kenhodgejr Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 I think guys like Goldobin and Dahlen will replace Vanek and Eriksson next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RetroCanuck Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 36 minutes ago, kenhodgejr said: I think guys like Goldobin and Dahlen will replace Vanek and Eriksson next season Sorry to burst your bubble but we still have four more years of Eriksson after this year...honestly if I were Benning Id trade him for whatever someone would give me or Id knock off 60%salary and ask for a good prospect. Even though Eriksson's had a bad year and a bit he still holds some value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, RetroCanuck said: Sorry to burst your bubble but we still have four more years of Eriksson after this year...honestly if I were Benning Id trade him for whatever someone would give me or Id knock off 60%salary and ask for a good prospect. Even though Eriksson's had a bad year and a bit he still holds some value. Eriksson's contact is quite tradeable the last 2 years actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, RetroCanuck said: Sorry to burst your bubble but we still have four more years of Eriksson after this year...honestly if I were Benning Id trade him for whatever someone would give me or Id knock off 60%salary and ask for a good prospect. Even though Eriksson's had a bad year and a bit he still holds some value. Worst come to worst, we can buy him out at some point. He's our worst headache, contract-wise, and that's really not that bad of a situation to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Nuckin Kingsly Posted October 30, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 goal and 2 apples for nikolay today. Up to 4g 6a 10pts in 7 games! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Im glad he's not being callled up. This is his first true development year with the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 On 26/10/2017 at 2:13 PM, Gollumpus said: Not really the point I was making, but okay. Goldobin was likely playing against lesser opposition than the Sedins, he was getting less ice time per game (if I recall), and (going back to my original point) he played in only a handful of games. If you believe your comparison can stand one of 82 games vs only 12 then fine. Rodin played only 3 games with the Canucks last year, and he was a +1. I guess that makes him better than Goldobin? Horvat was a -7 last season, so hemust be a liability. And Granlund was a -19, so he really must suck, right? regards, G. Rodin's issue is being hurt so much of the time he has been - we don't know how good he is, and you can't play a guy that is injured. Another goal and two assists for Goldobin tonight. The sample size grows, but that is not really the test, the test is how he has been playing - having watched the Utica games, that would be very well and better defensively and in puck pursuit. Fortunately for the Sedins, they have a kid propping them up - it would have been a waste to have Granlund with them - his talents are better used elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 4:00 AM, Ray_Cathode said: Rodin's issue is being hurt so much of the time he has been - we don't know how good he is, and you can't play a guy that is injured. Another goal and two assists for Goldobin tonight. The sample size grows, but that is not really the test, the test is how he has been playing - having watched the Utica games, that would be very well and better defensively and in puck pursuit. Fortunately for the Sedins, they have a kid propping them up - it would have been a waste to have Granlund with them - his talents are better used elsewhere. I acknowledge this, that Granlund is a valuable checker for this team. This being said, he showed last season that he can also be a very good offensive player. The thought around him between seasons, is that he would be a good fit with the Sedins. He could supply them with the puck and then head to the front of the net, but also that he was fast enough to be able to look after the defensive responsibilities should his line lose possession, and he was a second center. It could be argued that him playing on a different line (most of the time) means that the overall team scoring goes down; Granlund's goal scoring capability is reduced with his heavier defensive responsibilities, and that the Sedin line scores less with Virtanen (who continues to improve). regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray_Cathode Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 9 hours ago, Gollumpus said: I acknowledge this, that Granlund is a valuable checker for this team. This being said, he showed last season that he can also be a very good offensive player. The thought around him between seasons, is that he would be a good fit with the Sedins. He could supply them with the puck and then head to the front of the net, but also that he was fast enough to be able to look after the defensive responsibilities should his line lose possession, and he was a second center. It could be argued that him playing on a different line (most of the time) means that the overall team scoring goes down; Granlund's goal scoring capability is reduced with his heavier defensive responsibilities, and that the Sedin line scores less with Virtanen (who continues to improve). regards, G. I can't argue with Granlund being good for the Sedins, he is, but does he have a higher value elsewhere? I believe he does, and apparently, so does Green - whose is the opinion that matters, of course - and, if results are the proof, then I'd have to say that Green's inspiration was inspired. it is often the case that when guys are given defensive roles, but also the minutes that go with checking the other team's top unit, that their offence picks up after a while (I am reminded of Kesler here) - I think that will be the case with Granlund, and their line does play a lot of their defence in the offensive zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 2 hours ago, Ray_Cathode said: I can't argue with Granlund being good for the Sedins, he is, but does he have a higher value elsewhere? I believe he does, and apparently, so does Green - whose is the opinion that matters, of course - and, if results are the proof, then I'd have to say that Green's inspiration was inspired. it is often the case that when guys are given defensive roles, but also the minutes that go with checking the other team's top unit, that their offence picks up after a while (I am reminded of Kesler here) - I think that will be the case with Granlund, and their line does play a lot of their defence in the offensive zone. Yup. As I mentioned, the Granlund talk to which I was referring, was based on his last year's results with the Sedin's and that there weren't any reasonable alternatives at that time. This talk was during the summer when there was as yet no Vanek on board, some were suggesting Sutter as the RW, and Virtanen had yet to show a capacity to fit with the Sedin's, or that he was even going to make the team for this year. So while Green has viable options now, they were still somewhat unclear just a few months ago. regards, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck_In_Paradise Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He's quite an exciting prospect, hopefully, he continues this upward trajectory and grows his confidence! Next year will be a big year for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) A player like Goldobin, with that much scoring prowess, has got to make the NHL eventually. Edited November 1, 2017 by Alexandre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Alexandre said: A player like Goldobin, with that much scoring prowess, has got to make the NHL eventually. A lot of outstanding offensive talents can't crack the nhl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, cyoung said: A lot of outstanding offensive talents can't crack the nhl. Yes, that is true. I trust Benning's ability to identify potential NHLers so Goldobin has to make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, Alexandre said: Yes, that is true. I trust Benning's ability to identify potential NHLers so Goldobin has to make it. I'm hopeful. If Sedins move on next year there will be a big opportunity for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexandre Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 hour ago, cyoung said: I'm hopeful. If Sedins move on next year there will be a big opportunity for him. Yes. An opportunity is important, specially for a Goldobin type of player. He looks like he needs a top six role or other offensive players around him to be effective. I think there's a good chance he succeeds with us because of his offensive ability and appears to be the type of Russian player that is motivated to make a career in the NHL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLapierreAwesomeFace Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 He was just on Instagram Live and someone commented "don't go to KHL". Goldobin chuckled and said anything can happen, that's life. Someone asked if he keeps in contact with Tryamkin, Goldy said yes. Someone tells him to tell Tryamkin to come back, Goldy said "hahaha don't think so, not for 2-3 years" (or something like that) Cool to see him interacting with fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfstonker Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 3 minutes ago, MaxLapierreAwesomeFace said: He was just on Instagram Live and someone commented "don't go to KHL". Goldobin chuckled and said anything can happen, that's life. Someone asked if he keeps in contact with Tryamkin, Goldy said yes. Someone tells him to tell Tryamkin to come back, Goldy said "hahaha don't think so, not for 2-3 years" (or something like that) Cool to see him interacting with fans All he needs is a Canadian GF and he will be ours for the whole of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyard Dog Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 12 minutes ago, MaxLapierreAwesomeFace said: He was just on Instagram Live and someone commented "don't go to KHL". Goldobin chuckled and said anything can happen, that's life. Someone asked if he keeps in contact with Tryamkin, Goldy said yes. Someone tells him to tell Tryamkin to come back, Goldy said "hahaha don't think so, not for 2-3 years" (or something like that) Cool to see him interacting with fans Yeah it seems like he has a good head on his shoulders which is a nice thing to have on a Russian player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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