whcanuck Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I can't believe Iginla, Belfour and Malkin were left off but Sundin and Toews made it. Come to think of it I don't think Patrick Kane should have made it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-23 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well Don Cherry said some interesting stuff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdgarM Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 15 minutes ago, kilgore said: A no brainer. What is glaring is that he is the only Canuck to make that list. Out of only 30 teams, and that used to be only 14 teams when the Canucks first started in. And we treated him like crap. We just can't have nice things. That's for sure I am still not over losing him. People who never watched his career have no idea that he almost had at least one scoring chance per shift and at least a couple of breakaways per game. He always surprised us with something new all the time. He even turned Gino Odjick into a point producer for a time there. There was absolutely nothing he could not do on the ice. Unfortunately we will probably never see a player like him again. It was also unfortunate he played in the west most of his career which diminished his exposure to the rest of the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 4 hours ago, redhdlois said: He got honorable mention for his moustache. No RESPECT! :^/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 14 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: Gretzky: Orr, Lemieux, and I 'would have been pretty good at 3-on-3' Cory WilkinsJan 27 2017, 5:55 PM They'd be unbeatable. Three of the greatest players to lace up skates spoke as part of the All-Star Game festivities in Los Angeles on Friday. Alongside Bobby Orr and Mario Lemieux, Wayne Gretzky summarized the three greats with the perfect one liner. "The three of us would have been pretty good at 3-on-3," Gretzky joked. PLAYER GAMES GOALS ASSISTS POINTS Gretzky 1487 894 1963 2857 Lemieux 915 690 1033 1723 Orr 657 270 645 915 The trio are arguably the best to take the ice in the 100-year history of the NHL, with a host of combined accolades: Eight Stanley Cups, 18 Art Ross Trophies, 15 Hart Trophy wins, 10 Lester B. Pearson awards, and six Conn Smythes. Not really, they wouldn't be able to keep up with the athletes these days. Maybe they would have been good on 3 on 3 during their time. Bo Hansen stetcher would wreck them right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Thornton, Iginla, and Malkin should be way ahead of Kane, Kieth, and arguably Toews lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 14 hours ago, shiznak said: Keith has 3 Stanley Cups, 2 Norris, 2 Olympic Golds, and a Conn Smythe. You don't have to like him but I think he's pretty worthy to be in the top 100. Not when a guy like Malkin is not in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 minute ago, apollo said: Not really, they wouldn't be able to keep up with the athletes these days. Maybe they would have been good on 3 on 3 during their time. Bo Hansen stetcher would wreck them right now. Give Bobby is over 60 and Gretzky and Lemieux are into their fifties, I would agree they wouldn't do well against Bo stetch and Hansen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 15 hours ago, xereau said: Bure was the best pure scoring winger I have ever seen play. He could, and often did, make things happen every single shift in a period, in games even. He was that good. In the heart of the trap ridden, clutch and grab dark days. I don't know how, and I don't believe anyone when they say they do, to quantify best ever. He was one a kind, which is probably the most important quality to be considered Top 100. I disagree with several of the picks, but hey, its just a list. This is really the point. With Bure it's not about how much he scored or what he won. He was the most exciting player to ever play in the NHL. Period. I doubt anyone would ague that point. And because he was the most exciting he belongs on any all time great list, I don't know if Lindros made it, but he too was one of a kind, there has never been a more deadly combo of brutal aggression and sublime skill than Lindros. He too was one of a kind, and should be there under the same criteria that qualifies Bure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 18 minutes ago, soshified said: Thornton, Iginla, and Malkin should be way ahead of Kane, Kieth, and arguably Toews lol Yep BS picks It's not a list of the top 100 MOST SUCCESSFUL players, it's supposed to be the BEST If I were Malkin in particular, I'd be pissed On any given day over the last decade you could say Malkin is the best player in the world and I wouldn't have been able to argue with you, this is major disrespect going his way and I'm guessing that he notices it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Vanderhoek Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 16 hours ago, 10pavelbure96 said: And some argue that his number shouldn't be in the rafters... That was the best thing Gillis did 16 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: His number is the ONLY one that should be in the rafters... Until the Sedins retire... his number should be in the rafters no doubt, players should still be allowed to wear these numbers, it should be enough that they hang in the rafters. Drives me crazy to see these numbers all going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 20 minutes ago, gurn said: Give Bobby is over 60 and Gretzky and Lemieux are into their fifties, I would agree they wouldn't do well against Bo stetch and Hansen Mario and Bobby would have been just fine Gretzky would have changed the game to suit him if he arrived in the NHL today, after one week we would be hearing all the talking heads say "Size and speed are over-rated!" Bo, Hansen and Stetch would have been destroyed, and if you put those 6 on the ice tomorrow, my money is still on Bobby, Gretz and Mario. the thing about guys like that is that they even if they are over-matched physically, they refuse to lose, they will find a way to get it done, all three had legendary skill but there is more to them than that, they think like champions. But there would be a couple of small problems if those three arrived in the NHL today. -Orr would have been benched after his first rush down the ice that resulted in an odd-man chance the other way. He would probably be sent down to work on his "Defensive positioning" and labeled selfish, They would say "He needs to use his teammates better and move the puck without giving up position to the other team" Mario would have been Yakopov 2.0 He would have been labeled "selfish" and "lazy" they would say "He needs to learn to use his size to separate the opposition from the puck instead of waiting for his teammates to do it for him" Mario would have been put on the 4th line to ensure he accepted his defensive responsibilities and was willing to "play big" Only "Dirty goals" in front would be considered acceptable. Gretzky would never be brought up. no matter how much he scored in the AHL (300 pts?) the NHL coaches and GM's would say that "He needs to add size and work on his skating" He would be told that "because he lacks the physical tools of an NHL player he must prove he can play bigger than he size would suggest" and thus they would try and make him into a grinding face-off specialist. So there you go, in today's game Orr is Benched, Mario is on the 4th line and Gretz never sees NHL ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrible.dee Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mike Vanderhoek said: his number should be in the rafters no doubt, players should still be allowed to wear these numbers, it should be enough that they hang in the rafters. Drives me crazy to see these numbers all going up. Do you go out of your way to honor someone who: 1. Doesn't like the city 2. Doesn't consider his jersey being retired an honor 3. put him amongst a couple of other guys who were dedicated to charity and making the city of Vancouver a better place, where Bure could have cared less if Vancouver fell into the Pacific and never lifted a finger for charity while he was here. These are points that Trevor made in a more diplomatic way when asked about possibly retiring his number all those years ago. The only reason Bure did it was as a favor to Mike Gillis and to heal the blemish on his public for his future in politics. These were points to consider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 It took them longer than it should have to get him into the HHOF. At least they are giving him the respect he deserves now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Keith, Toews, Kane and maybe even Lemaire have no business being on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseforthenet Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 18 hours ago, Harvey Spector said: His number is the ONLY one that should be in the rafters... Until the Sedins retire... Whew...savage, but pretty much correct. As fans of this team we throw up players who are just not deserving enough. It should be reserved for the best of the best. I would make an argument for Trevor Linden to be there, but that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Spector Posted January 29, 2017 Author Share Posted January 29, 2017 13 minutes ago, Noseforthenet said: Whew...savage, but pretty much correct. As fans of this team we throw up players who are just not deserving enough. It should be reserved for the best of the best. I would make an argument for Trevor Linden to be there, but that's it. Yeah Linden is a maybe for me. I'm 50/50 on him. Pros and cons both ways. As for Smyl and Naslund a big no to both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 3 hours ago, J-23 said: Well Don Cherry said some interesting stuff: Cherry has problems with numbers (eg., number of players on the ice) so.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 16 hours ago, apollo said: Not really, they wouldn't be able to keep up with the athletes these days. Maybe they would have been good on 3 on 3 during their time. Bo Hansen stetcher would wreck them right now. What? Guess you never watched them play. Speed isn't everything and it's not like they didn't play against that just ask Mike Gartner. Howe also would have put most current athletes to shame with his physique. I don't understand why people think that the athletes today are in a different plane of existence compared to those of the past. The seventies and eighties were the hey day of weigh training and nobody could say Orr wasn't built like a truck because he was. Same goes with Shore. And of course Howe who was once tested and was higher than anyone except the world's best boxer at the time. These guys would do just fine in any era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salacious Crumb Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 15 hours ago, Noseforthenet said: Whew...savage, but pretty much correct. As fans of this team we throw up players who are just not deserving enough. It should be reserved for the best of the best. I would make an argument for Trevor Linden to be there, but that's it. It's embarrassing how many retired numbers we have for no cups. 10 & 11 that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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