ronthecivil Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 24 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: If it it a BC Fiberal / Green alliance it will be bye bye Economy. BC Liberals have already killed the BC economy and ruined this province with record DEBT. HIGHEST CHILD poverty in Canada here in BC. The only jobs the BC liberals support are McJobs that are part time no benefits jobs that do not pay a liveable wage. BC has one of the, if not the best, economy in Canada, which overall, in a crappy world, is doing pretty good. Construction jobs that come along with the big projects the greens and NDP want to kill are hardly McJobs. Not sure what the NDP want to provide other than an increase to their buddies in the public sector unions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, stuman491 said: I would say that something like the recent tax that was just imposed should have been put in a long time ago. My wife and I bring home just over 100K a year and cannot afford anything but a condo. Throw the cost of child care in the mix and we cannot afford to pay a mortgage on most condo's that would fit our family. It is a governments job to look out for its citizens (the ones who pay taxes). We will be leaving BC this year so we can live somewhere our salary allows us to buy a home, so we have a backyard for our kids. A lot of young professionals who have not yet gotten into the housing market are in the same boat. I would say that is an issue the government is for sure responsible for. It definitely would have been a nice source of income at the very least, if it was put in long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-DLC- Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 5 hours ago, ronthecivil said: Are you saying we shouldn't let them buy places? That would impact demand. But that's a federal decision, and one with some serious potential unintended consequences. Remember, politicians of every stripe (even greens and NDP) are generally keen on foreign investment. It's the stated goal of all those international trips..... Are the developers getting all they want? Are you saying there's too much development? Reducing it would cost a lot of jobs, and put further upward pressure on prices, not to mention lower government revenue, which is kind of needed for those health and education things. If developers had their way, there wouldn't even be a thing such as zoning. Heck, there's still single family houses next to 30 year old skytrain stations in Vancouver! You don't think developers haven't though of sticking a few towers in those, and many other locations, that have been turned down?!? Look at it in a big picture way...if development is driving out "residents" who are displaced because investors are gobbling up property and leaving it vacant, is that a good thing? You want ghost towns where no one is in place and supporting the local businesses? It's headed that way in many areas (look at Coal Harbour and some areas of Richmond). We should NOT let speculators run rampant. Much of the stuff being developed is unnecessary...it's a pyramid type scheme of flipping and a concentrated effort TO drive prices up...not to buy to live in homes. So that needs to be stopped. Of course the developers would love no zoning...I was at a meeting last night that suggested that very thing. Because now that this tax is in place developers and investors are scooping up ALR land and building mansions to avoid the tax. So we now are fighting to reel in the developers who are putting 25,000 sq ft "farmhouses" on farmland to attract investors. It was compromised and set at just under 11,000 sq ft. last night. Which is still ridiculous, but I guess it's something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuman491 Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, debluvscanucks said: Look at it in a big picture way...if development is driving out "residents" who are displaced because investors are gobbling up property and leaving it vacant, is that a good thing? You want ghost towns where no one is in place and supporting the local businesses? It's headed that way in many areas (look at Coal Harbour and some areas of Richmond). We should NOT let speculators run rampant. Much of the stuff being developed is unnecessary...it's a pyramid type scheme of flipping and a concentrated effort TO drive prices up...not to buy to live in homes. So yes, that needs to be stopped. Of course the developers would love no zoning...I was at a meeting last night that suggested that very thing. Because now that his tax is in place developers and investors are scooping up ALR land and building mansions to avoid the tax. In Lake Country (Okanagan) 14% (that's the number I heard on the radio) of the homes are vacant. These homes are used for less than a month a year as vacation properties. They drive up the price of real estate considerably in the area. Making it harder for first time home owners to get into the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 On 5/18/2017 at 1:44 PM, ronthecivil said: BC has one of the, if not the best, economy in Canada, which overall, in a crappy world, is doing pretty good. Construction jobs that come along with the big projects the greens and NDP want to kill are hardly McJobs. Very cute but simply not true. Your scare tactic posts are so retro 1990's...... People simply do not believe that BS anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, debluvscanucks said: Look at it in a big picture way...if development is driving out "residents" who are displaced because investors are gobbling up property and leaving it vacant, is that a good thing? You want ghost towns where no one is in place and supporting the local businesses? It's headed that way in many areas (look at Coal Harbour and some areas of Richmond). We should NOT let speculators run rampant. Much of the stuff being developed is unnecessary...it's a pyramid type scheme of flipping and a concentrated effort TO drive prices up...not to buy to live in homes. So that needs to be stopped. Of course the developers would love no zoning...I was at a meeting last night that suggested that very thing. Because now that this tax is in place developers and investors are scooping up ALR land and building mansions to avoid the tax. So we now are fighting to reel in the developers who are putting 25,000 sq ft "farmhouses" on farmland to attract investors. It was compromised and set at just under 11,000 sq ft. last night. Which is still ridiculous, but I guess it's something. I totally support an idea such as tripling property taxes if you don't happen to live in the place you own. If you live in the place you own, no effect. If you happen to own the place next door as well, and rent it out, the taxes you pay will count as an expense, and reduce your income taxes you pay off of the rental income. If you don't rent it out, it's just an expense, so more incentive to rent it out. If you happen to be a speculator that lives off shore and keeps it vacant, you pay a lot of property tax. If you happen to be a speculator that lives off shore and lies about it, well bad news, if we catch you, we will tax all of your income as though you live there! That's what I would think of as a good plan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthecivil Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 1 hour ago, kingofsurrey said: Very cute but simply not true. Your scare tactic posts are so retro 1990's...... People simply do not believe that BS anymore.... BC Fiberals have destroyed BC and sold our province to Off SHORE investors..... B.C. has Canada’s worst-performing economy for younger generations: report http://globalnews.ca/news/3307975/generation-squeeze-bc-economy/ B.C.’s GDP may have grown by 2.5 per cent since the 1980s. But earnings in that time have dropped faster for young people in B.C. than any other province, it noted. Median full-time earnings for 25- to 34-year-olds in 2014, the last year for which data was available, were down by over $8,400 from the period Meanwhile, median earnings for this age group across Canada fell by just over $4,000. Young people are screwed not just provincially, not just nationally, but globally. No matter who you elect, that problem is going to continue. It's a much deeper issue than whatever sinister plan you think the BC liberals have been doing. Be it things like the huge amount of debt every level of government virtually everywhere has run up, or the ridiculous and unsustainable pensions the older generation is getting that that younger generation has to fund but will never see a cent from, to the inevitable rising in retirement age, to the unsustainable rise in property prices that are a lottery to the old and a brick wall to the young are not exactly easy things to fix. Well, if you ran on a platform of raising the retirement age now, slashing public sector union pensions (to at least the level they are funded through what they paid in, plus the excellent returns the pension plans have made, which still isn't enough to pay what's promised), combined with balanced budgets, curbs and taxes to stop speculation, higher interest rates to spur demand, a huge increase in residential construction by firing the local mayors and running a pro development, such it up NIMBYs kind of way, then you could totally change things for young people. But good luck getting elected with a platform like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtzfan Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 Elections B.C. says it will update its website at 10 a.m., noon, 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. starting Monday and during the three-day final count. It will also alert voters through its social media channels when a final result is known in a riding. The Courtenay-Comox riding will likely take longer to tally, because of the initial recount, and the final results there are not expected to be known Monday. http://vancouversun.com/news/politics/b-c-election-results-2017-crucial-vote-counting-starts-monday Recount Tomorrow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 20 hours ago, kurtzfan said: Elections B.C. says it will update its website at 10 a.m., noon, 2 p.m. and 5 p.m. starting Monday and during the three-day final count. It will also alert voters through its social media channels when a final result is known in a riding. The Courtenay-Comox riding will likely take longer to tally, because of the initial recount, and the final results there are not expected to be known Monday. http://vancouversun.com/news/politics/b-c-election-results-2017-crucial-vote-counting-starts-monday Recount Tomorrow! This is huge... well spell the fate of our province. Will be devastated if Liberals somehow capture majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sapper Posted May 22, 2017 Share Posted May 22, 2017 On 05/18/2017 at 8:55 AM, ronthecivil said: Thanks for the rhetoric! BC Provincial Politics. We have a economically ignorant set of left wing parties. One thinks only of the environment with little else stated. One is stuck in the 30s with the union vs. management mentality, with the morally corrupt goal of sitting on both sides of the negation table with the already powerful, and extremely costly, public sector unions. Both are completely out of touch with the way of life outside of the island/lower mainland. As they like to say, their the part of the province that pays the taxes, and the city is where people spend them. Handy tip! Ignore this sentiment at your peril, BC green party, and BC NDP. Completely and totally false. The ndp of the 90s left a billion dollar surplus. Much like the sad fact that many seniors fall victim to online scams such as the Microsoft help desk, and others .....many BC voters have fallen victim to the bc rightwing propaganda machine. It's ok to say you don't like the ndp, but your comments are based on non factual propaganda regarding the ndp. And unions are not the power the righties claim. I was union under the ndp in the nighties and we got zero increases most years. What we did get was a level of job security as the ndp didn't push privatization. Under the liberals we got a 15% wage rollback then raises bigger than the ndp time. Now I make the same as I did in 2003 once more but a constant threat of being contracted out. But by all means continue union bashing. And slot of bc construction is non bc workers. The economy is working for those that can import workers to keep profits up ... sadly it economically ruins the economy. Things like minimum wage are kept artificially lower when companies can by pass local and provincial workers. No , it's our right wing supporters in bc that have a messed up believe that the trickle down economic theory is working.... It's not. Giving the top bigger portions of the cookie in the hopes more crumbs faĺl is ludicrous. But we as a province have handed the libs 4 more years and the opportunity to increase the debt and the gap between those working and those st the top. It is fact that the bc liberals have grown the debt nearly 10 times higher than the 90s ndp. The libs plan of just get another credit card is scary. The real debate we need is how to tame our run away debt. We do ne3d to pay it and it's not fair to leave it for our kids. Yes I'm talking about the bc liberals debt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 On Thu May 18 2017 at 3:11 PM, ronthecivil said: I totally support an idea such as tripling property taxes if you don't happen to live in the place you own. If you live in the place you own, no effect. If you happen to own the place next door as well, and rent it out, the taxes you pay will count as an expense, and reduce your income taxes you pay off of the rental income. If you don't rent it out, it's just an expense, so more incentive to rent it out. If you happen to be a speculator that lives off shore and keeps it vacant, you pay a lot of property tax. If you happen to be a speculator that lives off shore and lies about it, well bad news, if we catch you, we will tax all of your income as though you live there! That's what I would think of as a good plan! IMO, if you lie about your status, as either a speculator and/or non-citizen, and are evading taxes then the penalties should very harsh. Making them pay what they should have anyway is no deterrent to malfeasance. And I mean seizing property and revoking landed immigrant status, potnetially jail. Barring them from entering and conducting business in this country. This is one case where I support a second class standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 Curious, vote counting/recounts are occurring now and the NDP has shrunk the vote lead by the BC Libs thus far by over 3000 total votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted May 23, 2017 Author Share Posted May 23, 2017 11 hours ago, Warhippy said: Curious, vote counting/recounts are occurring now and the NDP has shrunk the vote lead by the BC Libs thus far by over 3000 total votes. well the seats won't change so now its down to absentee ballots: http://www.cknw.com/2017/05/22/final-b-c-government-to-be-decided-by-ongoing-recount-and-absentee-vote-tallies/ crazy, and kind of fascinating. If it all holds which is likely, i think its going to force some very positive changes and we'll probably be back voting in 18 months or so. Weaver will vote with the gov't on the budget, he has to, otherwise he can't get an "wins" for the Greens. Just glomming onto the NDP does nothing to grow the Green party so I think this situation will survive one budget anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLever Posted May 23, 2017 Share Posted May 23, 2017 The latest count in Courtney Comox has Liberal Jim Benniger with 3 vote lead over NDP opponent with 1900 absentee ballots to count. http://www.cknw.com/2017/05/23/day-two-of-absentee-ballots-count-across-b-c-ridings/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 2 hours ago, DonLever said: The latest count in Courtney Comox has Liberal Jim Benniger with 3 vote lead over NDP opponent with 1900 absentee ballots to count. http://www.cknw.com/2017/05/23/day-two-of-absentee-ballots-count-across-b-c-ridings/ Possibly a majority government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 On 5/23/2017 at 7:40 PM, Ryan Strome said: Possibly a majority government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 NDP back up by 100 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 1 minute ago, StealthNuck said: NDP back up by 100 now. In Comox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SN- Posted May 24, 2017 Share Posted May 24, 2017 49 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: In Comox? Yup: http://electionsbcenr.blob.core.windows.net/electionsbcenr/ed/GE-2017-05-09_Courtenay-Comox.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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