kingofsurrey Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Ryan Strome said: Or we stop funding Ontario, Quebec and other provinces. hahaha - yupp that would certainly grow Alberta's fund... BC is going to start our own Legacy fund. Funded by revenue from the Marijuana industry..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 I love when noobs run down Canada! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinessence Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, Ryan Strome said: No you can big guy. Welcome to cdc. Ah, one of those cool guys that calls people "big guy". You lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, kingofsurrey said: hahaha - yupp that would certainly grow Alberta's fund... BC is going to start our own Legacy fund. Funded by revenue from the Marijuana industry..... You make me laugh. Seriously you do. Thats a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Just now, cabinessence said: Ah, one of those cool guys that calls people "big guy". You lose. Don't worry I won't minus you. I want all you noobs to feel welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabinessence Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Nearly 2,500 post, many award winning. Sorry, no bass solo for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Grande Cache says hi! Do you not think raising taxes killed jobs? I hope you're sincerely asking otherwise you are being totally ignorant. I like you but I don't know what you're doing right now. I know you are referring to the hurt in the oilpatch right now however very little as to do with the NDP. The world price was in decline during the death throes of the Conservatives but that's another story. Over production, surplus storage, and a decline in demand all world wide issues pushed the price of a barrel downwards. A simple statement to make on a very complicated economic situation but very true. Alberta does not set the price of oil on the world market and certainly no provincial government here can enact policy to shake the world petroleum industry to it's core. Actually the NDP reduced royalties on conventional oil (drilling) to the lowest of any jurisdiction in North America. But on the global stage we are pikers in that department. Our strength lies in the proven reserves of the oilsands which rivals that of Saudi. However it is expensive to produce has greater refining difficulties compared to conventional oil and is a target to the environmental sector in the US and we have been their biggest supplier for many years. To lose that market would be a disaster. If and when oil prices approach previous levels the energy sector operating in Alberta will be more than happy to fill those 30,000 lost jobs in Calgary alone, no matter who is in government. And just as an aside I'm not a big supporter of the NDP here but after 41 years of Conservative self entitlement and the one two punch of Alison Redb*tch and Jimmy Prentice most of the province had enough. Jimmy showed his and his party's colours best when he couldn't be the big kid in the sandbox took all his toys and went home. No surprise he did it before to the Conservative feds years before when the CIBC offered him a really big sandbox as their prez to play in. See ya Mulroney I've got a bigger gig waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Johnny Shotgun said: I know you are referring to the hurt in the oilpatch right now however very little as to do with the NDP. The world price was in decline during the death throes of the Conservatives but that's another story. Over production, surplus storage, and a decline in demand all world wide issues pushed the price of a barrel downwards. A simple statement to make on a very complicated economic situation but very true. Alberta does not set the price of oil on the world market and certainly no provincial government here can enact policy to shake the world petroleum industry to it's core. Actually the NDP reduced royalties on conventional oil (drilling) to the lowest of any jurisdiction in North America. But on the global stage we are pikers in that department. Our strength lies in the proven reserves of the oilsands which rivals that of Saudi. However it is expensive to produce has greater refining difficulties compared to conventional oil and is a target to the environmental sector in the US and we have been their biggest supplier for many years. To lose that market would be a disaster. If and when oil prices approach previous levels the energy sector operating in Alberta will be more than happy to fill those 30,000 lost jobs in Calgary alone, no matter who is in government. And just as an aside I'm not a big supporter of the NDP here but after 41 years of Conservative self entitlement and the one two punch of Alison Redb*tch and Jimmy Prentice most of the province had enough. Jimmy showed his and his party's colours best when he couldn't be the big kid in the sandbox took all his toys and went home. No surprise he did it before to the Conservative feds years before when the CIBC offered him a really big sandbox as their prez to play in. See ya Mulroney I've got a bigger gig waiting. I said research Grande Cache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, cabinessence said: Nearly 2,500 post, many award winning. Sorry, no bass solo for you! Welcome to Canada. Enjoy your freedom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: See Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario as proof. Please research some more. In all these Provinces the ndp were job killers. Thats fact! But you are right, to each their own.. Lets not forget the underground casino's k? sorry bro...cant stand the Liberals in this province and that wont change....this is why I usually stay away from political threads ...politcal views are like A#$H%%es...everyone has one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 53 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Yup. Isn't Norway's fund now 65 times bigger than Alberta's . What happened in Alberta ? The never ending band of conservatives used it as their own private fund...and when the NDP got into power it was real easy to blame everything on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, ShakyWalton said: The never ending band of conservatives used it as their own private fund...and when the NDP got into power it was real easy to blame everything on them. Do you live in Alberta? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Do you live in Alberta? I did for 11 years back in the 80s when Lougheed started the Heritage fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, ShakyWalton said: I did for 11 years back in the 80s when Lougheed started the Heritage fund. Lougheed is a great man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakyWalton Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Lougheed is a great man. I used to take his daughter out a bit..when she was there...she lived in Vancouver back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 3 hours ago, ShakyWalton said: To each their own...this tried old anti NDP jargon really doesnt cut it anymore..they havent been in power for years..frigging up on the fast ferries which the Libs sold by the way for a huge loss and building a deck...just doesnt cut it anymore ...the laundry list of Liberal BS goes on and on. I understand that p.o.v., but I've seen it play out in 3 places. Notley is the only exception probably in the last 20 years, but she's pretty much running the federal Liberal playbook. I'm open to evaluating the platforms, but Horgan so far has been boilerplate NDP dogma so far. E.g., he's trying to blame Clark for the softwood lumber deal, even though thats federal jurisdiction, and giving no credit to her for opening up new Asian markets for lumber. Most folks won't know the nuances but Horgan should be rallying for more market share in China and Japan, not spinning BS. Thats why I can't vote for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: Welcome to Canada. Enjoy your freedom. Yupp , you can thank Pierre Trudeau for that. Great man - Great Prime Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Ryan Strome said: I said research Grande Cache. Same issue as oil low demand for coaking coal https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.3864822?client=ms-android-google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clam linguine Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 nvm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 36 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Yupp , you can thank Pierre Trudeau for that. Great man - Great Prime Minister. Yup where even those living off the system have a voice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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