Mr.53 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 The way I see it, Larsen was brought in to be the temporary bridge player until Stecher or Subban could make the NHL. Well, Stecher is already here, and one of our best defensman, and already is one of our PP specialists, which was supposed to be Larsen's role. You win some, you lose some Benning. Let him go, and play someone else. Or even play Subban. I highly doubt he can perform much worse than Larsen. You win some, you lose some. Count your wins with Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, etc. let Larsen go. The way I see it, you lost out on a 5th rounder gamble for Larsen, but won BIG on a free agent signing for Stecher. So no biggie. Let him go and focus on more future Stechers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mr.53 said: The way I see it, Larsen was brought in to be the temporary bridge player until Stecher or Subban could make the NHL. Well, Stecher is already here, and one of our best defensman, and already is one of our PP specialists, which was supposed to be Larsen's role. You win some, you lose some Benning. Let him go, and play someone else. Or even play Subban. I highly doubt he can perform much worse than Larsen. You win some, you lose some. Count your wins with Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, etc. let Larsen go. The way I see it, you lost out on a 5th rounder gamble for Larsen, but won BIG on a free agent signing for Stecher. So no biggie. Let him go and focus on more future Stechers. Losing a 5th rounder for Larsen is a wash. No biggie. Stecher eclipses all of that. Well said. Hopefully Benning waives him and doesn't give Willie the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nooks Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 7 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: Losing a 5th rounder for Larsen is a wash. No biggie. Stecher eclipses all of that. Well said. Hopefully Benning waives him and doesn't give Willie the option. I agree it doesn't hurt too much but Benning and Co. got Adam Gaudette in the 5th and look how he's turning out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, Nooks said: I agree it doesn't hurt too much but Benning and Co. got Adam Gaudette in the 5th and look how he's turning out. Very good point. Benning has a frickin gift. I just hope he's able to walk from what is clearly not going to work going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlinkas wrister Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 I'm less concerned about Larsen's failure to be an NHL player and more concerned about managements apparent belief that this is a type of defenseman we need (as evidenced by signing Bartkowski and Larsen these last 2 seasons). There's a place in todays NHL for smaller, skilled, more mobile defense but it can't come at the cost of grit or compete level, especially playing in the pacific division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 minute ago, hlinkas wrister said: I'm less concerned about Larsen's failure to be an NHL player and more concerned about managements apparent belief that this is a type of defenseman we need (as evidenced by signing Bartkowski and Larsen these last 2 seasons). There's a place in todays NHL for smaller, skilled, more mobile defense but it can't come at the cost of grit or compete level, especially playing in the pacific division. I wouldn't worry too much. Larsen was signed before Stecher proved himself. I can't see any situation where Benning could justify holding to Larsen. If anything, he's probably just having Willie play him so that he can use him as a cursory piece in a trade, instead of the usual draft pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 ahhhhhh, the unreasonable whipping boy thread, the coat of arms for Canucks fans. Larsen hasn't been nearly as bad as many make him out to be and he's hasn't cost the canucks any wins. he's a #6-8 dman that they are trying to get a read on for next season, and to do that, he needs to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 12 minutes ago, stawns said: ahhhhhh, the unreasonable whipping boy thread, the coat of arms for Canucks fans. Larsen hasn't been nearly as bad as many make him out to be and he's hasn't cost the canucks any wins. he's a #6-8 dman that they are trying to get a read on for next season, and to do that, he needs to play. The read is abundantly clear. He's not even good enough to be a #8 defesneman and absolutely his incompetence in his own zone is costing us games. Having a defenseman who can't play defense makes it that much harder for the 5 NHL defensemen in the lineup to cover up for his atrocious play. If management seriously thinks Larsen belongs in the NHL, let alone on this team next year, we need to implement drug testing in the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 14 minutes ago, King Heffy said: The read is abundantly clear. He's not even good enough to be a #8 defesneman and absolutely his incompetence in his own zone is costing us games. Having a defenseman who can't play defense makes it that much harder for the 5 NHL defensemen in the lineup to cover up for his atrocious play. If management seriously thinks Larsen belongs in the NHL, let alone on this team next year, we need to implement drug testing in the front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b3. Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 So now with Hutton returning, it should mean Larsen is out. But I have a weird paranoid thought of Tram getting put in the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, b3. said: So now with Hutton returning, it should mean Larsen is out. But I have a weird paranoid thought of Tram getting put in the press box. Hutton was skating with Tryamkin at practice today. Larsen was paired with Biega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, b3. said: So now with Hutton returning, it should mean Larsen is out. But I have a weird paranoid thought of Tram getting put in the press box. Larsen was paired with Biega at practice pretty easy to see who the odd men out are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 10 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said: Larsen was paired with Biega at practice pretty easy to see who the odd men out are... How does that look when Gudbranson is back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck73_3 Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 1 minute ago, MattJVD said: How does that look when Gudbranson is back? Depends on if Edler/Tanev is moved for foward help, if not we'll likely see a rotation of Stecher and Tryamkin in and out of the lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 25 minutes ago, MattJVD said: How does that look when Gudbranson is back? What is the timeline of Gudbranson returning? Wasn't it months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Mr.53 said: The way I see it, Larsen was brought in to be the temporary bridge player until Stecher or Subban could make the NHL. Well, Stecher is already here, and one of our best defensman, and already is one of our PP specialists, which was supposed to be Larsen's role. You win some, you lose some Benning. Let him go, and play someone else. Or even play Subban. I highly doubt he can perform much worse than Larsen. You win some, you lose some. Count your wins with Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, etc. let Larsen go. The way I see it, you lost out on a 5th rounder gamble for Larsen, but won BIG on a free agent signing for Stecher. So no biggie. Let him go and focus on more future Stechers. Larsen is miles better, defensively, than Subban. At this point it is highly unlikely that Subban has any kind of NHL career ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, PhillipBlunt said: What is the timeline of Gudbranson returning? Wasn't it months? My understanding is that it could be for the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 Just now, stawns said: My understanding is that it could be for the year Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Industrious1 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Man, just like Sutter last season. Good, reliable player gets traded to the Canucks and gets a major injury early on in the season. Deja vu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattJVD Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Same here. Oh, I didn't realise that, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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