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DonLever Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 54 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: This election was ABC Anyone But Christy ........ How long before the Liberal Party turns on Christy... ? Is there is another election in the next few years , will the Liberals kick her out as leader before the election happens ? 100% agree. You know the writing is on the wall when the most popular slogan during the election was ABC, (Anyone But Clark). It was not "Anyone but Liberals". You know she would have been kicked out if she had lost this election but is only hanging on now because she got a minority . The knives would out like the 2013 election when a "801" group was about turf her out had she lost. Or course it is a thin line whether one wins or loses a election. The NDP has changed leader many times and it is time for the Liberals to jettison Clark if they want to stop their slow death march. There is no way Clark is going to win the next election. The Liberals lost this election because unhappy Liberals either sat home and did not bother to vote or voted for the Greens instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 12 hours ago, DonLever said: 100% agree. You know the writing is on the wall when the most popular slogan during the election was ABC, (Anyone But Clark). It was not "Anyone but Liberals". You know she would have been kicked out if she had lost this election but is only hanging on now because she got a minority . The knives would out like the 2013 election when a "801" group was about turf her out had she lost. Or course it is a thin line whether one wins or loses a election. The NDP has changed leader many times and it is time for the Liberals to jettison Clark if they want to stop their slow death march. There is no way Clark is going to win the next election. The Liberals lost this election because unhappy Liberals either sat home and did not bother to vote or voted for the Greens instead. I agree but the question is if we have a new election in 18 months. Will the Liberal let Christy lead them going in to the election or will she be asked to step down before the election..... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 16 hours ago, DonLever said: Highly doubtful. Chinese-Canadian turnout for voting is abysmal. Richmond Center has the biggest population of Chinese in BC and in 2013, Richmond Center has the lowest turnout of 43% in the province. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/bc-group-aims-to-raise-voter-turnout-with-chinese-immigrants/article34862161/ The ones from Mainland China are worst in voting because they don't understand the role of voting, due to lack of democracy in China. Look at Coquitlam Burke Mountain. One of the closet swing ridings. Coquitlam in a recent census, about 10% of the population reported as Chinese speaking. Half of the 10%, or 5% of the population spoke Mandarin, the official language of China. I hardly expect 5% of the population to make much of a factor in absentee votes, especially a group with low voter turnout. Which is why I said unsubstantiated. Although I wouldn't actually be surprised if many living abroad and only spending a few short months a year in BC would be the deciding factors in a riding or two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 15 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: This election was ABC Anyone But Christy ........ How long before the Liberal Party turns on Christy... ? Is there is another election in the next few years , will the Liberals kick her out as leader before the election happens ? I don't think they necessarily need to turn on her. I know people don't like her all that much, but she is pretty smart. She can probably see the writing on the wall. Politicians, especially Premiers, have a shelf life. The BC Liberal party should start working on getting a new leader and some re-branding before they have to go to the polls again. Better to ride a wave of popularity into the election rather than being dogged by some scandal, or by having your leader forced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 On 5/13/2017 at 1:35 PM, goalie13 said: I don't think they necessarily need to turn on her. I know people don't like her all that much, but she is pretty smart. She can probably see the writing on the wall. Politicians, especially Premiers, have a shelf life. The BC Liberal party should start working on getting a new leader and some re-branding before they have to go to the polls again. Better to ride a wave of popularity into the election rather than being dogged by some scandal, or by having your leader forced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I think a big factor in why BC politics is off is the lack of vote splitting on the right. A good chunk of the current Liberal vote historically has been Conservative/SoCred, etc. I'd imagine with a Conservative option, the Liberals would lose a significant chunk in the Province. I think in a weird way BC needs RW party. Both because those voters need representing and for the overall system to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Canada Hockey Place said: I think a big factor in why BC politics is off is the lack of vote splitting on the right. A good chunk of the current Liberal vote historically has been Conservative/SoCred, etc. I'd imagine with a Conservative option, the Liberals would lose a significant chunk in the Province. I think in a weird way BC needs RW party. Both because those voters need representing and for the overall system to work. 100 % Agree. If i was in charge of the NDP , i would donate 1 million dollars to the BC conservative party's election campaign. That would be NDP money well spent. If the BC conservative could take 10 - 20 % of the BC vote, it would be a NDP majority for sure. If i was in charge of the NDP i would all over trying to rebuild the BC Conservatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 From CBC: Quote What is an absentee ballot? Any ballot not cast at a voter's assigned voting place is considered an absentee ballot. This includes voting at district electoral offices, advance voting places and voting by mail. All votes cast in this manner will be tallied between May 22 and 24. "Between now and then, our district officers will be reviewing all those envelopes, determining where they need to be sent, sending them back to the voter's district of residence and doing all of their reconciliation processes on everything reported already," Watson said. There were about 159,000 absentee ballots cast in the 2013 election Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Weaver is on West Block right now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Christy has lost the province despite spending more in election Ads than any other provincial party in Canada. 60 % of voters voted her out. Time for CC to resign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 20 hours ago, Canada Hockey Place said: I think a big factor in why BC politics is off is the lack of vote splitting on the right. A good chunk of the current Liberal vote historically has been Conservative/SoCred, etc. I'd imagine with a Conservative option, the Liberals would lose a significant chunk in the Province. I think in a weird way BC needs RW party. Both because those voters need representing and for the overall system to work. There is a conservative party in B.C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canada Hockey Place Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: There is a conservative party in B.C. Yes I know I live here. A party without a leader is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 Just now, Canada Hockey Place said: Yes I know I live here. A party without a leader is not an option. Yup but they have had a leader before and still didn't win a seat. B.C seems happy with B.C liberals and the Ndp. The greens may have possibly made a breakthrough. It's funny they hold the balance of power yet didn't gain enough seats for official party status. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 First thing Weaver asks for is a 25,000 dollar raise for himself and 10,000 for each of the Green MLA's Sounds like yes Weaver would work well with Christy..... similar values.... Guess we should not have expected anything different...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 On 5/11/2017 at 8:22 AM, 189lb enforcers? said: 1500 pages on the USA election. 51 on BC's. To be fair the US elections are much, much longer then BC's and there's been a long 100 days of controversy after controversy that pisses off any rational human being keeping the thread active daily. The news never stops. BC is much calmer. The biggest controversy was Clark not letting a voter speak why she would never vote for her and instead dismissed her outright. Compare that to the latest news of the US president firing the FBI director overseeing an investigation into the president's campaign potentially colluding with Russia in order to win an election. There's just no comparison and being a close neighbor what happens there also effects us immensely. Thank f***ing god though I live in BC. I hate Clark with a passion for destroying the province I love, but man oh man I'll take her over Trump any day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 19 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: First thing Weaver asks for is a 25,000 dollar raise for himself and 10,000 for each of the Green MLA's Sounds like yes Weaver would work well with Christy..... similar values.... Guess we should not have expected anything different...... That's not true... what he wants is banning big money and party status for the greens. Raises come with party status; but there's far more importance in them gaining official party status than the raise he'll get. Making 26k more a year for Andrew shouldn't be too significant... I'm sure he made more before he was in politics. “The two things that are totally non-negotiable is banning big money and party status.” Technically, a party needs four elected MLAs to be officially recognized in the legislature. With that title, comes extra research staff, and more questions in question period. There’s also a not-insignificant salary bump of $26,470 for Weaver, on top of his base salary of $105,881.83, and another $10,588 for his two MLAs. Granting the Greens official party status will require a change to the B.C. Constitution Act. But the Liberals and NDP are willing to do it. And Weaver knows that too. http://vancouversun.com/news/politics/b-c-election-2017-andrew-weaver-sets-demands-begins-negotiations-on-minority-government Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Quote Following the win, the Green Party of Canada quickly issued a statement that said the Green breakthrough in B.C. — where they received 16 per cent of the popular vote, double the last election — shows that people want action on climate change and electoral reform. In an interview, federal Green Leader Elizabeth May called the breakthrough an extremely significant moment in history, dispelling the idea that people will not, or cannot, vote Green because it is a wasted vote that will keep the Liberals in power. “B.C. Greens finally defeated fear,” she said. http://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/b-c-green-breakthrough-remarkable-given-voting-system-could-serve-as-spark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 BC GREEN MLA's have now become a traditional BC political party- THE first thing they do is ask for a Raise in Salary ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Too funny - in the Van Sun today... “Christy Clark is perceived in Surrey as someone who comes to Vaisakhi parades and smiles, but doesn’t do anything,” Purewal said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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