Crabcakes Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Better return for Burrows than I thought Benning could get. Who would have thought a 2nd from a very good year. As long as Dahlen fits Bennings criteria, and he said that he was on his radar last year, I like it. He has the shot, the IQ, is shifty and not afraid of the dirty areas and has a good attitude. If his skating isn't up to NHL standards, send him to Horvat's skating coach. I think the return on Miller would be middling based on the Bishop trade so I expect him to be re-signed. Hopefully year by year and at a better cap hit. Hansen, I would rather keep. Sure they may be able to land picks or prospects for him but who is going to take his place in the top 6? Not Megna! Seriously, if he is moved, then they replace him 1 for 1 with a free agent at a much higher cap hit and whatever benefit cap wise they can garner from moving Burrows and re-signing Miller will get used up. They have Horvat, Gudbranson and Tryamkin to sign this year. So, I would love more picks but moving him creates problems elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guntrix Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hate to be captain obvious but we won't know who won the trade until Dahlen shows he can hang in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC420 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I really like this trade, people complain that Dahlen isnt big enough, jeez people c'mon, if he was 6'4 some folks would complain he isnt fast enough or some crap like that. If the kid had the total package of size, speed and skill I guarantee he wouldnt have been available. Goal scoring is this teams biggest need, not size and Dahlen seems like a goal scorer who can help address that issue. Size is good to compliment goal scoring talents, but if you cant score you will have trouble winning no matter how big or small you are. Dahlen seems like a shoot first player with good speed and puck handling, and he isnt St.Louis small or Schreoder small, Dahlen is 5'11 175 at 19 yrs old, he could still grow an inch or two and has room to put more muscle on his frame as he adjusts to North American hockey. In all I like this trade, its a way better than the whole lotta nothing we got for Hamuis and Vrbata. Dahlen has the talent to be a top 6 player with a good shot and shoot first mentality that could see him become a consistent 20 - 30 goal scorer if developed properly. I dont want to see this kid buried in the minors until he is 24 because he isnt "defensive enough" or some crap like that. Dahlen definitely needs some work but I hope we let the kid take chances and develop offensively instead of trying to turn him into a 2way forward like we try to do with every young player we get. Sad to see Burrows go but the time was now to move on and personally I think the canucks got a lot more for a 35yr old 2way depth forward than we probably deserved. Too soon to really say if we got a good deal but Dahlen definitely has the potential to make this one of the better trades we have made in while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crabcakes Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, guntrix said: Hate to be captain obvious but we won't know who won the trade until Dahlen shows he can hang in the NHL. Bang on. He's a developable asset. That's why Benning wants to sign him and bring him to North America next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, VC420 said: I really like this trade, people complain that Dahlen isnt big enough, jeez people c'mon, if he was 6'4 some folks would complain he isnt fast enough or some crap like that. If the kid had the total package of size, speed and skill I guarantee he wouldnt have been available. Goal scoring is this teams biggest need, not size and Dahlen seems like a goal scorer who can help address that issue. Size is good to compliment goal scoring talents, but if you cant score you will have trouble winning no matter how big or small you are. Dahlen seems like a shoot first player with good speed and puck handling, and he isnt St.Louis small or Schreoder small, Dahlen is 5'11 175 at 19 yrs old, he could still grow an inch or two and has room to put more muscle on his frame as he adjusts to North American hockey. In all I like this trade, its a way better than the whole lotta nothing we got for Hamuis and Vrbata. Dahlen has the talent to be a top 6 player with a good shot and shoot first mentality that could see him become a consistent 20 - 30 goal scorer if developed properly. I dont want to see this kid buried in the minors until he is 24 because he isnt "defensive enough" or some crap like that. Dahlen definitely needs some work but I hope we let the kid take chances and develop offensively instead of trying to turn him into a 2way forward like we try to do with every young player we get. Sad to see Burrows go but the time was now to move on and personally I think the canucks got a lot more for a 35yr old 2way depth forward than we probably deserved. Too soon to really say if we got a good deal but Dahlen definitely has the potential to make this one of the better trades we have made in while. He's a 200ft player, defensively responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammertime Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, DeNiro said: I criticize the moves that I think deserve to be criticized and praise the ones that deserve praising, like this one. If that makes me "doom and gloom" so be it. Fair enough. I guess it would just be nice If a "hall of famer" poster such as yourself didn't rake so much muck regarding or prospects WD JB and the team in general. It tends to fuel a trollathelon among the weaker minds and fly by night fans. Your fully entitled to your opinion as I am mine I guess I just wish it were more positive since you at one time were one of the bigger Homers on the CDC if I say so myself. In a time when far worse moves were being made that handcuffed our team for years. But I guess that is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabiogooseface Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Goodbye dragonslayer. Good luck in Ottawa. Thanks for all the wonderful memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Hattrick for Dahlen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Provost Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I haven't seen it anywhere, but I am shocked we didn't have to retain salary on Burrows. That really leaves us options to take on at bad contract from a cap strapped contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VC420 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 5 minutes ago, stawns said: He's a 200ft player, defensively responsible Yeah i had heard he plays with some heart and grit, he is not a soft swede who is afraid of going to the boards or the dirty areas. Though playing defense in sweden is a whole different beast than playing defense against Connor McDavid and the upper echelon of NHL talent. Still, I like the kid, but as I said I just hope we give him fair chances instead of burying him the Minors in favor of guys like Chaput and Megna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I dunno why people are talking about his skating being an issue... he looks fine to me: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pavel_Bure 10 Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Came back from work and saw this. I'm going to miss you Burr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 2 minutes ago, VC420 said: Yeah i had heard he plays with some heart and grit, he is not a soft swede who is afraid of going to the boards or the dirty areas. Though playing defense in sweden is a whole different beast than playing defense against Connor McDavid and the upper echelon of NHL talent. Still, I like the kid, but as I said I just hope we give him fair chances instead of burying him the Minors in favor of guys like Chaput and Megna. I'm excited for Utica next season, as they will be getting a good crop of young guys who will the chance to grow togetger and, hopefully, carry that chemistry to the big club in 2-3 seasons. I hope people understand that that's probably how long we'll be waiting for the rebuild to pay dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frail Granny Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 For all the frustration towards Benning the last year, anybody on here has to be thrilled with this trade. This is also a credit to Burrows' play this season, as he was able to drive his value up higher than anybody could have expected. Most people would have not lost any sleep had he been bought out last off season. "At least this opens up a spot for our kids" we would have said. Did anybody else notice that the return in the trade wasn't announced until page 14? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReggieBush Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Look what our good friend Patrick O'Sucklivan had to say about this trade. YOU'RE TRASH O'SULLIVAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 1 minute ago, Frail Granny said: For all the frustration towards Benning the last year, anybody on here has to be thrilled with this trade. This is also a credit to Burrows' play this season, as he was able to drive his value up higher than anybody could have expected. Most people would have not lost any sleep had he been bought out in the off season. "At least this opens up a spot for our kids" we would have said. Did anybody else notice that the return in the trade wasn't announced until page 14? Wouldn't have needed to buy him out, he was a pending UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frail Granny Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Just now, DeNiro said: Wouldn't have needed to buy him out, he was a pending UFA. I meant last off season. Should have clarified that. That was the talk going into last off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 6 minutes ago, HKSR said: I dunno why people are talking about his skating being an issue... he looks fine to me: You can tell this kid loves scoring goals, he's got some fire in his belly. I could see him and Horvat playing well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Sens allowing 3 powerplay goals against Tampa so far. This is why they need Burrows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Even in his departure, Burrows is still unselfishly giving everything he has to this organization. A true Canuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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