually be taking a step backwards. If, at TDL some bubble teams or contenders call and are willing to pony up a good prospect and pick in the hope of going all in (like we did in 2008/2009/2010) then I'm all for it. Otherwise, as stated above, Tanev is more valuable to us in the role he plays than an equivalent forward coming back who might pot 15 to 20 goals for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 As in any pro sport hockey is a business. Tough decisions have to be made at times even if goes against sentimentality and old alliances. Tough smart hockey guys like Scotty Bowman as coach and GM played it that way and look at his results. The players in his clubhouse may have thought differently at times and some perhaps feared him but in the end looking back and all the successes they shared in respected him. However guys like him are hard to find. Not totally sure Linden has the grit as a management guy to shake up the club and foster a winning culture in the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Tanev can't land us a Taylor Hall, but he certainly isn't that much worse than Larsson. Teams like Tampa Bay and Philly are going to be looking for a dman to stop the bleeding, and then you take advantage of them. Landeskog is going to come at too high a price; a price that only a contender will want to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Johnny Torts said: Edler Tanev Gudbranson Hutton Stetcher Tryamkin Larsen Joulevi Biega Subban Pedan We need to pull the trigger for a blue chipper or a Landeskog before time runs out on Tanev. We've been here, we've seen the Edler ship sail. Do we really want to go through this again or do we make a sensible move for once. The Canucks finally have a good base on the back end to build on and......so many call for dismantling it......ugh What happened when Edler and Tanev were injured......losing streak......no coincidence.....the Canucks need their top pair so that players further down the depth chart can develop without facing the most difficult assignments. Throwing a player in the deep end usually doesn't lead to improvement Case in point. Hutton. He struggled when playing 2nd pair with a partner with his own issues. Solution, play him on 3rd pair or with a better partner (Tanev) FWIW 3 on your list is in the AHL or Junior and not ready for prime time. And 2 are injured long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riviera82 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Tanev is probably a #3 on a good team and a #4 at best on a cup contender. He's a good player who isn't exactly great at anything. He's injury prone, isn't an aggressive hard-hitter, and he provides no offence. Maybe he can play with a cigarette hanging out of his beak, but when you're a soft one-dimensional defenseman that'll only take you so far. I'm all for getting rid of him but I think people overrate what his return would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 If we wanna win, we keep Tanev. Our team is a completely different team with him in our lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swizzey Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Colorado doesn't want Tanev. He is 27. Who they would bite for is Hutton. That is... Hutton and a 1st. Are we willing to do that? I think not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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