Jump to content
The Official Site of the Vancouver Canucks
Canucks Community

Jonathan Dahlén | C/LW


Mathew Barzal

Recommended Posts

Is the level of Allsvenskan back to where it was pre-expansion (*)?

 

I was surprised to see that Friesen is a PPG player in Allsvenskan (27pts in 26 games).  His best season in the AHL was in Utica and he was 0.5 PPG.  Last season he had 12 points in 76 games for the Chicago Wolves.


 

Pastrnak was 0.75 PPG in Allsvenskan (before expansion) but was immediately above PPG in the AHL (in part to him also developing).  Production has gone in the opposite direction for Friesen who is now quite a bit more productive in Allsvenskan than in the AHL.  

 

Cederholm was playing 18:45 for AIK last season.  It's 4th in TOI with their most used D at 19:40.  They seem to dress 7Ds.  He got sent to the ECHL to start the season but has been recalled mid-November.  

 

(*) The SHL expanded for the 2015/16 season - going from 12 to 14 teams while Allsvenskan stayed at 14.  Allsvenskan is an open league at the top with the SHL, but also at the bottom with their 3rd tier league.  Like every season they went through promotion/relegation rounds but with two more teams making the cut.  They moved two teams at the top and replaced them with two teams at the bottom.   With two additional teams it opened up more opportunities for the better Allsvenskan players to find a team in the SHL instead of staying in Allsvenskan.

 

Edited by mll
Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, mll said:

Is the level of Allsvenskan back to where it was pre-expansion (*)?

 

I was surprised to see that Friesen is a PPG player in Allsvenskan (27pts in 26 games).  His best season in the AHL was in Utica and he was 0.5 PPG.  Last season he had 12 points in 76 games for the Chicago Wolves.


 

Pastrnak was 0.75 PPG in Allsvenskan (before expansion) but was immediately above PPG in the AHL (in part to him also developing).  Production has gone in the opposite direction for Friesen who is now quite a bit more productive in Allsvenskan than in the AHL.  

 

Cederholm was playing 18:45 for AIK last season.  It's 4th in TOI with their most used D at 19:40.  They seem to dress 7Ds.  He got sent to the ECHL to start the season but has been recalled mid-November.  

 

(*) The SHL expanded for the 2015/16 season - going from 12 to 14 teams while Allsvenskan stayed at 14.  Allsvenskan is an open league at the top with the SHL, but also at the bottom with their 3rd tier league.  Like every season they went through promotion/relegation rounds but with two more teams making the cut.  They moved two teams at the top and replaced them with two teams at the bottom.   With two additional teams it opened up more opportunities for the better Allsvenskan players to find a team in the SHL instead of staying in Allsvenskan.

 

Pay in both leagues?  

Link to comment
Share on other sites

40 minutes ago, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

Dahlén with a goal and a primary assist today as Timrå leads 2-1 going into the third period against Vita Hästen.

 

He’s two thirds of the way through game 20 of his season and he has 24 points (11 goals and 13 assists).

Trying to make up for that secondary assist, I see...

  • Cheers 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 2017-12-14 at 9:40 AM, SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME said:

It’s a little more complicated but I’ll try to explain. Unfortunately, Wikipedia hasn’t updated the qualification rules and still lists the format from 2014 on some pages.

 

But basically, there are 14 SHL teams and 14 HockeyAllsvenskan teams. The bottom two SHL teams are forced to play in the SHL qualifiers.

 

The top two (regular season) HockeyAllsvenskan teams play in the HockeyAllsvenskan Finals, a best of five series, with the winner advancing to the SHL qualifiers. The Finals winner then plays a best of seven series against the 14th ranked SHL team. The winner of that best of seven series then advances to the next SHL season and the series loser is demoted to HockeyAllsvenskan.

 

The loser from the HockeyAllsvenskan Finals (the best of five series between the top two HockeyAllsvenskan teams) plays a best of three series against the winner of the HockeyAllsvenskan Playoffs (a round robin tournament between the HockeyAllsvenskan teams ranked 3-8). The winning team (of the best of three) then plays a best of seven series against the 13th ranked SHL team. The winner of that series advances to the SHL next season and the loser goes to HockeyAllsvenskan.

 

About as clear as mud?

Wow!!! 

 

That sounds much more exciting then what we have in the North American leagues.  

 

Edmonton would’ve demoted to ECHL long time ago.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

22 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

What a lunatic! 

 

Guy comes out of nowhere and barrels to the net.

Ya I love the intensity. Good sign that he can process so well at that speed. Imagine Raymond with the ability to actually create offence with his speed. 

  • Cheers 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

37 minutes ago, cyoung said:

Ya I love the intensity. Good sign that he can process so well at that speed. Imagine Raymond with the ability to actually create offence with his speed. 

Can't wait for him to get here and show Goldobin how to play with intensity, battle and pursuit.

  • Upvote 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

23 hours ago, cyoung said:

Ya I love the intensity. Good sign that he can process so well at that speed. Imagine Raymond with the ability to actually create offence with his speed. 

Raymond did create offence with his speed the last time I checked. 251 points in 542 NHL games. Almost a point every 2 games. About the same as Matt Cullen and better than Marcus Foligno or Alex Burrows.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

8 hours ago, alfstonker said:

Raymond did create offence with his speed the last time I checked. 251 points in 542 NHL games. Almost a point every 2 games. About the same as Matt Cullen and better than Marcus Foligno or Alex Burrows.

My point was he could have been a better player if he could process the game as fast as he could play it. Lol 

 

Don't get me wrong I loved Raymond. 

  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 hours ago, alfstonker said:

Raymond did create offence with his speed the last time I checked. 251 points in 542 NHL games. Almost a point every 2 games. About the same as Matt Cullen and better than Marcus Foligno or Alex Burrows.

I think Raymond's big chance to excel was when he was on a line with Kesler and Grabner - that was an amazing, lightning fast line that drove other teams nuts the few times they were allowed to play together.  For some reason, Vigneault didn't seem to care for them as a unit.  Don't know why, they were always breaking up the ice with the puck and blasting around the defensemen on the other team.

  • Cheers 1
  • Upvote 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, JaboVancouver said:

I completely disagree. Let the kid continue to develop overseas. There is no quick fix or savior for the injuries this team is going through. Let's keep the prospects away from the adversity here and bring him up in a more stable situation, not out of desperation.

Agree completely!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
×
×
  • Create New...