VegasCanuck Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 7:01 AM, peaches5 said: I disagree. The Sedin's are done after this year unless they start playing a hell of a lot better. They have not looked good this year at all. They show some glimpses of their old selves but they're mainly a liability out there. Nothing wrong with how they are playing, they are still effective when deployed appropriately. They aren't being relied upon to generate 70% of our offense this year, and their playing time is being largely adjusted based on who we are playing against and the speed of the opposing lineup. Decision to resign them and whether they want to push for another season will probably remain with them, as it should. If they feel they can still add something to this team, they are a good influence on the young players, and I think players like Virtanen are having a good influence on them and creating a situation where they can still succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 11/7/2017 at 9:37 AM, aGENT said: Just don't see it happening. This year's the retirement tour IMO. Time will tell, but I think the decision will be left up to them. Right now, when you put them out there with Virtanen, they look better than they have in a couple of years. His speed and their passing skills make a good combination, and hopefully some other good habits rub off on Jake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 (edited) 30 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: Time will tell, but I think the decision will be left up to them. Right now, when you put them out there with Virtanen, they look better than they have in a couple of years. His speed and their passing skills make a good combination, and hopefully some other good habits rub off on Jake. His speed certainly helps them out but I personally don't see them as a terribly good fit. They've created almost nothing on the cycle with him on their line as he's a North/South player and they're very much East/West. They've had to adjust their games to creating off the rush to suit that. And while they've managed some chances and even goals (see: last night) off of that, it should be fairly obvious to anyone watching, it's an ill fit. It's also pretty clear how the team wants to play the game moving forward. Fast, attacking, speed, hard, counter punching.... these aren't exactly Sedin traits, Gordie bless them. Nobody's denying their obvious leadership etc attributes but they're holding the team back from playing how management and coaching would prefer to play. There's also the issue of not particularly needing them to fill roster spots next year. We've already arguably got 'too many' forwards this year and there's a pretty good chance one or two more kids (including namesake of this thread) will be ready next year plus the possibility of signing Kane this summer. Not a lot of room at the inn and it's frankly, time to move on. Edited November 8, 2017 by aGENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Podz92 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 On 2017-11-07 at 8:01 AM, peaches5 said: I disagree. The Sedin's are done after this year unless they start playing a hell of a lot better. They have not looked good this year at all. They show some glimpses of their old selves but they're mainly a liability out there. I strongly suspect unless they pick things up significantly this year then they'll probably retire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 2 hours ago, aGENT said: His speed certainly helps them out but I personally don't see them as a terribly good fit. They've created almost nothing on the cycle with him on their line as he's a North/South player and they're very much East/West. They've had to adjust their games to creating off the rush to suit that. And while they've managed some chances and even goals (see: last night) off of that, it should be fairly obvious to anyone watching, it's an ill fit. It's also pretty clear how the team wants to play the game moving forward. Fast, attacking, speed, hard, counter punching.... these aren't exactly Sedin traits, Gordie bless them. Nobody's denying their obvious leadership etc attributes but they're holding the team back from playing how management and coaching would prefer to play. There's also the issue of not particularly needing them to fill roster spots next year. We've already arguably got 'too many' forwards this year and there's a pretty good chance one or two more kids (including namesake of this thread) will be ready next year plus the possibility of signing Kane this summer. Not a lot of room at the inn and it's frankly, time to move on. My personal take on it is, that this is an adjustment that they have to make to stay in the league and be effective. They have never been overly fast skaters, but they are strong skaters. I think this combination is still evolving and that they are still learning how to best benefit from Virtanen's speed and adapting their game to it. Time will tell on whether this works or not. As for the other kids coming in, they have to force their way onto the lineup to be there. As I said in another thread, I could be completely wrong, but what I get from Benning and Linden's management style and their respect for Daniel and Henrik, they will let them decide if they want to do another year or call it a career. I think this is partially because Benning really likes to have that veteran experience in the lineup. If they do retire, I expect that Benning will go shopping for another experienced player or two on July 1st to fill the gap. As for Goldobin, I thought his most effective time with the Canucks was when he was playing with the Sedins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 2017-11-08 at 5:26 PM, AlwaysACanuckFan said: silky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 hope he gets the next call up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Trent Cull really giving Goldobin some confidence as he has been relying heavily on him for the start of the season. 1st unit PP and PK mins and now called upon to bring leadership 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wshdrvvn Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 18 hours ago, CRAZY_4_NAZZY said: Trent Cull really giving Goldobin some confidence as he has been relying heavily on him for the start of the season. 1st unit PP and PK mins and now called upon to bring leadership At first glance it seems like a way of getting him more involved in team dynamics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldoescobar Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 Needs quite a bit more work away from the puck. Small steps 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harvey Specter Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Loving the communication between GM Ryan Johnson, his coaching staff and Goldy. Great to see and hear! Edited November 15, 2017 by Harvey Specter Tweet didn't embed properly the first time around 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 If there ever was a player that looked like me when I was that age it's the Goblin. For that alone I am cheering for him to succeed with the Nucks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRAZY_4_NAZZY Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rocket Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 apples today. I believe he is over a point per game now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 (edited) Edited November 24, 2017 by aGENT 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrago Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Good to hear his head is in the right place. I'm sure that it is tough but I'm sure if he continues to stay motivated his time will come shortly. He does seem to have a lot of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 The Professor sounding like quite the salesman -- has embraced the agent role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeneedLumme Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Hutton Wink said: The Professor sounding like quite the salesman -- has embraced the agent role. Or maybe he is being completely honest and is just sharing his knowledge with us. I guess we'll see when Goldy gets a call up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 4 hours ago, aGENT said: “preaching patience” “has to wait his turn” “we have to be patient” “respect the process” Feel like this interview is trying to tell us something, but I’m not sure what it is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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