Team Bagues Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 6 hours ago, hammertime said: Hmm in a season where we lost Edler Tanev Gud for significant periods of time were worried about having too many D??? This is the best case problem to have. Especially considering where we were D wise last year. Need I bring Bart Weber Clendenning to the attention of CDC. Oh man. I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Bagues Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 5 hours ago, canuktravella said: tanev for a winger and late first rounder 6 hours ago, luckylager said: I wonder how many GM's are looking to add a Dman they have to protect? Might be a pretty limited market short of a couple / few teams looking to add depth at TDL for a cup push... I am trying to think of cup teams that need a push on defense? Montreal maybe? Chicago not sure how deep they are? Does Minnesota have cup potential? one last kick for the Rangers??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasmijn Meeuwissen Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 10 hours ago, Frogger009 said: How do people here see the Canucks defense shaking out over the next few years? If this team is to become a contender again, we need a solid D core and right now we have the makings of one, but way too many defensemen. Who are the 6 or 7 we should continue with? in 2 or 3 years, what will this D core look like? Right now we have the following (age in brackets) that have proven or on their way to proving that they belong in the NHL Edler (30) Tanev (27) Gubranson (25) Tryamkin (22) Hutton (23) Stecher (22) Sbisa (27) Juolevi (18) We also have Subban, Pedan and Brisebois in the minors/junior that could pan out. Personally, I think in a couple years our core could be pretty solid like this Tanev Juolevi Hutton Tryamkin Gudbranson Stecher Sbisa? or another to round it out. If our forwards can develop and mature into a solid group with a bonafide first line (hoping Virtanen and Boeser pan out) and with Markstrom/Demko providing solid goal-tending, this team could theoretically be a contender again in a few years. Here's hoping. Where's Biega? Does everyone forget about the bulldog? We need him to play so that he can be an unprotected player. I don't think we have too many defensemen. I'd say we have enough. But no need to trade anyone at this point, especially when we're scratching the playoff surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think the plan is to dump Edler as soon as possible. Yesterday would not be soon enough for me to see him moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 21 hours ago, luckylager said: I wonder how many GM's are looking to add a Dman they have to protect? Might be a pretty limited market short of a couple / few teams looking to add depth at TDL for a cup push... Yzerman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appleboy Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 It is not that we have too many D men. It is the point that we will probably lose one for nothing in expansion. If it was not for expansion we would keep them all. You never have enough D. At the beginning of the year Sbisa was not someone that many would see trade value in. That has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 On 30/01/2017 at 11:04 AM, S'all Good Man said: Outside shot. Why not? If the right Landseskog-ish deal came along why not? I see him as the least likely of the 3 but I don't know if you could brand him as untouchable for a trade. It all depends on the extension negotiations and if they are going well or not. I would say as untouchable as anyone on the roster, minus the NMC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 The most logical move would be to trade Gudbranson. Yes, there is such a thing as "too many D-men" because there's a salary cap. He's going to get paid like a 2nd-pairing D-man to play on the 3rd-pair, and we can't afford that. Trade him at the draft in the summer, even if we get less value than what we gave up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I think we trade/lose one of Edler, Tanev of Sbisa. I'd rather keep Tanev as a calming influence over the kids and ideally Sbisa as well, let Edler go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 If I was the GM I'd be looking at trading Tanev. I love the guy but his value is high and if we get a young expansion protected player for him we won't lose Sbisa for nothing. If not trade Sbisa for as much as you can get. I'd guess a low first or early second from a top team. I can't believe I'd ever say Sbisa was worth a 1st round pick. Sbisa has blossomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 40 minutes ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I think we trade/lose one of Edler, Tanev of Sbisa. I'd rather keep Tanev as a calming influence over the kids and ideally Sbisa as well, let Edler go. Edler would be easy to trade, as many teams would be interested. That's if he didn't have a NTC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 11 minutes ago, messier's_elbow said: If I was the GM I'd be looking at trading Tanev. I love the guy but his value is high and if we get a young expansion protected player for him we won't lose Sbisa for nothing. If not trade Sbisa for as much as you can get. I'd guess a low first or early second from a top team. I can't believe I'd ever say Sbisa was worth a 1st round pick. Sbisa has blossomed. Not a chance Sbisa is worth a 1st round pick. He's still a bottom-pairing D-man, and the only GM that gives up a 1st+ for bottom-pairing D-men is our GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 44 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Not a chance Sbisa is worth a 1st round pick. He's still a bottom-pairing D-man, and the only GM that gives up a 1st+ for bottom-pairing D-men is our GM. Nice story. The bottom pairing D that plays 19 minutes a night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, oldnews said: Nice story. The bottom pairing D that plays 19 minutes a night. Minutes mean nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 minute ago, kanucks25 said: Minutes mean nothing. Whereas your opinion that he's a third pairing D means something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, oldnews said: Whereas your opinion that he's a third pairing D means something. He's put up minimal traditional stats and bad possession numbers his entire career. Every metric out there shows that he's a 3rd-pairing D-man at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 39 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: Minutes mean nothing. That's pretty funny. But if you actually believe it, it's just sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 32 minutes ago, WeneedLumme said: That's pretty funny. But if you actually believe it, it's just sad. Bad players get inexplicably played a lot by coaches all the time. Glass, Girardi, Sbisa - Bieksa pairing two seasons ago, Megna, Chipchura, Prout, Glendening, Ericsson, Rozsival... the list goes on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 1 hour ago, kanucks25 said: He's put up minimal traditional stats and bad possession numbers his entire career. Every metric out there shows that he's a 3rd-pairing D-man at best. false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted February 1, 2017 Share Posted February 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, oldnews said: false. Let me know if you have any evidence that suggests otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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