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Bring on Uber. Cab drivers are for the most part, $&!#ty people. I don't know how many times I've heard, "My debit machine is broke" or "Do you have cash?". Also they have tried to rip me off numerous times. Turning off their meter after you get to the destination or turning it off before you have a chance to see it and trying to claim it was a certain amount. &^@# cab drivers.

 

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On ‎2017‎-‎01‎-‎19 at 0:31 PM, g_bassi13 said:

While the taxi system requires a massive overhaul towards licenses, fares, and just sheer quantity of workforce, I will never support anything like Uber that turns half decent work into McJobs. So I hope they fail.

Driving a taxi is definitely not a half decent job.   According to this article Vancouver Taxi Drivers earn an average $25,332 an year.   That is barely above minimum wage.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/08/15/canadas_last_dirty_secret_magazine_reveals_who_earns_what.html

 

Current taxi driving jobs are already McJobs.

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Uber is great if there is enough out in your city. When traveling to different countries I can jump in an uber before getting the local currency. It's way cheaper and I find the drivers actually speak English. I have not had a single bad experience since I started taking uber.

 

The last time I took a cab was in Zurich. The guy tried to take me on an incredibly long detour until I called him on it. 

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17 hours ago, DonLever said:

Driving a taxi is definitely not a half decent job.   According to this article Vancouver Taxi Drivers earn an average $25,332 an year.   That is barely above minimum wage.

 

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/08/15/canadas_last_dirty_secret_magazine_reveals_who_earns_what.html

 

Current taxi driving jobs are already McJobs.


Taxi drivers earn a lot of tips and take a lot of cash that they don't declare. So their salaries are higher than reported.

 

That being said, the whole issue goes back to the licensing. Without enough licenses, the owners of the licenses can exploit the drivers, because they can be easily replaced. The licensing issue creates a shortage of supply not just for people looking to catch cabs, but also for those looking for jobs driving them.

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Uber >>> Cabs

 

The people disagreeing have to be crazy.  Also Uber drivers get 70% of the total and it's all done through the app.  

 

People have bad bad experiences with cab drivers and Uber drivers.  Vancouver needs to get with the times already, all the other major Canadian cities have Uber except us

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5 minutes ago, Innovative said:

Uber >>> Cabs

 

The people disagreeing have to be crazy.  Also Uber drivers get 70% of the total and it's all done through the app.  

 

People have bad bad experiences with cab drivers and Uber drivers.  Vancouver needs to get with the times already, all the other major Canadian cities have Uber except us

Winnipeg doesn't. But I suppose that depends on your definition of major.

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On ‎1‎/‎18‎/‎2017 at 9:29 AM, Lancaster said:

Don't the taxi industry in Vancouver keep the amount of vehicles artificially low to keep the rates higher?

no. rates are regulated by the province. also the provincial party has nothing to do with uber sooo....

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Uber is superior to cabs hands down.

 

in toronto I took two ubers, one a lincoln mkz and another a toyota highlander.  Both had bottles of water for me in the back seat, were extremely kind and open to conversation.  In vancouver I get rudeness and fake leather seat covers in crappy cars that smell like BO.  Having a rating system and choice really helps with customer service.

 

not to mention I can see how far away my uber is and didnt have to wait longer than 10 minutes.  We once ordered two cabs 2 hours in advance for a special dinner, neither showed up and when we called they didnt care and said it would be another 45 mins.  Could care less about cab companies and their jobs cus they clearly don't need to care about their customers with this monopoly.  Next time your in a cab mention uber and see how rude they get, then pay by credit card and watch it get worse.

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On 1/18/2017 at 5:59 PM, kingofsurrey said:

Is there a more corrupt jurisdiction  in North America  than   Vancouver / BC  ?

 

I am older now and pretty set up but i just feel sick at how this province treats its young people  /  poor people  /  seniors  /  and  mentally ill. 

 

Yes it's spelled Q-U-E-B-E-C  

 

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4 minutes ago, Johnny Shotgun said:

Yes it's spelled Q-U-E-B-E-C  

 

I have lots of relatives just outside of Montreal.

 

Honesty i think BC is more corrupt. In BC we have the BC liberal party controlled by the BC Real estate industry....

Basically screwing over every young person in BC with way over inflated real estate prices...  corruption / off shore money lining peoples pockets.

 

I feel sorry for the young people of BC with what our BC government has done to them.....

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3 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said:

I have lots of relatives just outside of Montreal.

 

Honesty i think BC is more corrupt. In BC we have the BC liberal party controlled by the BC Real estate industry....

Basically screwing over every young person in BC with way over inflated real estate prices...  corruption / off shore money lining peoples pockets.

 

I feel sorry for the young people of BC with what our BC government has done to them.....

I hear you.  However Quebec does have it's share of scandals as well.  Never forget the most corrupt PM this country has ever seen Mulroney resided in Montreal.  He generated a few.  Vancouver has become basically a suburb of Hong Kong.

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3 hours ago, Johnny Shotgun said:

I hear you.  However Quebec does have it's share of scandals as well.  Never forget the most corrupt PM this country has ever seen Mulroney resided in Montreal.  He generated a few.  Vancouver has become basically a suburb of Hong Kong.

Yah, really messed up how the top 2 cities in Canada to live in are now the top 2 cities  / Provinces  for corruption....

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5 hours ago, kingofsurrey said:

Yah, really messed up how the top 2 cities in Canada to live in are now the top 2 cities  / Provinces  for corruption....

It is actually.   However power and money gravitates to nice areas in which to live which leads to economic centers which become fertile ground for corruption.  Been that way since we stopped the hunter gathering phase.  Let's be thankful they lost the power of life or death over us centuries ago...though some say certain elements would like it back. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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From CKNW:

 

The provincial government says ride-sharing services like Uber will be active in B.C. by December of 2017.

Transportation Minister Todd Stone and TransLink Minister Peter Fassbender made the “made in B.C.” announcement at a news conference in downtown Vancouver.

Stone says the province is first unveiling a suite of changes to the taxi industry to prepare for the new services.

“We are announcing our intentions to move forward with a number of improvements that will help taxi industry to modernize and stay competitive in anticipation of ride-sharing services being available to British Columbians in December of 2017.”

Stone says the changes come after extensive consultation with stakeholders including local governments, the insurance industry, ride-sharing and taxi companies, and consumer groups.

 

“The need to address the public’s desire for choice, convenience, and competition. The need to protect passenger and driver safety. The need to balance the interests of all stakeholders, against recognizing the desire of British Columbians to embrace technology, all the while recognize and celebrate the investments and the jobs that have been created by the many people currently providing passenger transportation in our province.”

Uber Canada released a statement in reaction to the news, calling it a “step forward,” and urging all stakeholders to work towards having regulations in place by year’s end.

 

Last week, the province confirmed it would have an answer on the ride-sharing industry before the May 9 vote.

That same week, Uber posted a job ad for a “driver onboarding specialist,” a key hiring position within the organization who would bring on new drivers and train them.

 

Taxi industry changes

The package the province is pitching includes some big changes to the taxi market.

One of the biggest changes: An end to the rationing of taxi licenses.

“There will be no limitation on taxi licenses,” says Fassbender. “We’ll be working with local governments as we move forward to ensure it is an open and competitive market, and that they have the opportunity to be able to add additional vehicles if that business decision is one they wish to make.”

Taxis will also be able to pick up and drop off customers anywhere, regardless of municipal boundaries, and will have the exclusive right to street hailing.

The province will also put $1-million into helping create an app that allows the taxi sector to share dispatching and allow customers to hail a ride and pay for it in a similar fashion to ride-sharing.

 

Fassbender says ICBC has also been closely working with the province and industry to develop a new insurance regime that would apply to both taxis and ride-share drivers.

“The new process that will be put in place will ensure as level a playing field as possible between ride-sharing companies and the taxi industry in the insurance that they will require to assure consumers that they are covered when they get into any vehicle, whether it is a ride-sharing vehicle, and existing taxi, or any other options with limousines and so on.”

 

Vancouver displeased

While many Vancouverites took to social media to celebrate the move, at city hall the official reaction wasn’t so jubilant.

Vancouver Councillor Geoff Meggs says he isn’t buying into the government’s framing of today’s ride-sharing announcement as creating a “level playing field for BC’s taxi industry.”

Meggs says the provincial government missed an opportunity to “get the best of both worlds ” despite the government using the same line on incorporating technology and being fair to cabbies.

“This announcement was called investing in the taxi industry, it’s actually wiping out taxi industry investment to make it possible for this corporation and others to come in and skim a lot of money out of our marketplace.”

Meggs says his primary concerns are around surge pricings and reports over rider safety.

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