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After reading all 62 pages of this thread all I have left to say -  thanks Willie  for 3 years service, and thanx to Lidster and Kearns as well

I hope this isn't a set back but a move forward - time will tell.

Gonna be a long summer

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On 4/10/2017 at 5:25 PM, HomeBrew said:

Your argument is solely based on your own opinion of the evaluation of what you think of Gudbranson, which is incorrect and unsubstantiated, and your peculiar affixation on this "300 games" things which is irrelevant. We are not even expecting him to break like Souray, so how is he even an example to prove your point? We are hoping that he becomes a well-rounded top 4 defensive defenseman. For defensemen to come into this league in their draft +2 year is a RARITY. If you want a more direct comparison of what to expect from Gudbranson, look towards someone like Willie Mitchell - also someone who did not play a significant role in the NHL until into his later 20s. It is not called "magic" there buddy, its called progressing and maturing. It what happens in the NHL. At worst we could expect him to round out his game like Sbiza and become a serviceable top 4 defensemen that will keep other teams honest. 

 

Are you advocating that we just get rid of him because of your lack of foresight? 

Incorrect.

 

Willie Mitchell made an immediate impact with Minnesota in his first year there, at 24. When 26, he had an impressive playoffs, and he shut down favoured Vancouver in that frustrating (for us) series.

 

That said, Mitchell is a great comparable of what Gudbranson could be. But he's a long way from realizing that.

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9 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

Lets hire another rookie coach, that worked out real well. :lol:

 

Wouldn't want an experienced coach or anything like that...

You should put more work into your defending Gudbranson.

You're doing a horrible job.  "intimidation".  is that the best you can do?  weak.   try to step up.

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58 minutes ago, Chip Kelly said:

Guess I won't have to.... Acquilini heard the noise and saw what Willie D being announced back next year would torpedo ticket sales...:lol:

 

I love how  guys like you attack anything that is not pro Canuck. Willie deserves most of the blame and Linden and Benning deserve some of it too. Nobody knows how much blame Acquilini deserves...

 

Whatever though. It's completely false because I said it right? 

Look its not hard to understand, we had 3 rookies and Willie was the low guy on the totem pole. They have all made mistakes but I think Benning has redeemed himself and I am excited going forward to see who Linden and Benning pick for coach and what moves are made in the off season as well as draft day. That will determine who if anyone is next on the chopping block.

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On 4/10/2017 at 5:51 PM, oldnews said:

But, but he's right to the top of the list Barry!

Ha! And he wonz de Stanleys cupz!

 

Sutter's career is entering the Keenan zone.

 

A last ditch desperate management group might throw him a 3 year deal this summer. (Glad to hear Benning and Linden say they have no problems hiring a younger, more inexperienced coach.)

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37 minutes ago, Davathor said:

 

Sutter is statistically one of the worst PP regulars in the league. We traded a promising young forward for Okbranson (if you didn't notice, we have a weak forward group). Eriksson was a HAIL MARY signing to try to return the twins to glory. Granlund was a steal.

 

still waiting to hear how those moves were rebuilding? Sure looks like desperately trying to pump another year or two of playoff revenue out of the Sedins. 

Well, outside of Eriksson who was signed to address a current lack of scoring, hopefully by scoring (and he does have time to do that very thing), the team has gotten younger. 

 

McCann was moved from a team which needed scoring, to a another team which needed scoring. And he didn't help them this season as the Panters scored something like 30 fewer goals than the year before. True, he might in future seasons, or he might not. I wish him the all the best. Arguably Gudbranson has helped  the Canucks in that with the depleted squad they have, they only had two fewer goals scored against them (if you didn't notice, we had a weak defensive group, arguably still do).

 

Sutter was picked up to address defensive play and the PK, not the PP. I see him as filling the same role that Malhotra when he was signed here. Good at face-offs (54.3%), a good skater, blocks shots, is a positive on give-aways/take-aways. As I mentioned, he wasn't brought here as a solution to the lack of scoring.

 

Goldobin (21) and Dahlen (20) are young. Gudbranson is young (25). Granlund is young (23). Baertschi is young (24). And then there's the team's draft picks: Horvat, Boeser, Tryamkin, Stecher, Hutton and Demko. 

 

This does look like a rebuild to me and not (as was suggested elsewhere), a natural turn over of players. I find it interesting that so many posters here cannot accept that a rebuild is/was going on, merely because the team has not said that this is what they are doing.

 

38 minutes ago, Davathor said:

 

 If you want to keep regurgitating those moves as part of a rebuild I'm afraid I'm done argueing. Can't make a horse drink right?

Yeah, and I've got another idiom, There's no use in beating a dead horse, especially if he wouldn't take a drink to save his own life. :)

 

                                                                regards,  G.

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4 minutes ago, oldnews said:

You should put more work into your defending Gudbranson.

You're doing a horrible job.  "intimidation".  is that the best you can do?  weak.   try to step up.

To be fair, Gudbranson isn't a good hockey player. Not much to argue there.

 

He'd be a 95 OVR rating in toughness and pushback and scrums and stuff.

 

Cus that stuff wins you hockey games...

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1 minute ago, Barry_Wilkins said:

Ha! And he wonz de Stanleys cupz!

 

Sutter's career is entering the Keenan zone.

 

A last ditch desperate management group might throw him a 3 year deal this summer. (Glad to hear Benning and Linden say they have no problems hiring a younger, more inexperienced coach.)

Yeah.  He was a great hire - for LA - at the time.

 

He might be a good fit somewhere like Winnipeg tbh - they're a heavy club, they've underachieving year after year - they're not really in the early phases of a rebuild but are overdue to emerge.  They're used to a hardass - but one that hasn't really progressed that group.

 

Here?  About the only thing that fits is the fact we have Brandon.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Gollumpus said:

 

 I find it interesting that so many posters here cannot accept that a rebuild is/was going on, merely because the team has not said that this is what they are doing.

 

 

 

                                                                regards,  G.

blind sheep I say 

 

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4 minutes ago, oldnews said:

You should put more work into your defending Gudbranson.

You're doing a horrible job.  "intimidation".  is that the best you can do?  weak.   try to step up.

To be fair, Gudbranson isn't a good hockey player. Not much to argue there.

 

He'd be a 95 OVR rating in toughness and pushback and scrums and stuff.

 

Cus that stuff wins you hockey games...

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3 minutes ago, JohnTavares said:

To be fair, Gudbranson isn't a good hockey player. Not much to argue there.

 

He'd be a 95 OVR rating in toughness and pushback and scrums and stuff.

 

Cus that stuff wins you hockey games...

Did you watch the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals? Toughness, pushback and goaltending won it.

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Sitter would be a interesting hire.

 

Our next coach is probably going to be a transitional guy with a limited shelf life.  Linden and Benning even said in their pressure today they were looking for the best guy to work with today's situation and not someone to grow and learn with the group.

 

Sutter is kind of the short shelf life kind of coach anyways.  His Schtick gets old after 2-3 years and we would probably move to a different coach then anyways.

 

Having said all that, I would far rather a coach who is going to create an entertaining offensive system so we are at least entertained while we lose over the next while.

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4 hours ago, CeeBee51 said:

If I could give you 10+ I would::D

Thankyou. I just don't get what people have to complain about when it comes to JB. I Think he is gonna go nuclear this offseason. and make a few more gms look stupid

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On 4/10/2017 at 5:49 PM, RetroCanuck said:

This is totally off subject but let me just say that tony Gallagher is a dolt. Guy seems to have no brains left.

It has to be remembered that Gallagher is transparently biased.

 

He was in love with Gillis (they were, maybe still are, buddies), but has generally hated management types for decades. So when Gillis was canned, Gallagher was just waiting for his chance to dump on Benning. It must be a little uncomfortable, even for him, though, since he can't really separate Teflon/former player Linden from his hatred of Benning.

 

The list of contradictions is actually -- to use a word he loves -- "amusing", in that, e.g., he bemoans the collapse of the Sedins, without squaring that up, in any way, with the Canucks ultimate fortunes the past two years, vis-a-vis Benning.

 

He has zero credibility.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, JohnTavares said:

Fans need to stop living in the past.

 

Toews, Kopitar, Crosby, Malkin

 

These players win you cups, not Gudbranson.

You heard it here first folks. We should not of traded for Gudbranson, we should of traded for Toews, Kopitar, Crosby or Malkin... :blink:

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