underrated Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I mentioned in a previous proposal that I think Benning and Linden's plan is to compete for the cup one more time before the Sedins retire. Thus, I think we are really aiming for a roster to compete in 2018 and 2019, when the Sedins are our second line. To do that, our needs are young top line scoring wingers and a young true #1 workhorse defenseman. I'm assuming these proposals people will react to, because I'm trading players we like (Hutton, Virtanen, 1st rounder, Tanev, Baertschi), rather than just what's regularly suggested. But you have to give value to get value. YOUNG TOP LINE SCORING WINGER Trade: Chris Tanev for David Pastrnak Why: Boston has long been searching for a right hand defenseman, and was interested in Trouba. They won't want to give up Pastrnak, who is only 20 and has been amazing already. However guys like Tanev are the top commodity these days on the market. Both teams are sad to see their beloved player go and both markets might complain about this deal, but this trade helps both teams with their needs. Tanev becomes the solid rock d-man to help anchor Boston now that Chara isn't who he used to be. Pastrnak then slots in beside Horvat long term on the right wing. This deal may need to grow, adding a young winger like Rodin going to them, and a piece coming back our way. Boston has 3.45 million in cap space so they could just make it work after taking Pastrnak's contract off the books. Trade: Hutton and Baertschi for Landeskog Why: The Canucks get a top line young left winger to put with Pastrnak and Horvat as our long time top line for the future. WCE2? Colorado gets a young left handed solid defenseman and a young left winger to replace Landeskog. YOUNG #1 DEFENSEMAN I'm not sure they would part with him no matter what the package thrown at them is, but I would try to throw the entire franchise at Florida for Aaron Ekblad. They've had tons of transition in the front office, so maybe Tallon won't do this after getting reinstated, but make a significant offer like: Edler, Hansen, Virtanen & 2017 1st round pick for Ekblad . It's both quantity and quality in a package (two good current assets, two good future assets for one elite current/future piece). It may be an overpayment but to get one of the top players for the next 15 years is worth it. Trade Sbisa, Burrows, Miller for draft picks at deadline Free Agent: Sign BC Boy steady defensive defenseman Karl Alzner 4 years at 5.5-6 million per year. Long term roster (aiming at 2018/2019 cup runs) Landeskog - Horvat - Pastrnak Sedin - Sedin - Boeser Eriksson - Cassels - Sutter Rodin - Gaunce - Granlund Alzner - Ekblad Juolevi - Gudbransson Tryamkin - Stecher Minors: Subban, Pedan Demko Markstrom We should be able to fit under the cap, especially with Miller gone, Sedins on smaller contracts in 2018, and ELC on Boeser, Juolevi and Demko, but if not then find a way to buy out or trade Eriksson's contract. Offense: This team has both top line talent and great depth. The Sedin's slot in on the second line (on cheaper contracts in 2018). If Eriksson turns it around, our third line could be very dangerous as well. Players on all four lines could move up and down the roster as they all have the talent to play on a top two line. Defense: Again we have top end talent (Alzner, Ekblad, Juolevi) and great depth. Goalie: Either guy could be a #1 at this point. Depends on Demko's development. In 2-3 years time with those young players developing, that's a cup worthy team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 you hopelessly over value canuck players and fail to realize most teams are not interested in trading 1 prime asset for 2 or more lesser assets you also give canucks needs priority, and do not assess accurately the real needs of your trading partners i guess other teams will just do what is necessary to help the canucks ? you also do not account for the 50 contract limit each team must deal with and you force the other teams to take on extra contracts when most teams do not have room to do so but if other gms can be robbed by going along with your views then yes, i do like the outcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 In what world would Florida trade their franchise defenseman? Especially for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsMillerTime Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I actually would rather keep Hutton and Baertschi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down by the River Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 32 minutes ago, underrated said: YOUNG TOP LINE SCORING WINGER Trade: Chris Tanev for David Pastrnak Holy &^@#. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orcasgonewild Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 45 minutes ago, underrated said: I mentioned in a previous proposal that I think Benning and Linden's plan is to compete for the cup one more time before the Sedins retire. Thus, I think we are really aiming for a roster to compete in 2018 and 2019, when the Sedins are our second line. To do that, our needs are young top line scoring wingers and a young true #1 workhorse defenseman. I'm assuming these proposals people will react to, because I'm trading players we like (Hutton, Virtanen, 1st rounder, Tanev, Baertschi), rather than just what's regularly suggested. But you have to give value to get value. YOUNG TOP LINE SCORING WINGER Trade: Chris Tanev for David Pastrnak Why: Boston has long been searching for a right hand defenseman, and was interested in Trouba. They won't want to give up Pastrnak, who is only 20 and has been amazing already. However guys like Tanev are the top commodity these days on the market. Both teams are sad to see their beloved player go and both markets might complain about this deal, but this trade helps both teams with their needs. Tanev becomes the solid rock d-man to help anchor Boston now that Chara isn't who he used to be. Pastrnak then slots in beside Horvat long term on the right wing. This deal may need to grow, adding a young winger like Rodin going to them, and a piece coming back our way. Boston has 3.45 million in cap space so they could just make it work after taking Pastrnak's contract off the books. Trade: Hutton and Baertschi for Landeskog Why: The Canucks get a top line young left winger to put with Pastrnak and Horvat as our long time top line for the future. WCE2? Colorado gets a young left handed solid defenseman and a young left winger to replace Landeskog. YOUNG #1 DEFENSEMAN I'm not sure they would part with him no matter what the package thrown at them is, but I would try to throw the entire franchise at Florida for Aaron Ekblad. They've had tons of transition in the front office, so maybe Tallon won't do this after getting reinstated, but make a significant offer like: Edler, Hansen, Virtanen & 2017 1st round pick for Ekblad . It's both quantity and quality in a package (two good current assets, two good future assets for one elite current/future piece). It may be an overpayment but to get one of the top players for the next 15 years is worth it. Trade Sbisa, Burrows, Miller for draft picks at deadline Free Agent: Sign BC Boy steady defensive defenseman Karl Alzner 4 years at 5.5-6 million per year. Long term roster (aiming at 2018/2019 cup runs) Landeskog - Horvat - Pastrnak Sedin - Sedin - Boeser Eriksson - Cassels - Sutter Rodin - Gaunce - Granlund Alzner - Ekblad Juolevi - Gudbransson Tryamkin - Stecher Minors: Subban, Pedan Demko Markstrom We should be able to fit under the cap, especially with Miller gone, Sedins on smaller contracts in 2018, and ELC on Boeser, Juolevi and Demko, but if not then find a way to buy out or trade Eriksson's contract. Offense: This team has both top line talent and great depth. The Sedin's slot in on the second line (on cheaper contracts in 2018). If Eriksson turns it around, our third line could be very dangerous as well. Players on all four lines could move up and down the roster as they all have the talent to play on a top two line. Defense: Again we have top end talent (Alzner, Ekblad, Juolevi) and great depth. Goalie: Either guy could be a #1 at this point. Depends on Demko's development. In 2-3 years time with those young players developing, that's a cup worthy team. I love your proposal. Only thing is change is the ekblad trade. That simply won't happen. Ppl on here will trash your other proposals but I like them. Tbh if it was up to me id get that Boston deal happening. INCREDIBLY SMART DEAL. Young top defenceman which deserves a ransom just look at Jones for Johansson and Hamilton for 1st and 2 seconds, yandle for duclair prospect and 2 picks. So Tanev for pastrnak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 No way Florida gives up Ekblad, take away Marchand and really HOW GOOD is Pastrnak? Why break up Sutter Granlund and Eriksson? Cassels should be on the 4th. I appreciate your effort but this would never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10pavelbure96 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, orcasgonewild said: I love your proposal. Only thing is change is the ekblad trade. That simply won't happen. Ppl on here will trash your other proposals but I like them. Tbh if it was up to me id get that Boston deal happening. INCREDIBLY SMART DEAL. Young top defenceman which deserves a ransom just look at Jones for Johansson and Hamilton for 1st and 2 seconds, yandle for duclair prospect and 2 picks. So Tanev for pastrnak. Ya but I wouldn't put Tanev in Seth jones' league or Yandles. Maybe Hamilton. Tanev is pretty one dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, underrated said: I mentioned in a previous proposal that I think Benning and Linden's plan is to compete for the cup one more time before the Sedins retire. Thus, I think we are really aiming for a roster to compete in 2018 and 2019, when the Sedins are our second line. To do that, our needs are young top line scoring wingers and a young true #1 workhorse defenseman. I'm assuming these proposals people will react to, because I'm trading players we like (Hutton, Virtanen, 1st rounder, Tanev, Baertschi), rather than just what's regularly suggested. But you have to give value to get value. YOUNG TOP LINE SCORING WINGER Trade: Chris Tanev for David Pastrnak Why: Boston has long been searching for a right hand defenseman, and was interested in Trouba. They won't want to give up Pastrnak, who is only 20 and has been amazing already. However guys like Tanev are the top commodity these days on the market. Both teams are sad to see their beloved player go and both markets might complain about this deal, but this trade helps both teams with their needs. Tanev becomes the solid rock d-man to help anchor Boston now that Chara isn't who he used to be. Pastrnak then slots in beside Horvat long term on the right wing. This deal may need to grow, adding a young winger like Rodin going to them, and a piece coming back our way. Boston has 3.45 million in cap space so they could just make it work after taking Pastrnak's contract off the books. Trade: Hutton and Baertschi for Landeskog Why: The Canucks get a top line young left winger to put with Pastrnak and Horvat as our long time top line for the future. WCE2? Colorado gets a young left handed solid defenseman and a young left winger to replace Landeskog. YOUNG #1 DEFENSEMAN I'm not sure they would part with him no matter what the package thrown at them is, but I would try to throw the entire franchise at Florida for Aaron Ekblad. They've had tons of transition in the front office, so maybe Tallon won't do this after getting reinstated, but make a significant offer like: Edler, Hansen, Virtanen & 2017 1st round pick for Ekblad . It's both quantity and quality in a package (two good current assets, two good future assets for one elite current/future piece). It may be an overpayment but to get one of the top players for the next 15 years is worth it. Trade Sbisa, Burrows, Miller for draft picks at deadline Free Agent: Sign BC Boy steady defensive defenseman Karl Alzner 4 years at 5.5-6 million per year. Long term roster (aiming at 2018/2019 cup runs) Landeskog - Horvat - Pastrnak Sedin - Sedin - Boeser Eriksson - Cassels - Sutter Rodin - Gaunce - Granlund Alzner - Ekblad Juolevi - Gudbransson Tryamkin - Stecher Minors: Subban, Pedan Demko Markstrom We should be able to fit under the cap, especially with Miller gone, Sedins on smaller contracts in 2018, and ELC on Boeser, Juolevi and Demko, but if not then find a way to buy out or trade Eriksson's contract. Offense: This team has both top line talent and great depth. The Sedin's slot in on the second line (on cheaper contracts in 2018). If Eriksson turns it around, our third line could be very dangerous as well. Players on all four lines could move up and down the roster as they all have the talent to play on a top two line. Defense: Again we have top end talent (Alzner, Ekblad, Juolevi) and great depth. Goalie: Either guy could be a #1 at this point. Depends on Demko's development. In 2-3 years time with those young players developing, that's a cup worthy team. Couldn't we have simply drafted Pasternak, when we had the chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Alflives said: Couldn't we have simply drafted Pasternak, when we had the chance? Another blame management for not being perfect hindsight 20/20 post if you have no input other than your smear campaign don't bother. Comment on the trade or don't comment. Alf you used to have some decent or at least funny content lately your posts just suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 hours ago, underrated said: YOUNG #1 DEFENSEMAN I'm not sure they would part with him no matter what the package thrown at them is, but I would try to throw the entire franchise at Florida for Aaron Ekblad. They've had tons of transition in the front office, so maybe Tallon won't do this after getting reinstated, but make a significant offer like: Edler, Hansen, Virtanen & 2017 1st round pick for Ekblad . It's both quantity and quality in a package (two good current assets, two good future assets for one elite current/future piece). It may be an overpayment but to get one of the top players for the next 15 years is worth it. Good luck with that. #1- No way in Hell Florida trades their top Dman to ANYONE. #2- Florida laughs at that package anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: Good luck with that. #1- No way in Hell Florida trades their top Dman to ANYONE. #2- Florida laughs at that package anyways. We laugh at your package! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Alflives said: We laugh at your package! IT'S COLD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: IT'S COLD! Touché. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strombone Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Pears said: In what world would Florida trade their franchise defenseman? Especially for that? We almost got Ekblad for Virtanen and Shinkaruk at the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 49 minutes ago, Strombone said: We almost got Ekblad for Virtanen and Shinkaruk at the draft. We almost won the Stanley cup. We didn't get Ekblad and no way Fla trades him players like him come once every 3 drafts at best. He's got the stuff Champions are built from. Start with Juolevi Boeser Virtanen Tanev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Bedard Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 56 minutes ago, Strombone said: We almost got Ekblad for Virtanen and Shinkaruk at the draft. *Sam Reinhart Benning wouldve drafted Reinhart If only Benning offered 6th OA, Shinkaruk and 24th OA LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 I get it, NHL 15. hahaha thats funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 With the emergence of Carlo and how their D has performed, Boston's priority is no longer defence but offence - reason why they are interested in Landeskog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Jade Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 57 minutes ago, DontMessMe said: *Sam Reinhart Benning wouldve drafted Reinhart If only Benning offered 6th OA, Shinkaruk and 24th OA LOL But then CDC would implode if Reinhart didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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