SabreFan1 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 7 hours ago, Bitter Melon said: The great thing about GMs who deliberately throw their team into the gutter like Murray did is that they very rarely get to see the fruits of their toil. The problem with Murray wasn't the tank. He did a great job with that. The problem came with the multiple rookie-GM mistakes that he was making rebuilding the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBackup Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 3 hours ago, SabreFan1 said: The problem with Murray wasn't the tank. He did a great job with that. The problem came with the multiple rookie-GM mistakes that he was making rebuilding the team. I'm not saying he did the tank poorly, I'm just saying it's amusing when GMs deliberately orchestrate tank jobs rarely get to see the turn around from their tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 4, 2017 Author Share Posted May 4, 2017 Just now, Bitter Melon said: I'm not saying he did the tank poorly, I'm just saying it's amusing when GMs deliberately orchestrate tank jobs rarely get to see the turn around from their tank. I got what you're saying and I agree. If Murray could have avoided the rookie GM mistakes that he made (there were several) afterwards, he'd still be at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 The minute Eichel started running his mouth he should have been given a 1 way ticket to the minors. Entitled little puke. Pegula didn't stand behind his management. It will make it harder to hire quality people in the future, especially top tier managers and coaches who get opportunities pretty much every offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 10, 2017 Author Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 5/9/2017 at 5:20 PM, Mustapha said: The minute Eichel started running his mouth he should have been given a 1 way ticket to the minors. Entitled little puke. Pegula didn't stand behind his management. It will make it harder to hire quality people in the future, especially top tier managers and coaches who get opportunities pretty much every offseason. What makes you think that the Eichel story is true. Everybody having anything to do with it has denied it happened. Even Eichel was upset that it was being said. During the whole season, reporters both (inter)nationally and locally were trying to pin multiple players being upset with Bylsma. In the end it looks like they decided to choose Eichel. Murray was a relatively rookie GM hired by a former president of hockey operations who made mistakes that the Sabres ownership wasn't willing to overlook. Both he and the coach that he hired were shown the door after a disappointing season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 On 5/3/2017 at 11:21 AM, Alflives said: Who took this picture, and why? My goodness! Where is the concept of common decency these days, where one feels it's alright to take photos of people, without permission? I actually find whomever to take this photo to be a disgusting little weasel, without scruples. Pictures in bars years ago were not allowed period. Also windows giving a view into a liquor establishment from the street was taboo. We live in the big brother digital age now. Virtually everyone packs a camera equipped cell phone today...no place to hide...not even in a bar. And it'll only get worse over time. Wait until they chip you at birth and mandate it must be renewed every few years for the rest of your life. The technology is already in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shotgun Posted May 10, 2017 Share Posted May 10, 2017 Notice they have their backs turned to yet another talking head on yet another afternoon sports show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 11, 2017 Author Share Posted May 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Johnny Shotgun said: Pictures in bars years ago were not allowed period. Also windows giving a view into a liquor establishment from the street was taboo. We live in the big brother digital age now. Virtually everyone packs a camera equipped cell phone today...no place to hide...not even in a bar. And it'll only get worse over time. Wait until they chip you at birth and mandate it must be renewed every few years for the rest of your life. The technology is already in place. Photography was never banned in bars here. It just wasn't a place where people ever took them. We live in an age where people believe that the world needs to know where they are and what they are thinking at all times (Twitter and Instagram) so taking pictures in a place where people used to go to get away from the rest of the world is now socially acceptable. Another self serving oddity that the Millennial generation has thrust upon the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 On 10/05/2017 at 4:29 PM, SabreFan1 said: What makes you think that the Eichel story is true. Everybody having anything to do with it has denied it happened. Even Eichel was upset that it was being said. During the whole season, reporters both (inter)nationally and locally were trying to pin multiple players being upset with Bylsma. In the end it looks like they decided to choose Eichel. Murray was a relatively rookie GM hired by a former president of hockey operations who made mistakes that the Sabres ownership wasn't willing to overlook. Both he and the coach that he hired were shown the door after a disappointing season. Eichel is tied to that team's future and his agent knows it. They are going to use that leverage to their advantage. Second, if Tim Murray's 'rookie' resume is to blame and the Sabres are really looking for fresh blood, why hire Botterill? He's even less experienced than Murray was. Murray was scouting in the NHL before Botterill was even playing pro hockey FFS. The whole thing stinks, and now that Eichel and his agent know they can manipulate Pegula, they will continue to put their influence on him, because that owner has no goddamn idea what he was doing and was lost the minute Regier left the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 26 minutes ago, Mustapha said: Second, if Tim Murray's 'rookie' resume is to blame and the Sabres are really looking for fresh blood, why hire Botterill? He's even less experienced than Murray was. Murray was scouting in the NHL before Botterill was even playing pro hockey FFS. The whole thing stinks, and now that Eichel and his agent know they can manipulate Pegula, they will continue to put their influence on him, because that owner has no goddamn idea what he was doing and was lost the minute Regier left the Sabres. The non-bolded is just your conjecture and guess work. Also, Regier was fired. He's so toxicly bad that no other team will hire him and his name never comes up in GM opening discussions. He didn't even last in Phoenix as an AGM with his now-fired frmr. GM friend. As for the bolded, I mean this as nicely as possible, you're talking out of your as*: http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/sabres-make-a-brilliant-gm-hire-in-jason-botterill Here's a part of the article: Quote Botterill retired in his late 20s because of concussion problems. He completed his MBA at the University of Michigan. He developed a strong business mind and became the Penguins’ salary-cap specialist when he joined their front office in 2007-08. He’s worked with Penguins GMs Ray Shero and then Jim Rutherford over the past decade, helping them manage the cap and juggle the big salaries of their stars while still finding room to make aggressive trades year after year, particularly around deadline season. He’s had as big a hand in the club’s AHL development as anyone in the organization and, since he arrived in Wilkes Barre/Scranton, the club has gone 366-207-43. Botterill’s strengths cater to what the Buffalo Sabres need most. Their scuffling farm club, the Rochester Americans, hasn’t made the playoffs for three seasons. The Americans’ imprint on the NHL roster isn’t significant, either. The only hidden-gem forward to emerge after significant AHL development time is Marcus Foligno, drafted 104th in 2009, and the only impact blueliner is Jake McCabe, drafted 44th in 2012. Rasmus Ristolainen doesn't count in this context as he was a high-upside first-round pick from the start, and his NHL arrival wasn’t really the product of development. The Sabres saw Hudson Fasching, Alex Nylander, Justin Bailey and Nick Baptiste come up from the minors for cups of coffee this season, but none has made a sizable splash just yet. The bottom line is the Sabres’ best players have been acquired via trade, free agency or can’t-miss high draft slots, including Ristolainen, Jack Eichel and Sam Reinhart. The franchise has struggled to harvest impact NHLers otherwise. The Penguins have insulated their stars with Sheary, Rust, Guentzel, Scott Wilson, Tom Kuhnhackl, and Brian Dumoulin, all of whom had long-term development time on a successful AHL club. The Botterill hire thus bodes well for overhauling Buffalo’s minor-league development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (Can't recall where I heard/read this but....) The GMs of twp Canadian franchises walk into a bar. The Leafs' Lou Lam and the Flames' Brad Treliving. The bartender: "The first round is on me." "But there will be no second round for either of you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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