aGENT Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 16 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: BC GREEN MLA's have now become a traditional BC political party- THE first thing they do is ask for a Raise in Salary ???? No, the first thing they ask for is a stop to corporate/union donations. The second was official party status which comes with more resources and more time in parliament...and yes, raises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 4 hours ago, J.R. said: No, the first thing they ask for is a stop to corporate/union donations. The second was official party status which comes with more resources and more time in parliament...and yes, raises. This. Also... none of this will mean anything if Libs win Comox. I'm not feeling too comfortable tbh. I have a terrible feeling Liberals will flip Comox and get majority gov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, apollo said: This. Also... none of this will mean anything if Libs win Comox. I'm not feeling too comfortable tbh. I have a terrible feeling Liberals will flip Comox and get majority gov. I thought they needed 45 seats for majority? Aren't they sitting at 43? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastal.view Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 7 minutes ago, J.R. said: I thought they needed 45 seats for majority? Aren't they sitting at 43? there are 87 seats 44 is a majority libs currently have 43, 41 to ndp, 3 to greens... which is why greens hold the balance of power presently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, coastal.view said: there are 87 seats 44 is a majority libs currently have 43, 41 to ndp, 3 to greens... which is why greens hold the balance of power presently Thanks. Must have had the numbers mixed up. Not sure why I thought it was 45.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, J.R. said: I thought they needed 45 seats for majority? Aren't they sitting at 43? 44. But even if that one riding flips, and there's no guarantee on that, a majority that thin means she's going to have to take the Greens seriously. One change in a seat and we're right back at this spot. I could see any number of things occurring from people retiring, health issues, someone crosses the floor, some dumb scandal, etc. She has to figure out a way to work with Weaver on a vote by vote basis. I think he's going to force her to end corp donations for supporting the throne speech e.g., to allow the next parliament to begin. She might wait until next year tho to call the next session tho so this may take a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, J.R. said: Not sure why I thought it was 45.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 minute ago, S'all Good Man said: Not enough of it perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 On 5/16/2017 at 2:54 PM, J.R. said: Thanks. Must have had the numbers mixed up. Not sure why I thought it was 45.... 44 is not a functional majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: 44 is not a functional majority. Illness , one BC Fiberal goes Indie.... a retirement... or family issues.. Not enough votes to cover it.... also the fact CC never even shows up in Victoria too much etc.... Government will fall. We will have a new election in 18 months no matter what happens in Comox... I don't get this another election in 18 months thing at all... how does that work exactly and who decides? Also, you're saying even if comox flips, we're still safe for a minority gov? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, apollo said: I don't get this another election in 18 months thing at all... how does that work exactly and who decides? Also, you're saying even if comox flips, we're still safe for a minority gov? If Comox flips the Fiberals may get a 1 seat majority... But a one seat Majority is not enough of a majority for a government to rule...... Fibs will have times when MLA's are not in Victoria for votes due to a variety of reasons...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 3 hours ago, kingofsurrey said: If Comox flips the Fiberals may get a 1 seat majority... But a one seat Majority is not enough of a majority for a government to rule...... Fibs will have times when MLA's are not in Victoria for votes due to a variety of reasons...... Oooh I see. So what does the new election part in 18 months mean? How is that decided? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 05/13/2017 at 6:34 AM, DonLever said: 100% agree. You know the writing is on the wall when the most popular slogan during the election was ABC, (Anyone But Clark). It was not "Anyone but Liberals". You know she would have been kicked out if she had lost this election but is only hanging on now because she got a minority . The knives would out like the 2013 election when a "801" group was about turf her out had she lost. Or course it is a thin line whether one wins or loses a election. The NDP has changed leader many times and it is time for the Liberals to jettison Clark if they want to stop their slow death march. There is no way Clark is going to win the next election. The Liberals lost this election because unhappy Liberals either sat home and did not bother to vote or voted for the Greens instead. I'm thinking it was more a case of the disillusioned who voted for a dreaming liar named Horgan. God forbid even in a possible back to the polls vote in a year or so he even gets a sniff as Bc Premier.What a joke it would be especially on his supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 12 hours ago, apollo said: Oooh I see. So what does the new election part in 18 months mean? How is that decided? Generally minority governments break down sooner than later when the parties come to an impasse that nobody is willing to give on. Then you get a vote of non confidence (of the Liberals) and if the NDP/Greens can't form a working coalition (which would be equally tenuous even if they do), legislature will be dissolved and a new election called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/14/2017 at 0:18 AM, kingofsurrey said: 100 % Agree. If i was in charge of the NDP , i would donate 1 million dollars to the BC conservative party's election campaign. That would be NDP money well spent. If the BC conservative could take 10 - 20 % of the BC vote, it would be a NDP majority for sure. If i was in charge of the NDP i would all over trying to rebuild the BC Conservatives. That would be highly unethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/14/2017 at 10:21 AM, kingofsurrey said: Christy has lost the province despite spending more in election Ads than any other provincial party in Canada. 60 % of voters voted her out. Time for CC to resign. What's it to you? You're not in the liberal party...... John Horgan lost the election despite having just about everything on his side. Time for the NDP to disband as an organization...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, J.R. said: Generally minority governments break down sooner than later when the parties come to an impasse that nobody is willing to give on. Then you get a vote of non confidence (of the Liberals) and if the NDP/Greens can't form a working coalition (which would be equally tenuous even if they do), legislature will be dissolved and a new election called. The best way to describe BC right now is "unstable". That's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/17/2017 at 11:14 AM, ronthecivil said: That would be highly unethical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 On 5/17/2017 at 11:19 AM, ronthecivil said: The best way to describe BC right now is "unstable". That's not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 55 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: What is not good is a government that sells out honest BC citizens to Off Shore investors.... What is not good is a government that does not care about Public Education , put BC into massive DEBT, don't care about health care or the Environment either...... BC Liberals have ruined this province. That's my biggest problem with the Libs. The damages are done though... we may never see affordable housing. Perhaps things might cool down, but I still don't see greater vancouver becoming "affordable" ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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