aGENT Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 6 minutes ago, grumpworsley said: I wouldn't expect the team to make the playoffs next season, however if it is/was as much of a f***up as this season. The team will likely have to start all over with new management and coaches, as I don't see the current management team keeping their jobs if the team does not progress further than where they are at now. I think it will depend a lot on how prospects are looking at their respective levels/leagues more than how the Canucks themselves do. How bright does the future look basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Did anyone hear if Alfstonker was also fired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
189lb enforcers? Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: I rather have players that are good at hockey. I don't doubt that character, leadership and intangibles are important but being good at hockey needs to be prioritized. You can find "character guys" for cheap through free-agency. I wasn't a fan of the trade, but I like Guddy. You're right, no matter how tough it is to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, 189lb enforcers? said: You're ferreting in and out of holes. Guddy's defensive stats are as bad as his offensive stats. On paper, he's not a great defender. On paper, he generates very little, except goals against, IIRC. Lets call a spade a spade here. I like Guddy, a lot, but the stats don't lie. They do when you don't consider context and only look at then through a very reductive lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soshified Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 When a WD firing thread becomes a thread about management and GMJB taking their time to start "rebuilding" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Lock said: Honestly, I decided months ago to reserve judgement on Guddy until we actually see him play a full season and healthy. I don't see it being fair otherwise. We need some toughness on D...ya Hutton dropped the gloves but ...nah....Tryamkin will fight when pushed and that's it unless Biega's in. Guddy needs a full season's audience to get a good grasp on what he brings and even at that I suspect he becomes more valuable in the playoffs. ...scoring goals....not gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, J.R. said: I think it will depend a lot on how prospects are looking at their respective levels/leagues more than how the Canucks themselves do. How bright does the future look basically. I miss the days when our #1 prospect was a top ten prospect in the league (Cody Hodgson....) AND he looked good initially in a Canuck uniform. Things are starting to look good on the farm now though (it'll just take a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kanucks25 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 4 minutes ago, J.R. said: They do when you don't consider context and only look at then through a very reductive lens. I'd love to see what kind of context magically makes Gudbranson look good. Entertain me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Vultures on here. Not even after a couple of hours since cutting ties with WD and you guys are after the next head. Chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, NewbieCanuckFan said: I miss the days when our #1 prospect was a top ten prospect in the league (Cody Hodgson....) AND he looked good initially in a Canuck uniform. Things are starting to look good on the farm now though (it'll just take a while). Yup, when we start having Dahlen, Guadette, this years top 5 pick etc all start showing up things are going to start looking rosier. Never mind any surprises from the likes of Zhukenov et al. In the immortal words of Mike Gillis: 'It's a process'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 2 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: I'd love to see what kind of context magically makes Gudbranson look good. Entertain me. You've ignored it this long from numerous other posters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Willie's final move a the Canucks coach .... put it out a plug line of Megna, Chaput and Sutter 3 guys who should not be on our roster next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beary Sweet Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Really hope who ever TL and co hire will be able to lift the team into the playoffs. This is a young team yes but they need to get some winning mentality instilled so the team will be ready for a deeper run in a couple years or so. I love the youth we have already in the lineup and making an impact like Hutty, Tram, Stecher, Bo, Baer, Granny, and Boeser who came in the final games of the season. I think if everything goes accordingly and no injuries occur and a more physical and offensive system is plugged in, this team can make some serious noise next season. We can't forget Benning gave Willie a crapshoot of a roster to work with so it's not all Willie's fault. He did what he could with the players he had. A full year of Guddy, Dorsett and Boeser and this team is a playoff team no doubt. Not to mention if Marky finally takes the reins and impresses with a heavy workload, then the team will surprise most. Adding Goldy and Dahlen will only help the team become much more of a threat and its going to be interesting what the coach does with Goldy as he had a little something going with the Sedins. Hope the coach keeps him with them as it will only help Goldy take his game into the next level and a good farewell tour to the Sedins if they become their former selves again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentSam Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 .. And Spector, making mountains out of molehills. Apparently,. The sky is falling here boys and girls.. Canucks going down same dark path as hapless Oilers of before http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/canucks-going-dark-path-hapless-oilers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: You've ignored it this long from numerous other posters... I think it's JD Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Just now, PhillipBlunt said: I think it's JD Burke. That would explain a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeBrew Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 18 minutes ago, kanucks25 said: I never said it's about points. He's not good at defending, he's not good at moving the puck, he's not good at offense. He's not particularly good at anything except being a character guy. He's been below average at pretty much everything you need to do as a D-man for his entire career. He's performed like a bottom-pairing D-man for his entire career because he has a bottom-pairing skill-set. And it's extremely rare for players to "break out" at 25 years-old and 350~ games of pro experience, especially when they don't show the hockey IQ and puck skills that are required for a higher ceiling. You haven't been watching hockey that long have you? It is a known fact that defensemen in the NHL often break out in their later 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuck2288 Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Why would we ever retain Jarvis? Our special teams were horrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 Green and the greenies = winning last half of the season and on upward..... Baer / Horvat / Boeser Granlund / (top 4 pick) / Rodin Sedins / Goldy Gaunce / Sutter / Boucher Dorsett / Shore or Chaput or Molino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted April 10, 2017 Share Posted April 10, 2017 1 minute ago, J.R. said: That would explain a lot. Totally. The tone, and the air of entitlement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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